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Lauren Hopkins wanted to follow Laurie and jazzy for the last year and a half. Initially Maggie said yes then no because flo gymnastics paid her to do a feature. She said doing a project with Lauren might upset Marta. Funny because flo lost their USAG media credential and Lauren is running facts for the NBC broadcast team in addition to the gymternet press credential. Maggie also convinced Laurie to follow her when she left the gym Laurie was at. The ranch documentary where she tells Laurie she has to get 3-4 more tenth so in SV on bars to make an Olympic team, Haney is shrewd, not a kind person but shrewd and cunning. She looks like she thinks she’s smarter than everyone else. I honestly believe she thought doing this would get Laurie an AA spot. It was a last ditch effort. And then Marta just pulled the we will replace you because we are the great and powerful oz card.
That was so crazy I couldn’t even follow it. She seems to be a great coach but between her shooter-girl look and the amount of tissues she’s been through this week definitely an odd bird on the coaching scene.
I guess if you are arrested for selling alcohol to minors and were possibly involved in a riot in which a man was killed, you aren’t very employable; hence, start your own business coaching gymnastics
Is Maggie the blonde coach? How old is she? I kind of have to admire any last ditch efforts against Marta. Laurie has won a lot of attention and people will probably not like the fact Gabby gets to go for AA, but not Laurie who was 2nd at Trials. Marta is probably already telling Tim and Nastia what to say like that night 2 of trials when it was so obvious that they were told to spin the story of how Gabby was needed on this team.
Blech.
Yes, the blonde. The one who looks like stereotypical Jersey shore trash (sorry, I’m a bitch but I can’t help but think that every time I see her). She was in college from 1996-2000 so I’m going to assume that she’s about 38.
Is anyone watching the coverage right now? I’m hoping to see China but right now I’ve only been seeing Belgian floor. It was nice to see Chuso on beam too!
They showed a bunch of China earlier like between 9 and 9:30. Once it’s over you should be able to replay it and at least watched them. They looked decent a few issues on floor though
Thanks for the update- I think my stream is caught up with yours now. So glad Chinese haven’t done bars yet- I got up at 5:45 am so I could watch them. NBC won’t show them in their broadcast coverage
I noticed that she stopped and rested before each pass which is supposed to be deductions. Don’t know how consistently the judges apply it but this may be part of the stricter scoring if they are actually enforcing it
That was super unprofessional on their part. Speculation that the judges were scoring too far apart and had to fix it lol good grief- it’s the olympics people. get it together
Craziness. Go seda! She made me proud today. As for cata scratching vault and bars, I wonder what was up with that? She clearly had routines, but who knows what happened. Conspiracy theorists are saying she waited until the alternate deadline to decide only doing beam and floor lol. Sooooo bars scoring anyone? Doesn’t it seem a little bit sketch? How were chunsong and yilin’s routines? I saw Aliya and dasha, but I was surprised with the scoring. Makes me wonder what they’ll do with Seitz/Kocian/downie later on. I would imagine some underscoring to not make it look ridiculous.
Will miss quals subdivision 4 so the last thing I’ll say is, Aly is coming to show the world how ready she is for this moment, and I can’t wait. She is so ready for this.
I still can’t help but wonder if Gabby won’t some how end up with a spot in the AA like 2012. They gifted her a spot on the team and as one of the AAers in prelims so I wouldn’t be surprised if AA finals were added to that list
I’m not celebrating Alt’s AA spot until she beats Gabby–you really never know, especially given past history.
But Aly should be able to do it. And unlike 2012, Aly has higher D and better line-up spots than GD. My only worry is them overscoring Gabby on bars. Bars scoring today been wonky.
I had a feeling Laurie floor would score better at the Olympics than she did at home meets and I feel her bars amd beam will be lower tho her beam is pretty esp her leaps and jumps
Gabby looked so uninspired during her floor, almost sluggish with zero expression or personality. Going through the motions Again, she just HAD to be on the team because of all the great things she brings to the table.
Yessssss!!!! So so so happy!! I thought for sure they’d find any way they could to screw her! For once it looks like hard work actually wins over corruption.
One big wobble but rest was nailed. Both she and Gabby were overscored. Gabby was slow on every connection amd they still gave it to her tho they took awhile to come to that score.
The US got a lot if gifts which is why they lead by so much esp on beam where judging was tight all day except for the US. Same with bars and don’t get me started on vault.
Geddert is so crazy. I guess he is still super pissed about Jordyn not being in AA finals. Which i totally get, but seriously… Not the time nor place.
And the bigger travesty is that GD was put in AA to begin with. Or the team honestly. I wonder how mykayla would have scored. And with the way bars judges were handing out extras today, maybe they should have thrown Ashton there instead.
On all three of her events Laurie scored higher than Gabby and with the way UB scoring was I think she could have beaten Gabby but I still don’t know that she could have beaten Aly though but Event finals should definitely be interesting. Vault EFs should be particularly interesting to see who does the upgraded vaults they’ve been training and who plays it safe.
I swear Marta bribes the judges to get what she wants. I got the impression she didn t want Gabby on this team bit had no choice but regardless Aly makes the AA , she gets rid of her and still gets to justify bringing Gabby by her bars score. I’ll never get over Kocian leading bats with the for deductions.
Thanks! Is there hope that Gabby won’t medal on bars? Anyone know if it’s the same judging panel? and…..Geddert with that comment about GD…and shine? It must be legit, right, because his pic accompanies the tweet but….whose ass is he trying to kiss? Timing is allllllllllll wrong.
It is nonsense that GD’s bar E scored 9.2+ and Kocian scored over Musta. Just hope the event final scores be consistent and fair again. And I also feel bad for Fan screwed out of UB final.
Sort of relieved re: Aly/Gabby. I held my breath when Aly wobbled on beam.
Can you imagine if Gabby had gotten Silver in the AA? She’d be declared the “new Nadia,” having won Gold in the AA and gotten a Silver in the following Olympics.
And the Gabby-stans are attacking me on twitter now haha!
I wrote “karma restored” and a reply to me was “here comes the casual racists”. Gotta love it.
As long as he keeps throwing shade at Nastia I want complain about him. He did it again tonight when he said something like , comebacks are hard you know about that Nastia.
LOL! My wife and I were laughing so hard when Creepy Uncle Al said that to Nastia! He’s such a numb nuts…but when he says stupid things like that to her I can’t help but like him a little. LOL.
You know what just kills me? Because Gabby didn’t cry after not making AA, I’m suddenly seeing all these tweets talking about how she’s a much better sport than Jordyn Weiber and criticizing Jordyn for crying in 2012. It makes me sad for Jordyn all over again…Gabby’s already achieved her dream. There’s a huge difference between a 16-year-old at her first Olympics who feels this is her only shot for winning an Olympic AA medal, versus a 20-year-old at her second Olympics who’s already got a gold medal. Jordyn rallied so quickly and killed it in team finals. I can’t imagine being 16, being labeled as the next It-Girl and expected to make AA finals, and watching that dream crash to the ground on live international television. Cut the poor girl a break.
In addition to what you mentioned, Gabby should/could have expected she wouldn’t get in. It was far more shocking with Jo. Jordyn worked for that AA while Gabby was given so many gifts.
God, thank god we didn’t have to witness Gabby in AA.
Just to cheer everyone, here is a gif of Mihai smacking Aly on the head after her mistake on beam. They seem to have such a great relationship.
Exactly. EVERYBODY expected Jordyn to be in that AA final. She was the reigning World Champion. She’d won every AA event (with the exception of placing 2nd at trials) in years. It was shocking she didn’t qualify…anyone would’ve cried. But Gabby had little chance of making this AA, as pretty much everybody familiar with gymnastics knew. Totally different situation.
Gabby was already gifted the team spot and AA qualification spot. Many gymfans were angered with the privilege she got. She even doesn’t deserve those opportunities if Trials results did count fairly. If she was crying about that, it would be totally nonsense. The gymnasts who are more eligible to cry are Mylayla/Ashton/Lauire. I think she may understand.
So true – that’s exactly why I really can’t tolerate her on any level. She continues to be rewarded for not working as hard as the alternates did and continue to do. The gold for team really should not be attributed at all to Gabby. …but it will be.
Finally watched NBC who made this the tragedy of poor Gabby “the most beloved gymnast of recent times” not being eligible for AA – despite scoring “the THIRD best score in the world”. Not one mention from anyone about London and Jordyn losing her opportunity to Gabby…and that JORDYN scored the THIRD best in the world, too.
Then they should all be crying for Larisa Iordache. Bronze AA world champ, not qualified to the Olympics. I wonder what shape she is in at the moment. I bet she would have qualified for AA at least.
This is my opinion on Gabby’s lack of devastation.
I think, on a scale of 1-10 fucks to be given on making the AA, Gabby was coming in at about a 1.5. She knew that it was next to impossible. She was working out with Simone and Aly the last few weeks. She knew what they were capable of. They were not slacking off like her.
So why the big hub bub? To keep fans watching and her money flowing. Like its been said here repeatedly, she is the sole income of her family. I don’t think she wanted to be doing this but felt like she had no choice. I think at the beginning of her comeback, she was motivated. But certainly not in the last year.
Look at her resting bitch face. Gone are the smiles and frankly, gone is her grooming. She looked very nice in early 2015. Hair was nicely styled with ribbons, she wore lipstick and looked more serene. Now she’s messy looking-like it was an effort to even get out of bed.
USA is getting the team gold with or without her. She is coasting on their talent. Three of her 4 scores were thrown out. So, in the end, she can claim another gold medal and the accompanying adulation with minimal effort and keep the money flowing for a few more years. Clever plan.
Gabby seems relieved to me. Now she’s done having to live up to expectations. I think she’s the kind of gymnast who does best when there’s no pressure and no expectation to do well. I feel more charitable to her now that she’s not standing in the way of Aly’s success.
It makes me feel good that I don’t think Laurie would have qualified either. I feel like the two strongest Americans are moving forward. All three hit all four sets, and the top two came out on top. AND all 5 get to move on to event finals.
And Eythora qualified 7th with a fall! And Andrade in 3rd! Of course there were a few disappointments but all in all, it was a good day.
I felt the same way looking at Gabby. She did everything she could in qualifications and it just wasn’t enough. She was a good sport about not making it to the AA. I think she feels a weight lifted off her shoulders that she doesn’t have to try defend her title (which was never going to happen). And please don’t crucify me but her smile and reactions to last night seemed genuine. Which furthers my belief that her Mother and Steve Penny were pushing all this on her for money.
This was the best case scenario for the team put up. No one fell, the right two are going to AA finals and everyone made an individual final. And Gabby did her job as a bars “specialist”.
I will crucify you if I want too;) but I didn’t find a thing she said remotely genuine last night. The smile was fake and the attitude changed because if she continued to act like a spoiled brat she would get no endorsements. She will be a back to back to back gold medalist regardless of what she contributes. Even Amanda Borden got an endorsement for hair in 1996. There is money to be made and a bad attitude won’t cut it. Watching NBC’S broadcast last night Gabby was always off to the side and only congratulated anyone when the camera was around. When everyone else said go team USA she didn’t say it. Sorry but she is even worse than Nastia. At least Nastia is Russian and has the dirty look to fall back on , Gabby doesnt.
GTT, you’re not wrong about Gabby being a bad teammate. I don’t think anyone can argue differently. She’s ALWAYS off to the side, away from the other girls. She never roots them on.
I imagine it’s a cyclical phenomenon – Gabby behaves poorly, so the girls don’t like her, then when she is excluded, she becomes more and more isolated. It’s perfectly fine to be a loner, but she shouldn’t be surprised that she comes across as less likeable than any of the other four.
But I stick by my statement that I don’t care how she does as long as she doesn’t stand in the way of the success of a more deserving athlete. Maggie Nichols, Bailie Key, and Lauren Hernandez were too much to handle. Hopefully she’ll be done after this go-round and we won’t have to deal with her taking unearned places again.
I have never had a problem with Gabby overall, although I don’t really think she deserved a spot on this team. (And I am THRILLED Aly got the other spot.) That said, I think I agree–Gabby seemed pretty chill with not making AA finals, and I wonder if she’s feeling the pressure lift. She didn’t fail spectacularly, she did okay in quals, she just didn’t make the top two. Her pride is intact, now she can relax and help on Thursday and then try for a bars medal.
