2016 Olympic Podium training. Thursday, August 4th

NBCOlympics will show the US Live.


I don’t have a link but if you go to the Triple Twist twitter account they are putting up quotes from a Marta article in IG that is hilarious.

Allegedly the American Cup judges didn’t give Skinner credit for her Cheng ( You mean the judges USAG chooses to send to their meet?) She also is making every excuse under the sun to justify Gabby being on this team and the lies Gabby’s mother told about the coaching situation which pretty much proves Marta is a big ******* liar. Marta even mentions that she only wanted Gabby for the alternate at last years worlds yet she still got 2nd in the AA . Which never explains how she ACTUALLY made the team?

Isn’t it funny Mykayla “didn’t get credit for her Cheng yet she started competing that vault first all year? Marta just proved she is every bit as much an asshole and Steve Penny and will lie to protect her lies at any cost. I seem to remember reading somewhere that Marta told Mykayla to compete that vault first but I don’t remember where.


253 Responses to “2016 Olympic Podium training. Thursday, August 4th”

  1. Mim Says:

    Happy blog anniversary GTT. Thanks for keeping this little community going, it is fantastic having a place to vent with likeminded folk! 🙂

    You’re not the only one who remembers that Martha apparently told Mykayla to put her Cheng first. A bunch of people on Twitter remember the tv commentators at 2015 SCAM said her vault order was Martha’s decision .. Will have to go back to see if that’s right. So shady if it’s true but what’s new.

    Was happy to see Larisa was potentially training with the USA alternates!

    All the talk of Gabby and Christian’s “chemistry” has me side-eye-ing them..

  2. gymmom2 Says:

    You heard that comment during the commentary. Our illustrious commentator said he mentioned to Marta that he thought her Cheng looked better and she should do it first and Marta told him “that’s exactly what I told her” and so in Day 2 of trials she did.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Marta should remember her lies

      • tulip Says:

        You’d think that as lying, manipulating and selfserving as Marta is, it would be in her best interest to remember the crap that She says. Then again, she has absolute power so it doesn’t really matter.

  3. JAS4 Says:

    What time does podium training start?

  4. JAS4 Says:

    Kenzo’s Yurchenko 3.5
    The landing is a little scary but over all it’s not bad I think it would help if he got a little more height on the block before twisting it kind of looks like he twist on to the table kind of how Gabby and Shawn and a few others did on their Amanars.

  5. JAS4 Says:
  6. Exgymgurl Says:

    They had Tara lipinski interview Simone. I guess Nastia ran out of questions.

  7. Exgymgurl Says:

    There isn’t a link to PT it’s on the NBC app or NBC.com if you have a cable subscription. You can watch the guys from today not