Speaking of Jordyn, I don’t know if anybody’s posted this, but she gave a pretty in-depth interview last week. Covers the ranch, Gabby, Aly, her 2012 experience, etc. Also talks about hitting puberty 4 months before the Olympics…what horrible timing.
She does seem at peace…but if there was a way to return to amateur status so she could compete in NCAA, she would do whatever it took to make that happen. And I think she would have thrived in that environment.
Great read and a really in depth look at her experience. I’m happy for her. She is in a good place now and I think retirement was the right decision for her.
I hope that Aly continues also after the OG. Does anybody think she will?
And has she actually peaked … ?
I hope she goes for at least worlds 2017 (doing a Kyla version post OG)
I’m betting this is Aly’s swan song. At some point she will want to get on with her life. Maybe she will coach – I think she’d be fantastic in a role like that.
Yes, unfortunately for me because I’ve loved Aly since she become elite, this will prob be her last meet. She has said in numerous interviews that since her first international assignment was in Brazil, it would be great to finish her career in Brazil too.
Of course, she can always change her mind but if she gets her AA medal (which I really hope she does), this will be it.
She would never do a Gabby type comeback (and Mihai wouldn’t let her) so I really hope she finishes on a high note, with an AA silver medal.
Yeah this is what Aly came back for…no sense it continuing to train that hard for the next 4 years, and she of all people knows what it takes to train hard. She never once half assed her comeback. I’m sure this is her swansong, and how awesome would it be to see her on that AA podium, where she deserves.
NOT Gabby. I hope nobody wants to sponsor Gabby after this.
Aly seems like she would be such a great coach, she really seems to have inspired her teammates and is really great at keeping the girls’ nerves in check and keeps them all motivated without being condescending or lording it all over them. I expect she will be attracted to a career with a little more pizzaz though, but let’s hope it’s not fashion because while she may like it I’m not sure it’s quite her forte lol.
Missed all the quals because of a family event. Not internet whatsoever for me, so thank you very much for the updates. It seems like a lot of things have gone crazy. I didn’t see all the things that happened with Laurie coming. Seda in the AA instead of Melnikova? Cata not doing AA after saying she was going to do so and, even more, not doing vault even for pride while Iordache was benched for her? Fan Yilin got bumped out of bars finals? And who is Shallon Olsen? What happened? I’ll try to see it all. If anyone is interested, the Spanish Public Television (RTVE) has uploaded all the subdivisions in its official website for public viewing: http://rio2016.rtve.es/video/discipline=ga/index.html
Omg, I normally don’t bitch about Gymcastic but wholly gymcastic’s episode from last night is gross. “Gabby did her job, the judges didn’t.” I can’t believe how much shade they were throwing at Aly. Ugh. Sigh.
I just finished it. I had a feeling it would be that way but as soon as I heard her announce that had a guest on, Stefan, I knew it would be a Gabby stan fest. Stefan is apparently on Gabby’s tv show or does recaps of the episodes with Jess? I’m not sure because I don’t watch her show or listen to the recaps of it. After trials Jess was saying that Aly shouldn’t get to do AA because “Her bars don’t belong in an AA final.” Luckily all the other commentators were rallying for Aly but that’s probably why they weren’t on this episode because they didn’t share her opinion. Anyway I can’t believe they didn’t spend any time saying what a great job Aly did or how she’s accomplished this great feat. It was just that Gabby did her job and the judges didn’t. I guess they don’t see how far ahead Aly is in start value and how she has been so consistent since nationals. But Gabby should just be able to waltz in after three lack luster competitions and be awarded the AA spot for having one good day and a clean bar routine. Ugghhh.
They were actually trying to say Gabby deserved to be in the AA over Aly?
Give me a break – the fact Gabby was within half a point is sickening to me. If anything the judges were throwing Gabby major gifts. How did her bars all of a sudden go up to 15.8 when they were like 15.2 or 15.5, max, all season long? I didn’t see any improvement on them. Still labored.
Aly has an amanar, Gabby has a DTY.
Aly’s beam is better than Gabby, who can’t make her connections but still gets awarded for them.
Aly’s floor is leaps ahead of Gabby’s…how is this even an argument.
If anything the judges were not doing their jobs because they were clearly making it so that if Aly made one mistake at all, Gabby would have been in that AA.
The only one who really pushed Gabby for AA over Aly was Jess O’Beirne. The rest of the GymCastic crew were like “Sure, Jan” about it and appeared to want Aly for AA.
Jessica always says that Aly is a 3 event gymnast because of her bars. Personally, I think the same “logic” could apply to Gabby with her shitty floor routine.
It’s kind of like the Nastia and Shawn argument
Nastia is not and has never been an AA gymnast yet she has 5 medals and Shawn only has 4. The fact Nastia’s vaults was from 1992 and her floor had no back tumbling at all she code word her floor and they rewarded her for execution she didn’t actually have. It’s just messed up.
My NBC stream is Courtney, John and the third guy whose name I never remember.
Ukraine has only put up 2 on several events supposedly so they can use the final as “extra” practice. They knew they had no medal chances so they didn’t bother with a third.
I am watching MAG team final in Spanish TV right now (if you want to watch it, it is free in the official webpage) and the commentator said that Ukraine thought they had no chance, so they were resting those gymnasts who had individual chances, as Ilanchik said, especially Verniaiev, who is being presented as Uchimura’s great rival for the gold. I think is a shame, though. They are representing their country and I think they should have presented full rotations, even if they prefer for their favored gymnasts to give watered down routine for them to be safer.
Thanks to you both for the explanation of Ukraine. I too think it’s a shame. The 9th place team probably would have loved the chance to compete in team finals.
The third person commenting with John R and Courtney K is Jonathan Horton
I just have to comment… I’ve been thinking a lot about the Gabby situation, and the comments on this board. I’ve been reading religiously since almost the beginning of the blog, and commenting only a little here and there. I was a gymnast and a coach (only optional levels, but at a powerhouse gym, as well as a L10 rated judge for a few years, although that was several years ago.) , and I LOVE GYMNASTICS. However, the Gabby hate hasn’t been sitting well with me.
Don’t get me wrong. I am no Gabby fan. I felt sick after Trials and wanted ANYONE else in that spot. However, the level of hatred and anger toward her here has started to bother me. Instead of fans being analytical and even a little emotionally involved, this feels like bullying now.
Again- I did NOT want her on the team. I don’t care for her.
However, SHE did not put herself on the team. It wasn’t her decision.
Then on Sunday she DID HER JOB.
If any other athlete outside of Simone or Aly got a 60+, hit 4/4, came in 3rd in the AA, and qualified to an event finals, we’d all say, “nice work.”
Since it was Gabby, it’s not good enough. Even though she didn’t unseat Aly (which is possibly why I’m feeling generous toward her now), she’s still the enemy. I really don’t get it.
So I guess my plea here- why do we have to be so ugly?
If you don’t like her, fine. But let’s move on.
She is on the team, she did good work on night 1, and everything turned out the way we hoped- Simone + Aly for the AA.
It just makes me feel discouraged the way the internet has ganged up on a teenager we haven’t even met. There are so many ugly things in the world- we don’t need to manufacture more ugliness.
OK, no more from me on this.
Thank you GTT for a great place for gym fans to discuss the latest- I really do appreciate this blog!
Look . It’s very simple . This place is what it and I am going to have an issue with anyone that knew what this place was when they go here whining because someone they piked was picked on. You knew what this place was when you signed up. God this is why I don’t allow knew people. As for Gabby she didn’t fall. That doesn’t mean she did her job or that someone else that EARNED the spot wouldn’t have done as well or better than she did. She only finished top 3 on ONE event. Mykayla who I think deserved the spot would have bettered her scores on vault and floor. Ragan would have killed her on beam and floor and Ashton would have beaten her on bars so why does Gabby get credit for getting an extra month to show up when every single alternate earned a place on this team over her
So no, she didn’t do her job unless you count the UB she hit which was then pretense to why she was allowed on this team. That position still should have been Kutchers. I’ll have more to say when I have time bit this is explanation now. Gabby didn’t put herself on this team but she accepted the position KNOWING she did not earn it when others did ao I’ll be and if she is going to be given credit for not falling. That doesn’t cut it and it doesn’t give her a free pass and never will.
Gabby is getting a “free” unearned gold team medal (unless everyone falls like 2 times each).
And nobody can tell me GD deserved to go for the AA. I knew it the moment she was on the team she would be given that shot so to be marketed as “defending her title.”
I have no issue with Gabby as a person (who, by the way, is an adult, not a teenager.. she’ll be 21 in December). I DO take issue with her coming back to the sport, after having been at the top of where any gymnast can be, not putting in 100% effort and half-assing her training, and knowingly taking away a sport from a gymnast who hasn’t had the opportunity to compete at the Olympic level and has put in everything into their training to earn on a spot on the team, just because of her name. Gabby isn’t an idiot, she knows her name got her a spot on the team. Add in the reality tv show, and it reallllly isn’t a good look overall.
Why should everyone now jump up and down praising Gabby for doing her job now? She should have been doing it all along. No one else gets singled out for doing their job for their Olympic team. It’s just the expectation that they do.
However, my disdain is PRIMARILY directed at USAGym, Steve Penny and Martha for allowing this to happen, and for prioritising money over fairness, and having inconsistent expectations for their gymnasts. Gabby is the face of their shitty decision-making.
I truly wish her well for the future. I hope she forges her own path and disentangles herself from her family who appear to use Gabby as their personal moneymaker, and I hope that she will truly be supportive of her teammates in the days ahead.
Yes times 10K. Gabby has been the recipient of score gifts and therefore experiences that should have gone to someone else who hasn’t slacked off. She is toxic and…lazy and worse yet – feels entitled but that’s due in no small part to Marta.
I get where you are coming from because all of us are so angry but in no way would I say these comments are “bullying” when it comes to the Gabby issue. I think everyone here is bemoaning the unfairness of the whole situation, even though this type of crap happens every 4 years. The fact it was super obvious didn’t help either.
If anything, USAG/Marta are to blame more than Gabby herself, and I think most of us see it that way. It also doesn’t help that Gabby doesn’t even come off humble about it; she acts entitled. That’s what makes it even harder to take – especially when you consider the girls left behind who actually worked hard to deserve an Olympic spot. The sad fact of the matter is that they were never going to get that Olympic spot come hell or high water; Marta (like always) had her team in mind before nationals most likely.
I called it weeks ago too that Gabby would be taking someone’s AA spot for the sake of having a shot to “defend her title.” It just was in the cards. Again, this is USAG/Marta’s fault.
So Gabby gets a second gold medal for 1 bar routine that would have been irrelevant if Ashton who deserved the spot was on this team but we’re the bad guys for pointing it out. I love this logic . Lol
It’s not bullying. I mean Andrea Joyce had to cut gabby off when gabby repeated three times it was the journey last night, and yes gabby it’s a journey, but tbh Aly had the bar routine of her life, Aly outscored gabby on 2/4 tied on beam and lost on bars. In boxing that’s a win for Aly. It’s unfortunate that rules out in place to help upstart teams and keep Romania from having a podium sweep are now hurting the US but it’s reality. She did her job no major mistakes. If Gabby still had an amanar, like she did in 2012 she might have been in the fight but she chose not to train the Amanar for whatever reason. I will give her this she put up a solid score able backstop routine with a lot of difficulty on every event. But like Mihai told Aly, you have to get back to where you were and then improve, get more skills. How much do you think Aly worked on her Amanar? Her floor score is higher than what she won with in London. She improved bars and beam also. Gabby did not get back to her same level as 2012 or go past it. It’s unfortunate she made other choices that didn’t involve training. I actually for a second felt sorry for her yesterday watching her she smiled after her bar set, and it’s the best routine I’ve seen her do all year. She looks (after watching things a few times) like someone with a major undiagnosed back problem, who didn’t want to hear what docs were telling her and just wanted to make it through. She looks like she’s in a lot of pain, and the grumpy look is pain management. Hey I was right about Lauries injury!!! THis is historic, I don’t think there’s ever been a team where every member made an EF. Not in the two per country era anyway so this is a depth to celebrate. Simones level of gymnastics has forced all the US girls to be better and do better, because there was only one spot available. And that’s a good thing!!
Agreed. From what I’ve read (at least here) I haven’t come across anything that I would consider “bullying” (frankly I think things have gotten to the point, and I’m not speaking of here but just in general, where that term is used far too frequently. And I say that as someone with a background in psych). I think the way the judging was going (and the differences across the different subdivisions) had a lot people that much more emotional and riled up. But even then a lot of what I’ve seen has been directed more towards the *decision* to have Gabby complete AA as opposed to being directed towards Gabby herself (if that makes any sense).
And please don’t tell anyone on this blog to move on. No one has to move on about any issue of this sport unless I tell them too. It’s a huge pet peeve of mine when people tell others what they have the right to say.
I think what Allie is saying (?) is, it is absolutely ok to point out an attitude that comes across not directly inspiring and open (and we all know that we are struggling with something when we are not able to be authentic happy, calm, honest etc) but over time it is easy to personify instead of keeping the eye on the core of the problem which is based on fear, money, politics etc. Not on Gabby as a person.
I recall many on this blog pointing to the core of the problem.
This blog seems to be a room for discussion, on both happy days and a sad days. But now and then it can be a good reminder to ask ourself in what way do we choose to express ourselves and what do we choose to focus on, over time.
Sorry if I got you all wrong Allie 🙂
As I see it it is unfortunate that they named the whole team at trials when the depth is so great. It would at least be smarter to allow more gymnasts come to the last camp, and then make a final decision there, like a filmed mini trial. And that Martha etc are able to clearly argue for the final decision of the team. And if they are not why not state that money and politics are also an important part of the play.
You might have a point H about Alli’s opinion if this blog was say IG magazine. They own a business and their message board should have rules for the betterment of their paying customers but this is a blog , a blog that I created so the truth could be pointed out as much as I feel like pointing it out . I still bitch about the AA ‘s from the 88 and 92 Olympics so telling me or anyone to get over it doesn’t bode well 🙂
Bullying? Wow. We have become a nation of complete wimps if talking about something unfair and wrong in addition to noticing an entitled attitude and poor sportsmanship is bullying. No one is saying this to her in person or stupid social media. We’re discussing it here.
As far as her results not being “good enough? ” That’s the FIG decision.
GTT- this is long and personal, If you feel it is not appropriate, I understand if you delete it.
My reaction to the bullying comment stems from having been horribly bullied for 6 years ages 12-18 until I was able to leave for college. It was a true nightmare. Emotionally and physically. Cruel notes passed to me in class right in front of the teachers saying I should be dead, things written on my locker, told to my face how ugly they thought I was, spit on in the restrooms, at age 14, 3 guys pulled me behind a school building, told me next time they’d rape me, then threatened to kill me if I told. I believed them. These guys burned down part of our junior high with zero consequences. I was scared and depressed.
This was the early 80s. The term bullying did not exist and it was definitely not applied to each and everything that happened or was said that someone did not agree with. It was considered part of growing up and was told it was I who needed to develop a thicker skin. I told a high school counselor once who sympathized but said that the boys had powerful parents and that their hands were tied. I was on my own.
Kids today have it worse with social media. I read these stories of these teens who commit or attempt suicide because of the irrational hate that comes at them 24/7 online. It makes me so sad imaging the pain that made them believe that they wouldn’t ever find relief and feel safe again. .
This is my story. I was not a 20 year old multi-millionaire from a parasitic family who has probably helped themselves to her fortune and now find themself worrying about maintaining their lifestyle. I was a 12 year old from a good solidly middle class white collar family who tried to help but couldn’t. I never told them the really awful stuff due to fear of retaliation.That’s bullying. Talking about an adult on a blog who flaunts her past success and expects everything handed to her is not.
And for my last words, may I say that I recall these conversations nearly verbatim when Nastia trained for about 2 weeks before attempting to make the 2012 team. She kept getting moved to the next step in the qualifying process although Shawn Johnson and Chellsie Memmell who did train were told to get lost. There was a lot of disgust over the free passes and injustices. And also Nastia’s entitled attitude and bitchy demeanor. Telling reporters that she had only been training a few weeks. What a slap in the face to those who put their hearts and souls into it. Sound familiar?
Thank you all who took the time to read my long post!
I feel for what you went through as a child. It’s horrible to be bullied and kids are assholes. Everyone has been bullied at one time or another. When you personally are said things to your face that is bullying but random comments on a blog is fair play as far as I am concerned. If Gabby wanted to read this blog that is her right but if she does she better be prepared for honest opinions amd frank talk because it’s not my job to pump her ego. This blog is for fans not gymnasts and their parents which is why I don’t promote this place on twitter or Facebook. I don’t want to be friends with these gymnasts. This blog is for the fans. We all know Simone’s coach has posted here. I have has several gymnasts mothers in the past also try and post here but I let it be known we will not sugar coat what is said. I love the triple twist girls but they spend a lot of time on twitter talking to the gymnasts and that is their right but I don’t feel comfortable doing that. Eventually I will offend someone so I keep my blog gymnast free. Sure I would probably let a gymnast post here if they wanted but they would be warned before hand that the ass kissing and Vanessa Atler at Gymn.com like would not be tolerated.
I wouldn’t call what you went through bullying at all I would call it assault. Once those boys put their hands on you their ass’s should have been put in jail. What a horrible thing to go through and even worse that nothing could be done about it.
Fifth again LMFAO!!!! DOnnell should be there over Brooks!!! THis is what they get for having their chosen people!!! Two Olympics for Mikluak and I’d bet zero medals!!!
Yea the men finished right where I thought they would from the moment the team was announced.
Probably Leyva, at alternate, will end up with the only medal again…
Leyva might get both pbars and high bar, dalton and Naddour may medal also, but Brooks was just a golden boy waste of space like bozo. Akash would have been a better pick!!! But what they did to donnell… Ridiculous. I just want mikulak to go away and get 9th AA and for Brooks to get like 22nd
I am not able to watch reply by NBC olympics streams. If anyone have links to Aly’s UB, Musta, Ferrari and Laurie’s floor it is most appreciated.
Dream: Ferrari floor medal, Ponor beam medal, Aly everything that glitters:-)
Hypothetically: If Simone or Laurie for some unlikely reason dont do beam final, would both Aly and Gabby then do beam final? They got the same e- and d- score, so it then would be 9 in beam final?
Everyone keeps saying Aly and it have the same d and e score but I could have sworn NBC said Aly had a 6.5 and Gabby for a 6.3. Execution score wins. If b96 they might add all judges scores in for decision
I believe I read somewhere that in this case, the federation picks the athlete to compete. So in the event that one of the two US qualifiers on beam could not compete, it would be up to Marta who to put in since Aly and Gabby had the same D and E scores.
so then they bring in all the judges score and decide from there … and if it happens to be the same, I guess 9 it is. At least they cannot take out the present number 8?
Interesting question, who is two per countried out an event final when the score is exactly he same? Maybe the federation does choose, or they eliminate the next lowest or highest e score. Let me know if you find a precedent or a rule H
I always thought they would count all scores (instead of dropping lowest and highest) and then whoever ends with higher E will go. Isn’t that what happened to Nastia in 2008 bar final?
H, I don’t know about YouTube, but if you don’t mind the Spanish comments, RTVE have uploaded all the subdivision for public viewing. You can see all of them here: http://rio2016.rtve.es/video/discipline=ga/index.html
Thank you. I tried, but the main stream does not show the routines I was searching for and well .. my Spanish is not good so I didn’t find i.e. only beam stream etc ?
Regarding ridiculous Al…. Missy Marlowe just posted this on FB:
gym fans, just remember that Al Trautwig was also the crass ass that made a big deal out of my parents at Olympic Trials “Mother on one side of the arena, Father on the other, divorced since she was 2″……..please. Stupid is as stupid does. Can’t change it. My mom fired off a letter to NBC and that was 28 years ago.
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August 7, 2016 at 8:31 AM |
Someone posted this on Twitter. Looked like Maggie Haney was arrested in college while she was a gymnast at NC State
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/131211/
August 7, 2016 at 8:34 AM |
That’s hilarious
August 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM
Lauren Hopkins wanted to follow Laurie and jazzy for the last year and a half. Initially Maggie said yes then no because flo gymnastics paid her to do a feature. She said doing a project with Lauren might upset Marta. Funny because flo lost their USAG media credential and Lauren is running facts for the NBC broadcast team in addition to the gymternet press credential. Maggie also convinced Laurie to follow her when she left the gym Laurie was at. The ranch documentary where she tells Laurie she has to get 3-4 more tenth so in SV on bars to make an Olympic team, Haney is shrewd, not a kind person but shrewd and cunning. She looks like she thinks she’s smarter than everyone else. I honestly believe she thought doing this would get Laurie an AA spot. It was a last ditch effort. And then Marta just pulled the we will replace you because we are the great and powerful oz card.
August 7, 2016 at 9:48 AM |
That was so crazy I couldn’t even follow it. She seems to be a great coach but between her shooter-girl look and the amount of tissues she’s been through this week definitely an odd bird on the coaching scene.
August 7, 2016 at 10:18 AM |
I guess if you are arrested for selling alcohol to minors and were possibly involved in a riot in which a man was killed, you aren’t very employable; hence, start your own business coaching gymnastics
August 7, 2016 at 11:30 AM |
How is this just coming out now??
August 7, 2016 at 11:35 AM
It’s the first thing that comes up when you search her name. Perhaps no one bothered to google her before?
I’ve never been a fan of her. She has several elites but she seems to think Laurie is her prize child.
Plus, she basically burned out Ari who is now down to level 10.
August 7, 2016 at 7:02 PM
I read about that several months ago…someone posted a link on Tumblr/twitter and I assumed that people knew.
I wasn’t a fan of hers before so finding out about her “past” was just one more reason not to like her.
August 7, 2016 at 2:02 PM |
Is Maggie the blonde coach? How old is she? I kind of have to admire any last ditch efforts against Marta. Laurie has won a lot of attention and people will probably not like the fact Gabby gets to go for AA, but not Laurie who was 2nd at Trials. Marta is probably already telling Tim and Nastia what to say like that night 2 of trials when it was so obvious that they were told to spin the story of how Gabby was needed on this team.
Blech.
August 7, 2016 at 7:07 PM |
Yes, the blonde. The one who looks like stereotypical Jersey shore trash (sorry, I’m a bitch but I can’t help but think that every time I see her). She was in college from 1996-2000 so I’m going to assume that she’s about 38.
August 7, 2016 at 10:20 PM
I am terrible I ALWAYS think of the Real Housewives of Nee Jersey when I see Maggie. She seems like a scary broad.
August 7, 2016 at 9:17 PM |
She looks heavily botoxed with fillers and some lip plumping
August 7, 2016 at 9:20 PM |
Is anyone watching the coverage right now? I’m hoping to see China but right now I’ve only been seeing Belgian floor. It was nice to see Chuso on beam too!
August 7, 2016 at 9:29 PM |
They showed a bunch of China earlier like between 9 and 9:30. Once it’s over you should be able to replay it and at least watched them. They looked decent a few issues on floor though
August 7, 2016 at 9:33 PM
Thanks Melissa!
August 7, 2016 at 10:40 PM |
you can choose what event to watch..
August 7, 2016 at 9:27 PM |
I am watching. Shang need a great bar to qualify into AA.
Great beam from Turkey
August 7, 2016 at 9:29 PM |
14.500 for her beam
August 7, 2016 at 9:29 PM
Her name is Tutya Yilmaz!
August 7, 2016 at 9:29 PM |
Thanks for the update- I think my stream is caught up with yours now. So glad Chinese haven’t done bars yet- I got up at 5:45 am so I could watch them. NBC won’t show them in their broadcast coverage
August 7, 2016 at 9:31 PM
BBC is great for this sub division
August 7, 2016 at 9:33 PM
I believe that the US streaming is actually the BBC coverage which is so much better than Nastia and Tim, the NBC puppets/Gabby apologists
August 7, 2016 at 9:36 PM |
Miller sat down the last pass …. floor
August 7, 2016 at 10:22 PM |
Heartbroken for Larrissa she’s beautiful on floor.
August 7, 2016 at 9:37 PM |
Was sorry to see that… couldn’t help but notice that she has helicopter legs similar to Musty
August 7, 2016 at 9:41 PM |
Great bar Shang – she got 15.300 on UB 🙂
August 7, 2016 at 9:45 PM |
15.266 ( d- 6.9) Fan.
Shang d-score 6.7 /15.300
August 7, 2016 at 9:46 PM |
Just gorgeous- 6.7 D, 8.6 E
Isn’t Gabby supposed to have a similar SV? After watching Chunsong- I can’t imagine it being that high
August 7, 2016 at 9:50 PM
No, Korean has a 6.7. Gabby’s maxes at a 6.5, but she usually misses connections to put her between 6.2 and 6.4.
August 7, 2016 at 9:54 PM
F’ing autocorrect. Kocian, not Korean.
August 7, 2016 at 9:57 PM
@Melanie lol, I was really wondering what you had put in your coffee;-)
August 7, 2016 at 11:15 PM
With Marta’s removal of skill from Gabbys routine she will be lucky to be credited with a 6
August 7, 2016 at 9:48 PM |
Does the floor seem louder than usual? Not sure if it’s that or my feed being wonky
August 7, 2016 at 10:03 PM |
Vault: Hong Un-Jong 15.683 . Chuso 14.999
Going to have to go back and watch Hong vaults
August 7, 2016 at 10:07 PM |
Ponor is prop reaching final floor. Good routine, mostly clean landings.
August 7, 2016 at 10:08 PM |
or maybe not, she only got 14. 200, they are strict on floor ….
August 7, 2016 at 10:29 PM |
I noticed that she stopped and rested before each pass which is supposed to be deductions. Don’t know how consistently the judges apply it but this may be part of the stricter scoring if they are actually enforcing it
August 7, 2016 at 10:12 PM |
Dickson from Belarus- 12.833 on bars. BBC commentators not impressed by the move by Nelli Kim and pointed out that she facilitated it
August 7, 2016 at 10:15 PM |
Musty off beam on front aerial!
August 7, 2016 at 10:16 PM |
Nooooooo Mustafina
August 7, 2016 at 10:18 PM |
And best bb routine ever from Spiri
August 7, 2016 at 10:17 PM |
Disaster from Russia on beam. Musty fell, Melnikova was a trainwreck, and Tutkhalyan was the only hit. Yikes.
August 7, 2016 at 10:19 PM |
And Spiridonova is going to outscore both Musty and Melka. They should buy her a present.
August 7, 2016 at 10:23 PM
Daria was surprisingly decent on beam!
August 7, 2016 at 10:22 PM |
looks like their nerves are getting to them
Seda: 14.466
Daria: 14.266
Musty 13.033
Melnikova 13.266
August 7, 2016 at 10:25 PM |
Tutya from Turkey is 2nd in beam so far with a 14.5 ahead of Russians and Chunsong!
August 7, 2016 at 10:28 PM |
It was an awesome routine, especially since the judges basically decided to take a smoke break while she was waiting to go.
August 7, 2016 at 10:32 PM
That was super unprofessional on their part. Speculation that the judges were scoring too far apart and had to fix it lol good grief- it’s the olympics people. get it together
August 7, 2016 at 10:38 PM |
Steingrubber 15.266 vault, in 2nd so far
August 7, 2016 at 10:41 PM |
Melka crashed again on floor. 13.2. Looks like Seda is going to make AA finals.
August 7, 2016 at 10:44 PM |
Russia’s in trouble.
August 7, 2016 at 10:45 PM |
Yes they are sadly… don’t look competition ready at all
August 7, 2016 at 10:47 PM |
After two rotations, Italy is up by 2.5 points. What is happening?!
August 7, 2016 at 10:47 PM |
Opening the door for GB or other team to medal in team
August 7, 2016 at 11:00 PM |
Happy for Seda, but I was so hoping Musty would make bb final
August 7, 2016 at 11:15 PM
She jumped off the beam literally and did not get flight series credit
August 7, 2016 at 10:52 PM |
Hourly double back is almost as good as the china
August 7, 2016 at 10:55 PM |
I’m so not impressed with the volunteers apparel. they should be led by people dressed for carnival!!
August 7, 2016 at 11:00 PM |
russia will do great in TF (i think)
August 7, 2016 at 11:04 PM |
The commentators are killing me! Since when would Steingruber be expecting to make bars finals? They know nothing!
August 7, 2016 at 11:04 PM |
yes that one was a head scratcher
August 7, 2016 at 11:09 PM
BBC..always be polite..
August 7, 2016 at 11:15 PM
I think they’re Australian, not BBC.
August 7, 2016 at 11:08 PM |
Paseka 1st vault- almost missed vaulting table- awful form due to trying to get around to land on feet, out of bounds. Wow
August 7, 2016 at 11:12 PM |
15.049 event score… in 3rd thus far
At this rate, if Marta had brought Skinner, there may have been a chance for her
August 7, 2016 at 11:15 PM |
One more rotation and then we get a break.
August 7, 2016 at 11:17 PM |
Russia at this point along with Italy will be lucky to make TF. this is really craptacular with all the misses today.
August 7, 2016 at 11:17 PM |
WTF..there are level 9 routines better than that!!!
August 7, 2016 at 11:18 PM |
Cata will make floor final even if they underscore people. 2 Americans 2 brazilians maybe 2 from gb…..
August 7, 2016 at 11:21 PM |
Steingrubber and Yan in 1st with 14.666
Expect one of them to make it in
August 7, 2016 at 11:35 PM |
OK a Romanian hits beam in the Olympics.. some normalcy attained.
August 7, 2016 at 11:35 PM |
Spiri 15.683 d- score 6.7, Musty 15.833!!!!!!! (d-score 6.8:-)
August 7, 2016 at 11:37 PM |
Ponor bb d-score 6.2, 14.900
August 7, 2016 at 11:39 PM |
Seda hit 4 for 4
August 7, 2016 at 11:42 PM |
She is 1st AA right now. Who would have thought lol
Go Seda!
August 7, 2016 at 11:45 PM |
Seda’s big “screw you” to VRod.
August 7, 2016 at 11:42 PM |
Seda, Musta in AA
August 8, 2016 at 12:29 AM |
Mustafina won’t be in the top six group likely
August 8, 2016 at 1:14 AM |
R. downie touches the bar with her feet .. minus .5
15.233
August 8, 2016 at 1:20 AM |
tkatchev
August 8, 2016 at 1:23 AM |
Flavia hits beam for a 15.133. And she missed a couple of connections for a 6.3 start value. Woo-hoo!
August 8, 2016 at 1:27 AM |
Craziness. Go seda! She made me proud today. As for cata scratching vault and bars, I wonder what was up with that? She clearly had routines, but who knows what happened. Conspiracy theorists are saying she waited until the alternate deadline to decide only doing beam and floor lol. Sooooo bars scoring anyone? Doesn’t it seem a little bit sketch? How were chunsong and yilin’s routines? I saw Aliya and dasha, but I was surprised with the scoring. Makes me wonder what they’ll do with Seitz/Kocian/downie later on. I would imagine some underscoring to not make it look ridiculous.
Will miss quals subdivision 4 so the last thing I’ll say is, Aly is coming to show the world how ready she is for this moment, and I can’t wait. She is so ready for this.
I wonder if gabby will even congratulate her.
August 8, 2016 at 1:49 AM |
I still can’t help but wonder if Gabby won’t some how end up with a spot in the AA like 2012. They gifted her a spot on the team and as one of the AAers in prelims so I wouldn’t be surprised if AA finals were added to that list
August 8, 2016 at 1:55 AM
Jas, I am thinking the same. NOTHING surprises me with this girl anymore.
August 8, 2016 at 2:00 AM
I’m not celebrating Alt’s AA spot until she beats Gabby–you really never know, especially given past history.
But Aly should be able to do it. And unlike 2012, Aly has higher D and better line-up spots than GD. My only worry is them overscoring Gabby on bars. Bars scoring today been wonky.
August 8, 2016 at 2:05 AM
I feel bad because I really want her to fall.
August 8, 2016 at 2:43 AM
My worries from the start and the idea of Gabby somehow edging Aly out seriously makes me sick.
August 8, 2016 at 3:26 AM
That’s my big fear too, JAS and G. I will be sick for Aly if she gets screwed out.
August 8, 2016 at 3:33 AM
If Gabby doesn’t make aa or bars final, or any other final, that’ll be the real karma. Need this to happen.
August 8, 2016 at 2:00 AM |
Gabby has to face disappointment this year. LOL
August 8, 2016 at 2:46 PM
I came on here specifically looking for this comment. ^ LOLOLOL.
August 8, 2016 at 1:31 AM |
Lady commentator doesn’t like Ellie Downie, not sure why. Being a bit bitchy about what was a solid hit routine on beam.
August 8, 2016 at 1:41 AM |
R. Downie fell bb. ugh i really hoped she was going to make the bb final. Hopefully she will hold on to a ub spot
August 8, 2016 at 2:09 AM |
this must be shared
August 8, 2016 at 2:11 AM |
Gabby looks thrilled for QF
August 8, 2016 at 2:12 AM
Forgot the photo
August 8, 2016 at 2:33 AM |
90 min …
August 8, 2016 at 2:44 AM |
Today’s leos
https://twitter.com/rhondausagym/status/762365390806716416
August 8, 2016 at 3:59 AM |
I feel sick. Come on Aly!
August 8, 2016 at 4:02 AM |
Me too. Prayer circle for Aly. Four for four!!
August 8, 2016 at 4:04 AM |
Anyone got a live scoring site?
August 8, 2016 at 4:06 AM |
https://live.fig-gymnastics.com/schedule.php?idevent=6405
This is pretty live 🙂 Go on “ranking”.
August 8, 2016 at 4:07 AM
Thank you!
August 8, 2016 at 4:07 AM
Sorry no… they didnt update it yet.
August 8, 2016 at 4:07 AM |
Gabby goes OOB in preparation for a tumbling run. Good start lol
August 8, 2016 at 4:06 AM |
Guys my stomach is literally turning 😩
August 8, 2016 at 4:08 AM |
Same here!!!
August 8, 2016 at 4:10 AM
Yes!! Same!!
August 8, 2016 at 4:20 AM |
Breeth.. In out in out
August 8, 2016 at 4:12 AM |
I am dying over here!! Come on Aly!!
August 8, 2016 at 4:19 AM |
At least the 14.366 will definitely keep her well behind Aly for now so I can breathe
August 8, 2016 at 4:23 AM |
Except for bars, Aly has higher start values. Based on her floor E score compared to GD, looks like the judges might prefer Aly
August 8, 2016 at 4:18 AM |
I had a feeling Laurie floor would score better at the Olympics than she did at home meets and I feel her bars amd beam will be lower tho her beam is pretty esp her leaps and jumps
August 8, 2016 at 4:20 AM |
Aly slayed floor!
August 8, 2016 at 4:22 AM
Hurrah!
August 8, 2016 at 4:21 AM |
Great floor rotation for the US.
August 8, 2016 at 4:22 AM |
Aly almost a point ahead of Gabby for now. All good for now. Fingers crossed.
August 8, 2016 at 4:25 AM
This is the reason why I’m calm right now lol
August 8, 2016 at 4:26 AM
Aly’s floor OMG. Almost stuck cold.
August 8, 2016 at 4:22 AM |
and now to move one screen to the vault
August 8, 2016 at 4:24 AM |
OMG.. somebody must gif laurie spinning
August 8, 2016 at 4:26 AM |
Gabby looked so uninspired during her floor, almost sluggish with zero expression or personality. Going through the motions Again, she just HAD to be on the team because of all the great things she brings to the table.
August 8, 2016 at 4:30 AM |
I don’t know what Aly did to fix her landing on vault but holy cow!
August 8, 2016 at 4:51 AM |
Cold landing… I cheered
August 8, 2016 at 4:31 AM |
Ok my video feed didnt change but went from the bbc comentators to kourtney and john?
August 8, 2016 at 4:37 AM |
I still have BBC on the NBC feed? Others are saying theirs switched to Jon and Kourtney.
August 8, 2016 at 4:38 AM
Mine didn’t switch but that’s fine lol
August 8, 2016 at 4:31 AM |
Didn’t see Aly’s vault but but I read it was nearly stuck and got a 15.766, this is incredible!!!
August 8, 2016 at 4:32 AM |
havent seen a cheng that good since cheng
August 8, 2016 at 4:36 AM |
It was pretty amazing
August 8, 2016 at 4:35 AM |
Aly’s vault OMG guys she has this in the bag I’m literally so happy right now!
August 8, 2016 at 4:36 AM |
I will not breathe until she’s safely through bars!
August 8, 2016 at 4:38 AM
^ Yes what Gymbee said!
August 8, 2016 at 4:39 AM
I’m not breathing until it’s done and no one can challenge anything!!
August 8, 2016 at 4:39 AM |
Damn the nbc feed didnt show Alys vault hopefully the craptastic primetime broadcast will show it later
August 8, 2016 at 4:40 AM |
@Giselle_M7 has it on twitter! 🙂
August 8, 2016 at 4:44 AM
Thanks!
August 8, 2016 at 4:49 AM
I switched to a bars feed. Not skipping a routine this time lol
August 8, 2016 at 4:49 AM
Thanks!
August 8, 2016 at 4:49 AM |
Oh god they are not showing Aly here. I am almost relieved. My heart can’t take it.
August 8, 2016 at 4:51 AM |
Praise the lord Aly hit bars
August 8, 2016 at 4:52 AM |
She hits!!!
August 8, 2016 at 4:52 AM |
14.733 Aly bars. is it correct?
August 8, 2016 at 4:55 AM |
Yes! And 15.00 for Simone. Yayay
August 8, 2016 at 4:54 AM |
does anybody know the 8th place bars score so far?
August 8, 2016 at 4:58 AM |
15.133 Seda
August 8, 2016 at 4:56 AM |
AA so far
Simone 31.733
Aly 31.041
Laurie 30.00
Gabby 29.532
August 8, 2016 at 4:59 AM |
Oh hell No
August 8, 2016 at 5:00 AM |
Yeah what in the world with these bars scores? I’m not able to watch soooo aly’s and gabbys scores sound crazy to me….
August 8, 2016 at 4:59 AM |
If my husband has done the maths correctly Gabby is 0.477 behind Aly before beam. (he’s here with a calculator and post-its haha)
August 8, 2016 at 5:00 AM |
Lucky..I need a score person
August 8, 2016 at 5:07 AM |
Good thing it’s beam to decide
Although Marta may have had a chat with judges about GD and AA.
My heart is in my throat
August 8, 2016 at 5:00 AM |
FINALLY legs together on her VL!!
August 8, 2016 at 5:00 AM |
15.766 for gabby…um.
August 8, 2016 at 5:01 AM |
She got the 6.5 sv? No way
August 8, 2016 at 5:02 AM |
What? That’s got to be a joke. And I thought this was over. Grrr.
Maddie goes into 1st
August 8, 2016 at 5:06 AM
UB judges always decide the outcome by their cheating. Unbelievable.
August 8, 2016 at 5:08 AM
I’m literally going to throw something if Gabby is overscored on beam and qualifies over Aly.
August 8, 2016 at 5:10 AM
That sure looked pretty blatant to me
Not a 6.5 and E way too high
August 8, 2016 at 5:13 AM
She will be overscored on beam. Question is will it be a. 5 difference?
August 8, 2016 at 5:15 AM
I’m not sure I can watch. I feel like throwing up.
August 8, 2016 at 6:26 AM
I am pissed off that Fan Yilin didn’t make her bar finals. The judge scoring sucks.
August 8, 2016 at 6:27 AM
I am pretty sure they will replace Shang with Fan if the results stay as they are.
August 8, 2016 at 5:00 AM |
Gabby and Kocian hitbars5
August 8, 2016 at 5:01 AM |
Kocian best bars score so far??
August 8, 2016 at 5:01 AM |
gabby 15.766 ub
August 8, 2016 at 5:02 AM |
Yes 15.866
August 8, 2016 at 5:04 AM
Sorry I was replying to Gymbee about bars ranking
August 8, 2016 at 5:04 AM |
So very quickly go find a goat to sacrifice!!
August 8, 2016 at 5:09 AM |
Oh god I am getting cold sweats. Argh.
August 8, 2016 at 5:13 AM |
who has the higher d score on beam aly or gabby
August 8, 2016 at 5:31 AM |
Full credit Aly 6.5 GD 6.3
August 8, 2016 at 5:16 AM |
Did Aly put her hand down?!! Saw it in the background on floor!
August 8, 2016 at 5:18 AM |
no touch
August 8, 2016 at 5:20 AM
It’s enough. Aly is in!!!
August 8, 2016 at 5:20 AM |
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
August 8, 2016 at 5:20 AM |
SHE DID IT!! ALY’S IN THE AA!!!
August 8, 2016 at 5:20 AM |
Looks like Aly needs a 14.357 to get thev2nd AA spit.
August 8, 2016 at 5:20 AM |
Raisman: 60.607
Douglas: 60.131
WE ALL HAVE TO LEARN TO DEAL WITH DISAPPOINTMENT! hahahaha!!!
August 8, 2016 at 5:22 AM |
Thank you thank you thank you
So who’s going to tweet her that she has to learn to disappointment?
August 8, 2016 at 5:24 AM
where did she go?
August 8, 2016 at 5:23 AM |
Too bad Gabby makes the bars final. But so glad no AA for her.
August 8, 2016 at 5:33 AM
Possible she might medal given she gets to rest now out of AA and judges show her love .
August 8, 2016 at 5:40 AM |
I waiting til Aly stays healthy and competes .
August 8, 2016 at 5:47 AM
Yes. That is true.
August 8, 2016 at 5:48 AM
Tho I really want to gloat 🙂 .
August 8, 2016 at 2:52 PM
Agree with all of this. 🙂
August 8, 2016 at 2:51 PM |
^Knew that was coming…lol.
August 8, 2016 at 5:22 AM |
ALY IS THROUGH
August 8, 2016 at 5:24 AM |
Does this mean Marta and Steve have to return the money?
August 8, 2016 at 5:24 AM |
Thank you! Aly:-)
August 8, 2016 at 5:25 AM |
And somewhere in Westwood Jordyn wieber does a huge happy dance while I guess everyone including gabby has to learn to deal with disappointment.
August 8, 2016 at 2:53 PM |
Yeah, I also kind of wondered if she was having a nice little smirk somewhere.
August 8, 2016 at 5:25 AM |
Laurie top beam qualifier pre-Simone
She makes beam final
August 8, 2016 at 5:25 AM |
Hope Laurie slays beam so gabby is limited to only uneven bars
August 8, 2016 at 5:26 AM |
Yessssss!!!! So so so happy!! I thought for sure they’d find any way they could to screw her! For once it looks like hard work actually wins over corruption.
August 8, 2016 at 5:27 AM |
how was Alys beam? did she has wobbles etc?
August 8, 2016 at 5:52 AM |
One big wobble but rest was nailed. Both she and Gabby were overscored. Gabby was slow on every connection amd they still gave it to her tho they took awhile to come to that score.
August 8, 2016 at 6:10 AM
Thanks. Aren’t you happy GTT:-) she did it!
August 8, 2016 at 6:18 AM
I’ll be happy when the AA officially happens. Then I will gloat 🙂
August 8, 2016 at 6:21 AM
Ha
August 8, 2016 at 7:32 AM |
OKay I was totally right on this…..
August 8, 2016 at 5:27 AM |
Thank you Jesus. Gabby only made bar finals and won’t medal because it’s not medal worthy
August 8, 2016 at 5:39 AM |
She’s currently in 3rd and Fan just got knocked out of finals
August 8, 2016 at 6:29 AM
The judge scorings are not consistent in different rotations… I feel Fan Yilin is robbed.
August 8, 2016 at 6:33 AM
The US got a lot if gifts which is why they lead by so much esp on beam where judging was tight all day except for the US. Same with bars and don’t get me started on vault.
August 8, 2016 at 5:27 AM |
Seda out of beam final
August 8, 2016 at 5:29 AM |
Honestly we only have to see gabby do two more bar routines. Lmfao
August 8, 2016 at 5:29 AM |
OK.. who needs a drink
August 8, 2016 at 5:30 AM |
already on my second glass ….
August 8, 2016 at 2:54 PM
We need a “Like” button.
August 8, 2016 at 5:31 AM |
Make mine a double unless it’s Jack then make it a triple…. mmmmmm thirsty
August 8, 2016 at 5:29 AM |
US up by 10 over 2nd place China
August 8, 2016 at 5:31 AM |
Enlighet me, how was Alys beam?
August 8, 2016 at 5:33 AM |
It was good, apart from a wobble on her side somi (I think?)
August 8, 2016 at 5:35 AM
free cartwheel = side somi?
August 8, 2016 at 5:46 AM
That’s the one! I only saw it over the shoulder of the gymnast on floor.
August 8, 2016 at 5:34 AM |
On the positive side … Everyone on the team made an EF(s) one way or another. Probably great for the team chemistry/feeling for the days to come.
August 8, 2016 at 5:37 AM |
Yeah that’s a good point, though I doubt some have learned to live with disappointment yet. Hah.
August 8, 2016 at 2:55 PM
I ALMOST felt sorry for her, till she started babbling her way through her interview. Blah.
August 8, 2016 at 3:00 PM
All about her amazing journey. It amazes her because it was so amazing.
August 8, 2016 at 5:43 AM |
How long time is it to the last sub div?
August 8, 2016 at 5:52 AM |
90 min
August 8, 2016 at 5:53 AM
Thanks:-) totally time zone confused …
I still cannot belive Aly did it … I am so happy for her!
August 8, 2016 at 6:00 AM
Couldn’t be happier for Aly. She needs redemption of her first AA medal. Hope she can do it.
August 8, 2016 at 5:45 AM |
that dude has no neck
August 8, 2016 at 5:47 AM |
umm. u weren’t financially able to do it…
August 8, 2016 at 5:54 AM |
?
August 8, 2016 at 5:56 AM
Did Geddert really post this?
https://twitter.com/johnggeddert/status/762412147922042880
August 8, 2016 at 6:11 AM
watching the gabby fluff on the daily dismount
August 8, 2016 at 6:33 AM
Geddert is so crazy. I guess he is still super pissed about Jordyn not being in AA finals. Which i totally get, but seriously… Not the time nor place.
And the bigger travesty is that GD was put in AA to begin with. Or the team honestly. I wonder how mykayla would have scored. And with the way bars judges were handing out extras today, maybe they should have thrown Ashton there instead.
August 8, 2016 at 6:44 AM
He’s consistent!
August 8, 2016 at 9:28 PM
@KG “And the bigger travesty is that GD was put in AA to begin with.”
Agreed. I don’t normally agree with Tim Daggett, but even he seemed to not-so-subtly hint at his surprise that Laurie wasn’t doing AA.
August 8, 2016 at 5:58 AM |
On all three of her events Laurie scored higher than Gabby and with the way UB scoring was I think she could have beaten Gabby but I still don’t know that she could have beaten Aly though but Event finals should definitely be interesting. Vault EFs should be particularly interesting to see who does the upgraded vaults they’ve been training and who plays it safe.
August 8, 2016 at 5:58 AM
UB and BB judges were on Crack today .
August 8, 2016 at 6:01 AM
Especially bars. Kocian ahead of Aliya is some real injustice.
And Douglas knocking Fan and Downie out of bar final. Like what? Ugh.
August 8, 2016 at 6:05 AM
I swear Marta bribes the judges to get what she wants. I got the impression she didn t want Gabby on this team bit had no choice but regardless Aly makes the AA , she gets rid of her and still gets to justify bringing Gabby by her bars score. I’ll never get over Kocian leading bats with the for deductions.
August 8, 2016 at 9:33 PM
I agree about Fan, but didn’t Downie lose .5 for clipping the bar with her feet? Otherwise I’m guessing Downie would probably still be in the final.
August 8, 2016 at 6:13 AM |
Anyone one where I can see Alys beam and bars?
August 8, 2016 at 6:26 AM |
Scores for Simone?
August 8, 2016 at 6:28 AM |
16 on her Amanar. 16.100 on Chang. UB was a 15.000 Beam was 15.7 something and I forget floor maybe a 15.7 something too .
August 8, 2016 at 6:34 AM
Thanks! Is there hope that Gabby won’t medal on bars? Anyone know if it’s the same judging panel? and…..Geddert with that comment about GD…and shine? It must be legit, right, because his pic accompanies the tweet but….whose ass is he trying to kiss? Timing is allllllllllll wrong.
August 8, 2016 at 6:43 AM
I feel like his tweet is just re-iterating what happened two years ago. I mean the two per country rule IS idiotic.
August 8, 2016 at 6:48 AM
I mean 4 years ago #duh
August 8, 2016 at 7:47 AM
It is nonsense that GD’s bar E scored 9.2+ and Kocian scored over Musta. Just hope the event final scores be consistent and fair again. And I also feel bad for Fan screwed out of UB final.
August 8, 2016 at 6:34 AM |
I wasn’t able to watch but this outcome makes me so, so happy.
Tell me, did they shove a mic in Gabby’s face and ask her about missing all around? What did she say???
August 8, 2016 at 7:16 AM |
I think Gabby should say again “Everyone has to live with disappointment. This is my turn today.”
August 8, 2016 at 6:37 AM |
Sort of relieved re: Aly/Gabby. I held my breath when Aly wobbled on beam.
Can you imagine if Gabby had gotten Silver in the AA? She’d be declared the “new Nadia,” having won Gold in the AA and gotten a Silver in the following Olympics.
August 8, 2016 at 6:39 AM |
And the Gabby-stans are attacking me on twitter now haha!
I wrote “karma restored” and a reply to me was “here comes the casual racists”. Gotta love it.
August 8, 2016 at 6:46 AM |
Aly’s vault:
August 8, 2016 at 6:47 AM |
I think almost all gymfans are rooting for Simone and against Gabby. How could they be racist at that point? Lol
August 8, 2016 at 6:48 AM
I feel like that’s the only reply they got… if you don’t like GD it has to be because of racism, not her attitude #logic
August 8, 2016 at 7:31 AM |
SO K.kardashian west send a good luck vid to simone..did she not realize it was a team event?
August 8, 2016 at 7:37 AM |
Gabby will have a broken leg she’s been hiding from USAG which is why she didn’t qualify
August 8, 2016 at 2:58 PM |
Now that one made me laugh. I’ll be waiting.
August 8, 2016 at 8:40 AM |
From Al Tratwig real Twitter account:
https://twitter.com/altrautwig/status/762444831289335808
August 8, 2016 at 8:42 AM |
As long as he keeps throwing shade at Nastia I want complain about him. He did it again tonight when he said something like , comebacks are hard you know about that Nastia.
August 8, 2016 at 9:15 AM
It is unusual that GTT you are defending Nastia.
August 8, 2016 at 9:19 AM
I didn’t defend hwr did I ? Read what I said again sure I didn’t defend her.
August 8, 2016 at 9:23 AM
Yeah I didn’t defend her I defended Al because he keeps throwing shade at her.
August 8, 2016 at 3:15 PM
LOL! My wife and I were laughing so hard when Creepy Uncle Al said that to Nastia! He’s such a numb nuts…but when he says stupid things like that to her I can’t help but like him a little. LOL.
August 8, 2016 at 8:52 AM |
Thank you for today! Off to bed 04.22:-)
August 8, 2016 at 8:56 AM |
It’s 9.25 here and I am falling asleep on the couch . Good Night.
August 8, 2016 at 8:58 AM
🙂
August 8, 2016 at 10:02 AM |
Nastia Warning
ok I know how we all feel about her but…Y would she do this
August 8, 2016 at 10:02 AM |
August 8, 2016 at 10:16 AM |
I would rather rent a presidential suite of 5-star hotel with this price.
August 8, 2016 at 11:17 AM |
Randomly realized that Aly received a higher e-score on bars than fan yilin, and the US qualified first into every event lol. Who would’ve thought
August 8, 2016 at 11:23 AM |
Fan Yilin is robbed. No words.
August 8, 2016 at 11:35 AM
August 8, 2016 at 11:37 AM
August 8, 2016 at 12:03 PM |
You know what just kills me? Because Gabby didn’t cry after not making AA, I’m suddenly seeing all these tweets talking about how she’s a much better sport than Jordyn Weiber and criticizing Jordyn for crying in 2012. It makes me sad for Jordyn all over again…Gabby’s already achieved her dream. There’s a huge difference between a 16-year-old at her first Olympics who feels this is her only shot for winning an Olympic AA medal, versus a 20-year-old at her second Olympics who’s already got a gold medal. Jordyn rallied so quickly and killed it in team finals. I can’t imagine being 16, being labeled as the next It-Girl and expected to make AA finals, and watching that dream crash to the ground on live international television. Cut the poor girl a break.
August 8, 2016 at 12:10 PM |
That narrative makes me so angry. Poor Jordyn.
In addition to what you mentioned, Gabby should/could have expected she wouldn’t get in. It was far more shocking with Jo. Jordyn worked for that AA while Gabby was given so many gifts.
God, thank god we didn’t have to witness Gabby in AA.
Just to cheer everyone, here is a gif of Mihai smacking Aly on the head after her mistake on beam. They seem to have such a great relationship.
August 8, 2016 at 12:32 PM
Exactly. EVERYBODY expected Jordyn to be in that AA final. She was the reigning World Champion. She’d won every AA event (with the exception of placing 2nd at trials) in years. It was shocking she didn’t qualify…anyone would’ve cried. But Gabby had little chance of making this AA, as pretty much everybody familiar with gymnastics knew. Totally different situation.
August 8, 2016 at 5:54 PM |
Gabby was already gifted the team spot and AA qualification spot. Many gymfans were angered with the privilege she got. She even doesn’t deserve those opportunities if Trials results did count fairly. If she was crying about that, it would be totally nonsense. The gymnasts who are more eligible to cry are Mylayla/Ashton/Lauire. I think she may understand.
August 9, 2016 at 1:38 AM
So true – that’s exactly why I really can’t tolerate her on any level. She continues to be rewarded for not working as hard as the alternates did and continue to do. The gold for team really should not be attributed at all to Gabby. …but it will be.
August 8, 2016 at 12:05 PM |
Finally watched NBC who made this the tragedy of poor Gabby “the most beloved gymnast of recent times” not being eligible for AA – despite scoring “the THIRD best score in the world”. Not one mention from anyone about London and Jordyn losing her opportunity to Gabby…and that JORDYN scored the THIRD best in the world, too.
August 8, 2016 at 1:29 PM |
I thought Jordyn was fourth, as Komova was somewhere in the top three with Gabby and Aly? I could be wrong though.
I too was surprised with Costas’s comment about Gabby being “one of the most beloved gymnasts of recent times.”
August 8, 2016 at 2:27 PM
My bad. You’re right – Komova actually qualified in 1st. I just get so caught up in the travesty of Gabby and the tragedy of Jordyn.
August 9, 2016 at 10:11 AM |
Then they should all be crying for Larisa Iordache. Bronze AA world champ, not qualified to the Olympics. I wonder what shape she is in at the moment. I bet she would have qualified for AA at least.
August 8, 2016 at 12:26 PM |
This is my opinion on Gabby’s lack of devastation.
I think, on a scale of 1-10 fucks to be given on making the AA, Gabby was coming in at about a 1.5. She knew that it was next to impossible. She was working out with Simone and Aly the last few weeks. She knew what they were capable of. They were not slacking off like her.
So why the big hub bub? To keep fans watching and her money flowing. Like its been said here repeatedly, she is the sole income of her family. I don’t think she wanted to be doing this but felt like she had no choice. I think at the beginning of her comeback, she was motivated. But certainly not in the last year.
Look at her resting bitch face. Gone are the smiles and frankly, gone is her grooming. She looked very nice in early 2015. Hair was nicely styled with ribbons, she wore lipstick and looked more serene. Now she’s messy looking-like it was an effort to even get out of bed.
USA is getting the team gold with or without her. She is coasting on their talent. Three of her 4 scores were thrown out. So, in the end, she can claim another gold medal and the accompanying adulation with minimal effort and keep the money flowing for a few more years. Clever plan.
August 8, 2016 at 7:42 PM |
I think this is 100% spot on. Good post.
August 9, 2016 at 1:39 AM |
Totally agree
August 8, 2016 at 12:36 PM |
Gabby seems relieved to me. Now she’s done having to live up to expectations. I think she’s the kind of gymnast who does best when there’s no pressure and no expectation to do well. I feel more charitable to her now that she’s not standing in the way of Aly’s success.
It makes me feel good that I don’t think Laurie would have qualified either. I feel like the two strongest Americans are moving forward. All three hit all four sets, and the top two came out on top. AND all 5 get to move on to event finals.
And Eythora qualified 7th with a fall! And Andrade in 3rd! Of course there were a few disappointments but all in all, it was a good day.
August 9, 2016 at 2:19 AM |
I felt the same way looking at Gabby. She did everything she could in qualifications and it just wasn’t enough. She was a good sport about not making it to the AA. I think she feels a weight lifted off her shoulders that she doesn’t have to try defend her title (which was never going to happen). And please don’t crucify me but her smile and reactions to last night seemed genuine. Which furthers my belief that her Mother and Steve Penny were pushing all this on her for money.
This was the best case scenario for the team put up. No one fell, the right two are going to AA finals and everyone made an individual final. And Gabby did her job as a bars “specialist”.
Realllly hoping Eythora has a great AA showing 😀
August 9, 2016 at 2:29 AM
I will crucify you if I want too;) but I didn’t find a thing she said remotely genuine last night. The smile was fake and the attitude changed because if she continued to act like a spoiled brat she would get no endorsements. She will be a back to back to back gold medalist regardless of what she contributes. Even Amanda Borden got an endorsement for hair in 1996. There is money to be made and a bad attitude won’t cut it. Watching NBC’S broadcast last night Gabby was always off to the side and only congratulated anyone when the camera was around. When everyone else said go team USA she didn’t say it. Sorry but she is even worse than Nastia. At least Nastia is Russian and has the dirty look to fall back on , Gabby doesnt.
August 9, 2016 at 4:42 AM
GTT, you’re not wrong about Gabby being a bad teammate. I don’t think anyone can argue differently. She’s ALWAYS off to the side, away from the other girls. She never roots them on.
I imagine it’s a cyclical phenomenon – Gabby behaves poorly, so the girls don’t like her, then when she is excluded, she becomes more and more isolated. It’s perfectly fine to be a loner, but she shouldn’t be surprised that she comes across as less likeable than any of the other four.
But I stick by my statement that I don’t care how she does as long as she doesn’t stand in the way of the success of a more deserving athlete. Maggie Nichols, Bailie Key, and Lauren Hernandez were too much to handle. Hopefully she’ll be done after this go-round and we won’t have to deal with her taking unearned places again.
August 9, 2016 at 9:36 AM |
I have never had a problem with Gabby overall, although I don’t really think she deserved a spot on this team. (And I am THRILLED Aly got the other spot.) That said, I think I agree–Gabby seemed pretty chill with not making AA finals, and I wonder if she’s feeling the pressure lift. She didn’t fail spectacularly, she did okay in quals, she just didn’t make the top two. Her pride is intact, now she can relax and help on Thursday and then try for a bars medal.
August 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM |
Speaking of Jordyn, I don’t know if anybody’s posted this, but she gave a pretty in-depth interview last week. Covers the ranch, Gabby, Aly, her 2012 experience, etc. Also talks about hitting puberty 4 months before the Olympics…what horrible timing.
http://www.theskatinglesson.com/tsl/perspective-a-conversation-with-jordyn-wieber
August 8, 2016 at 7:52 PM |
She confirmed that Marta and the judges at the ranch liked her connections. Wow.
August 9, 2016 at 1:39 AM
Which means she was set up to lose.
August 9, 2016 at 4:46 AM
She does seem at peace…but if there was a way to return to amateur status so she could compete in NCAA, she would do whatever it took to make that happen. And I think she would have thrived in that environment.
August 9, 2016 at 5:00 AM
Ok, men need to hire Marta after she retires.
August 9, 2016 at 5:09 AM
lol ILanchik!
August 8, 2016 at 8:13 PM |
Great read and a really in depth look at her experience. I’m happy for her. She is in a good place now and I think retirement was the right decision for her.
August 8, 2016 at 7:55 PM |
I hope that Aly continues also after the OG. Does anybody think she will?
And has she actually peaked … ?
I hope she goes for at least worlds 2017 (doing a Kyla version post OG)
August 8, 2016 at 10:31 PM |
I’m betting this is Aly’s swan song. At some point she will want to get on with her life. Maybe she will coach – I think she’d be fantastic in a role like that.
August 8, 2016 at 11:08 PM
Yes, unfortunately for me because I’ve loved Aly since she become elite, this will prob be her last meet. She has said in numerous interviews that since her first international assignment was in Brazil, it would be great to finish her career in Brazil too.
Of course, she can always change her mind but if she gets her AA medal (which I really hope she does), this will be it.
She would never do a Gabby type comeback (and Mihai wouldn’t let her) so I really hope she finishes on a high note, with an AA silver medal.
August 9, 2016 at 5:28 AM
Yeah this is what Aly came back for…no sense it continuing to train that hard for the next 4 years, and she of all people knows what it takes to train hard. She never once half assed her comeback. I’m sure this is her swansong, and how awesome would it be to see her on that AA podium, where she deserves.
NOT Gabby. I hope nobody wants to sponsor Gabby after this.
August 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM
Aly seems like she would be such a great coach, she really seems to have inspired her teammates and is really great at keeping the girls’ nerves in check and keeps them all motivated without being condescending or lording it all over them. I expect she will be attracted to a career with a little more pizzaz though, but let’s hope it’s not fashion because while she may like it I’m not sure it’s quite her forte lol.
August 8, 2016 at 9:13 PM |
Missed all the quals because of a family event. Not internet whatsoever for me, so thank you very much for the updates. It seems like a lot of things have gone crazy. I didn’t see all the things that happened with Laurie coming. Seda in the AA instead of Melnikova? Cata not doing AA after saying she was going to do so and, even more, not doing vault even for pride while Iordache was benched for her? Fan Yilin got bumped out of bars finals? And who is Shallon Olsen? What happened? I’ll try to see it all. If anyone is interested, the Spanish Public Television (RTVE) has uploaded all the subdivisions in its official website for public viewing: http://rio2016.rtve.es/video/discipline=ga/index.html
August 9, 2016 at 1:23 AM |
Thanks!!
August 9, 2016 at 1:43 AM |
Omg, I normally don’t bitch about Gymcastic but wholly gymcastic’s episode from last night is gross. “Gabby did her job, the judges didn’t.” I can’t believe how much shade they were throwing at Aly. Ugh. Sigh.
August 9, 2016 at 2:38 AM |
I just finished it. I had a feeling it would be that way but as soon as I heard her announce that had a guest on, Stefan, I knew it would be a Gabby stan fest. Stefan is apparently on Gabby’s tv show or does recaps of the episodes with Jess? I’m not sure because I don’t watch her show or listen to the recaps of it. After trials Jess was saying that Aly shouldn’t get to do AA because “Her bars don’t belong in an AA final.” Luckily all the other commentators were rallying for Aly but that’s probably why they weren’t on this episode because they didn’t share her opinion. Anyway I can’t believe they didn’t spend any time saying what a great job Aly did or how she’s accomplished this great feat. It was just that Gabby did her job and the judges didn’t. I guess they don’t see how far ahead Aly is in start value and how she has been so consistent since nationals. But Gabby should just be able to waltz in after three lack luster competitions and be awarded the AA spot for having one good day and a clean bar routine. Ugghhh.
August 9, 2016 at 5:07 AM
How obnoxious. It was bad after Champs too
August 9, 2016 at 5:31 AM |
They were actually trying to say Gabby deserved to be in the AA over Aly?
Give me a break – the fact Gabby was within half a point is sickening to me. If anything the judges were throwing Gabby major gifts. How did her bars all of a sudden go up to 15.8 when they were like 15.2 or 15.5, max, all season long? I didn’t see any improvement on them. Still labored.
Aly has an amanar, Gabby has a DTY.
Aly’s beam is better than Gabby, who can’t make her connections but still gets awarded for them.
Aly’s floor is leaps ahead of Gabby’s…how is this even an argument.
If anything the judges were not doing their jobs because they were clearly making it so that if Aly made one mistake at all, Gabby would have been in that AA.
August 9, 2016 at 7:27 AM
Flavia is going last on beam during EF and she qualified 3rd–I need her to get a beam medal so bad!!
August 9, 2016 at 10:17 AM
The only one who really pushed Gabby for AA over Aly was Jess O’Beirne. The rest of the GymCastic crew were like “Sure, Jan” about it and appeared to want Aly for AA.
Jessica always says that Aly is a 3 event gymnast because of her bars. Personally, I think the same “logic” could apply to Gabby with her shitty floor routine.
August 9, 2016 at 10:21 AM
It’s kind of like the Nastia and Shawn argument
Nastia is not and has never been an AA gymnast yet she has 5 medals and Shawn only has 4. The fact Nastia’s vaults was from 1992 and her floor had no back tumbling at all she code word her floor and they rewarded her for execution she didn’t actually have. It’s just messed up.
August 9, 2016 at 2:33 AM |
It seems none of the comments feel sorry for Gabby out of AA Finals. I hope those are not the 4-year fans.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/heartbreaking-reason-u-gymnast-gabby-132948134.html?nhp=1
August 9, 2016 at 4:17 AM |
reports..Flavia OUT of AA
August 9, 2016 at 4:20 AM |
Alexandrov pulling some shannigans.
If so, Barbosa will replace her.
August 9, 2016 at 4:23 AM |
Apparently wants her to concentrate on beam finals
August 9, 2016 at 4:27 AM
A journalist in Rio is reporting this was her choice. She wants to focus on beam.
Such a diff strategy given what Ukraine is pulling during team finals right now.
August 9, 2016 at 4:32 AM
What is Ukraine up to? I saw the athlete scratch highbar and was baffled. I also missed the first few rounds and missed the discussion.
Also, do you know who the commentators are if you’re watching the NBC stream?
August 9, 2016 at 4:36 AM
My NBC stream is Courtney, John and the third guy whose name I never remember.
Ukraine has only put up 2 on several events supposedly so they can use the final as “extra” practice. They knew they had no medal chances so they didn’t bother with a third.
August 9, 2016 at 4:59 AM
I am watching MAG team final in Spanish TV right now (if you want to watch it, it is free in the official webpage) and the commentator said that Ukraine thought they had no chance, so they were resting those gymnasts who had individual chances, as Ilanchik said, especially Verniaiev, who is being presented as Uchimura’s great rival for the gold. I think is a shame, though. They are representing their country and I think they should have presented full rotations, even if they prefer for their favored gymnasts to give watered down routine for them to be safer.
August 9, 2016 at 5:18 AM
Thanks to you both for the explanation of Ukraine. I too think it’s a shame. The 9th place team probably would have loved the chance to compete in team finals.
The third person commenting with John R and Courtney K is Jonathan Horton
And it’s over Japan rocked it!!!
August 9, 2016 at 5:20 AM
Russia in 2nd, beats China.
A one-event gymnast, Louis, falls off ph.
August 9, 2016 at 5:49 AM
It’s like stick it what Ukraine is doing, choosing an outcome of not getting a team medal. INteresting.
August 9, 2016 at 5:01 AM |
I just have to comment… I’ve been thinking a lot about the Gabby situation, and the comments on this board. I’ve been reading religiously since almost the beginning of the blog, and commenting only a little here and there. I was a gymnast and a coach (only optional levels, but at a powerhouse gym, as well as a L10 rated judge for a few years, although that was several years ago.) , and I LOVE GYMNASTICS. However, the Gabby hate hasn’t been sitting well with me.
Don’t get me wrong. I am no Gabby fan. I felt sick after Trials and wanted ANYONE else in that spot. However, the level of hatred and anger toward her here has started to bother me. Instead of fans being analytical and even a little emotionally involved, this feels like bullying now.
Again- I did NOT want her on the team. I don’t care for her.
However, SHE did not put herself on the team. It wasn’t her decision.
Then on Sunday she DID HER JOB.
If any other athlete outside of Simone or Aly got a 60+, hit 4/4, came in 3rd in the AA, and qualified to an event finals, we’d all say, “nice work.”
Since it was Gabby, it’s not good enough. Even though she didn’t unseat Aly (which is possibly why I’m feeling generous toward her now), she’s still the enemy. I really don’t get it.
So I guess my plea here- why do we have to be so ugly?
If you don’t like her, fine. But let’s move on.
She is on the team, she did good work on night 1, and everything turned out the way we hoped- Simone + Aly for the AA.
It just makes me feel discouraged the way the internet has ganged up on a teenager we haven’t even met. There are so many ugly things in the world- we don’t need to manufacture more ugliness.
OK, no more from me on this.
Thank you GTT for a great place for gym fans to discuss the latest- I really do appreciate this blog!
August 9, 2016 at 5:38 AM |
Look . It’s very simple . This place is what it and I am going to have an issue with anyone that knew what this place was when they go here whining because someone they piked was picked on. You knew what this place was when you signed up. God this is why I don’t allow knew people. As for Gabby she didn’t fall. That doesn’t mean she did her job or that someone else that EARNED the spot wouldn’t have done as well or better than she did. She only finished top 3 on ONE event. Mykayla who I think deserved the spot would have bettered her scores on vault and floor. Ragan would have killed her on beam and floor and Ashton would have beaten her on bars so why does Gabby get credit for getting an extra month to show up when every single alternate earned a place on this team over her
So no, she didn’t do her job unless you count the UB she hit which was then pretense to why she was allowed on this team. That position still should have been Kutchers. I’ll have more to say when I have time bit this is explanation now. Gabby didn’t put herself on this team but she accepted the position KNOWING she did not earn it when others did ao I’ll be and if she is going to be given credit for not falling. That doesn’t cut it and it doesn’t give her a free pass and never will.
August 9, 2016 at 6:15 AM
I know, that’s what kills me about this.
Gabby is getting a “free” unearned gold team medal (unless everyone falls like 2 times each).
And nobody can tell me GD deserved to go for the AA. I knew it the moment she was on the team she would be given that shot so to be marketed as “defending her title.”
It’s all BS.
August 9, 2016 at 10:30 AM
I have no issue with Gabby as a person (who, by the way, is an adult, not a teenager.. she’ll be 21 in December). I DO take issue with her coming back to the sport, after having been at the top of where any gymnast can be, not putting in 100% effort and half-assing her training, and knowingly taking away a sport from a gymnast who hasn’t had the opportunity to compete at the Olympic level and has put in everything into their training to earn on a spot on the team, just because of her name. Gabby isn’t an idiot, she knows her name got her a spot on the team. Add in the reality tv show, and it reallllly isn’t a good look overall.
Why should everyone now jump up and down praising Gabby for doing her job now? She should have been doing it all along. No one else gets singled out for doing their job for their Olympic team. It’s just the expectation that they do.
However, my disdain is PRIMARILY directed at USAGym, Steve Penny and Martha for allowing this to happen, and for prioritising money over fairness, and having inconsistent expectations for their gymnasts. Gabby is the face of their shitty decision-making.
I truly wish her well for the future. I hope she forges her own path and disentangles herself from her family who appear to use Gabby as their personal moneymaker, and I hope that she will truly be supportive of her teammates in the days ahead.
August 9, 2016 at 10:21 PM
Yes times 10K. Gabby has been the recipient of score gifts and therefore experiences that should have gone to someone else who hasn’t slacked off. She is toxic and…lazy and worse yet – feels entitled but that’s due in no small part to Marta.
August 9, 2016 at 5:45 AM |
I get where you are coming from because all of us are so angry but in no way would I say these comments are “bullying” when it comes to the Gabby issue. I think everyone here is bemoaning the unfairness of the whole situation, even though this type of crap happens every 4 years. The fact it was super obvious didn’t help either.
If anything, USAG/Marta are to blame more than Gabby herself, and I think most of us see it that way. It also doesn’t help that Gabby doesn’t even come off humble about it; she acts entitled. That’s what makes it even harder to take – especially when you consider the girls left behind who actually worked hard to deserve an Olympic spot. The sad fact of the matter is that they were never going to get that Olympic spot come hell or high water; Marta (like always) had her team in mind before nationals most likely.
I called it weeks ago too that Gabby would be taking someone’s AA spot for the sake of having a shot to “defend her title.” It just was in the cards. Again, this is USAG/Marta’s fault.
August 9, 2016 at 6:00 AM
So Gabby gets a second gold medal for 1 bar routine that would have been irrelevant if Ashton who deserved the spot was on this team but we’re the bad guys for pointing it out. I love this logic . Lol
August 9, 2016 at 6:02 AM
It’s not bullying. I mean Andrea Joyce had to cut gabby off when gabby repeated three times it was the journey last night, and yes gabby it’s a journey, but tbh Aly had the bar routine of her life, Aly outscored gabby on 2/4 tied on beam and lost on bars. In boxing that’s a win for Aly. It’s unfortunate that rules out in place to help upstart teams and keep Romania from having a podium sweep are now hurting the US but it’s reality. She did her job no major mistakes. If Gabby still had an amanar, like she did in 2012 she might have been in the fight but she chose not to train the Amanar for whatever reason. I will give her this she put up a solid score able backstop routine with a lot of difficulty on every event. But like Mihai told Aly, you have to get back to where you were and then improve, get more skills. How much do you think Aly worked on her Amanar? Her floor score is higher than what she won with in London. She improved bars and beam also. Gabby did not get back to her same level as 2012 or go past it. It’s unfortunate she made other choices that didn’t involve training. I actually for a second felt sorry for her yesterday watching her she smiled after her bar set, and it’s the best routine I’ve seen her do all year. She looks (after watching things a few times) like someone with a major undiagnosed back problem, who didn’t want to hear what docs were telling her and just wanted to make it through. She looks like she’s in a lot of pain, and the grumpy look is pain management. Hey I was right about Lauries injury!!! THis is historic, I don’t think there’s ever been a team where every member made an EF. Not in the two per country era anyway so this is a depth to celebrate. Simones level of gymnastics has forced all the US girls to be better and do better, because there was only one spot available. And that’s a good thing!!
August 9, 2016 at 6:19 AM
The US voted in favor of the 2 per Country rule and now whine about it. Hypocrites
August 9, 2016 at 6:17 AM
Agreed. From what I’ve read (at least here) I haven’t come across anything that I would consider “bullying” (frankly I think things have gotten to the point, and I’m not speaking of here but just in general, where that term is used far too frequently. And I say that as someone with a background in psych). I think the way the judging was going (and the differences across the different subdivisions) had a lot people that much more emotional and riled up. But even then a lot of what I’ve seen has been directed more towards the *decision* to have Gabby complete AA as opposed to being directed towards Gabby herself (if that makes any sense).
August 9, 2016 at 6:06 AM |
And please don’t tell anyone on this blog to move on. No one has to move on about any issue of this sport unless I tell them too. It’s a huge pet peeve of mine when people tell others what they have the right to say.
August 9, 2016 at 6:39 AM |
I think what Allie is saying (?) is, it is absolutely ok to point out an attitude that comes across not directly inspiring and open (and we all know that we are struggling with something when we are not able to be authentic happy, calm, honest etc) but over time it is easy to personify instead of keeping the eye on the core of the problem which is based on fear, money, politics etc. Not on Gabby as a person.
I recall many on this blog pointing to the core of the problem.
This blog seems to be a room for discussion, on both happy days and a sad days. But now and then it can be a good reminder to ask ourself in what way do we choose to express ourselves and what do we choose to focus on, over time.
Sorry if I got you all wrong Allie 🙂
As I see it it is unfortunate that they named the whole team at trials when the depth is so great. It would at least be smarter to allow more gymnasts come to the last camp, and then make a final decision there, like a filmed mini trial. And that Martha etc are able to clearly argue for the final decision of the team. And if they are not why not state that money and politics are also an important part of the play.
August 9, 2016 at 6:46 AM
You might have a point H about Alli’s opinion if this blog was say IG magazine. They own a business and their message board should have rules for the betterment of their paying customers but this is a blog , a blog that I created so the truth could be pointed out as much as I feel like pointing it out . I still bitch about the AA ‘s from the 88 and 92 Olympics so telling me or anyone to get over it doesn’t bode well 🙂
August 9, 2016 at 6:54 AM
I know 😉
Love you though:-)
August 9, 2016 at 6:25 PM
Hi! I didn’t mean to chastise anyone- that wasn’t my intent at all. H is correct and did a better job articulating- thanks, H.
August 9, 2016 at 5:24 AM |
Bullying? Wow. We have become a nation of complete wimps if talking about something unfair and wrong in addition to noticing an entitled attitude and poor sportsmanship is bullying. No one is saying this to her in person or stupid social media. We’re discussing it here.
As far as her results not being “good enough? ” That’s the FIG decision.
August 9, 2016 at 5:54 AM |
True..that
August 9, 2016 at 3:55 PM |
Yup.
August 9, 2016 at 10:19 PM |
Yup 3rd.
August 10, 2016 at 12:02 AM |
GTT- this is long and personal, If you feel it is not appropriate, I understand if you delete it.
My reaction to the bullying comment stems from having been horribly bullied for 6 years ages 12-18 until I was able to leave for college. It was a true nightmare. Emotionally and physically. Cruel notes passed to me in class right in front of the teachers saying I should be dead, things written on my locker, told to my face how ugly they thought I was, spit on in the restrooms, at age 14, 3 guys pulled me behind a school building, told me next time they’d rape me, then threatened to kill me if I told. I believed them. These guys burned down part of our junior high with zero consequences. I was scared and depressed.
This was the early 80s. The term bullying did not exist and it was definitely not applied to each and everything that happened or was said that someone did not agree with. It was considered part of growing up and was told it was I who needed to develop a thicker skin. I told a high school counselor once who sympathized but said that the boys had powerful parents and that their hands were tied. I was on my own.
Kids today have it worse with social media. I read these stories of these teens who commit or attempt suicide because of the irrational hate that comes at them 24/7 online. It makes me so sad imaging the pain that made them believe that they wouldn’t ever find relief and feel safe again. .
This is my story. I was not a 20 year old multi-millionaire from a parasitic family who has probably helped themselves to her fortune and now find themself worrying about maintaining their lifestyle. I was a 12 year old from a good solidly middle class white collar family who tried to help but couldn’t. I never told them the really awful stuff due to fear of retaliation.That’s bullying. Talking about an adult on a blog who flaunts her past success and expects everything handed to her is not.
And for my last words, may I say that I recall these conversations nearly verbatim when Nastia trained for about 2 weeks before attempting to make the 2012 team. She kept getting moved to the next step in the qualifying process although Shawn Johnson and Chellsie Memmell who did train were told to get lost. There was a lot of disgust over the free passes and injustices. And also Nastia’s entitled attitude and bitchy demeanor. Telling reporters that she had only been training a few weeks. What a slap in the face to those who put their hearts and souls into it. Sound familiar?
Thank you all who took the time to read my long post!
August 10, 2016 at 12:26 AM
I feel for what you went through as a child. It’s horrible to be bullied and kids are assholes. Everyone has been bullied at one time or another. When you personally are said things to your face that is bullying but random comments on a blog is fair play as far as I am concerned. If Gabby wanted to read this blog that is her right but if she does she better be prepared for honest opinions amd frank talk because it’s not my job to pump her ego. This blog is for fans not gymnasts and their parents which is why I don’t promote this place on twitter or Facebook. I don’t want to be friends with these gymnasts. This blog is for the fans. We all know Simone’s coach has posted here. I have has several gymnasts mothers in the past also try and post here but I let it be known we will not sugar coat what is said. I love the triple twist girls but they spend a lot of time on twitter talking to the gymnasts and that is their right but I don’t feel comfortable doing that. Eventually I will offend someone so I keep my blog gymnast free. Sure I would probably let a gymnast post here if they wanted but they would be warned before hand that the ass kissing and Vanessa Atler at Gymn.com like would not be tolerated.
August 10, 2016 at 12:30 AM
I wouldn’t call what you went through bullying at all I would call it assault. Once those boys put their hands on you their ass’s should have been put in jail. What a horrible thing to go through and even worse that nothing could be done about it.
August 9, 2016 at 5:26 AM |
Rando,m..Horton needs to wear clothes that give him a neck..
August 9, 2016 at 5:45 AM |
Fifth again LMFAO!!!! DOnnell should be there over Brooks!!! THis is what they get for having their chosen people!!! Two Olympics for Mikluak and I’d bet zero medals!!!
August 9, 2016 at 6:40 AM |
Yea the men finished right where I thought they would from the moment the team was announced.
Probably Leyva, at alternate, will end up with the only medal again…
August 9, 2016 at 7:24 AM
Leyva might get both pbars and high bar, dalton and Naddour may medal also, but Brooks was just a golden boy waste of space like bozo. Akash would have been a better pick!!! But what they did to donnell… Ridiculous. I just want mikulak to go away and get 9th AA and for Brooks to get like 22nd
August 9, 2016 at 10:54 AM
P-Bars is going to be super tough…with Oleg Verniaev and the two Chinese up around 16 with hits, the medals are theirs to lose.
August 9, 2016 at 6:58 AM |
Women’s line-up is out. Gabby is only doing bars. Simone is doing AA.
How stupid.
August 9, 2016 at 7:25 AM |
Totally stupid. Laurie was supposed to do bars to rest Simone. And if Ashton was in there we’d have a better TF score
August 9, 2016 at 7:04 AM |
I am not able to watch reply by NBC olympics streams. If anyone have links to Aly’s UB, Musta, Ferrari and Laurie’s floor it is most appreciated.
Dream: Ferrari floor medal, Ponor beam medal, Aly everything that glitters:-)
Hypothetically: If Simone or Laurie for some unlikely reason dont do beam final, would both Aly and Gabby then do beam final? They got the same e- and d- score, so it then would be 9 in beam final?
August 9, 2016 at 7:06 AM |
Everyone keeps saying Aly and it have the same d and e score but I could have sworn NBC said Aly had a 6.5 and Gabby for a 6.3. Execution score wins. If b96 they might add all judges scores in for decision
August 9, 2016 at 7:08 AM
I think that that’s Aly’s max D score…she was credited the same as GD last night.
August 9, 2016 at 7:11 AM
That is what the NBC ap put up last night when they showed Aly’s score. It said 6.5.
August 9, 2016 at 7:29 AM
In the Rio app results Aly is credit with 6.3, the same as Gabby. She prob didn’t get the layout credit
August 9, 2016 at 7:07 AM |
I believe I read somewhere that in this case, the federation picks the athlete to compete. So in the event that one of the two US qualifiers on beam could not compete, it would be up to Marta who to put in since Aly and Gabby had the same D and E scores.
August 9, 2016 at 7:21 AM
No it’s not up to the federation. It would go to the next highest score.
August 9, 2016 at 7:31 AM
so then they bring in all the judges score and decide from there … and if it happens to be the same, I guess 9 it is. At least they cannot take out the present number 8?
August 9, 2016 at 9:17 AM
Interesting question, who is two per countried out an event final when the score is exactly he same? Maybe the federation does choose, or they eliminate the next lowest or highest e score. Let me know if you find a precedent or a rule H
August 9, 2016 at 9:23 AM
I always thought they would count all scores (instead of dropping lowest and highest) and then whoever ends with higher E will go. Isn’t that what happened to Nastia in 2008 bar final?
August 9, 2016 at 2:28 PM |
H, I don’t know about YouTube, but if you don’t mind the Spanish comments, RTVE have uploaded all the subdivision for public viewing. You can see all of them here: http://rio2016.rtve.es/video/discipline=ga/index.html
August 9, 2016 at 5:53 PM
Thank you. I tried, but the main stream does not show the routines I was searching for and well .. my Spanish is not good so I didn’t find i.e. only beam stream etc ?
August 9, 2016 at 8:08 AM |
So a male Netherland gymnast–Yuri van Grlder is kicked out and sent back home by his federation. He made an EF.
I guess for sneaking out and getting drunk outside the village.
August 9, 2016 at 3:13 PM |
He’s an idiot. He already served a 2 year suspension for cocaine.
August 9, 2016 at 6:10 PM |
Aly’s bars for those who haven’t seen it;
http://ikttruth.tumblr.com/post/148625633887/sarahtude-mustafinesse-aly-raisman-uneven
August 9, 2016 at 10:52 PM |
Regarding ridiculous Al…. Missy Marlowe just posted this on FB:
gym fans, just remember that Al Trautwig was also the crass ass that made a big deal out of my parents at Olympic Trials “Mother on one side of the arena, Father on the other, divorced since she was 2″……..please. Stupid is as stupid does. Can’t change it. My mom fired off a letter to NBC and that was 28 years ago.
August 10, 2016 at 12:07 AM |
He sure is a crass one. Wonder why NBC finds him so valuable. He’s a loose cannon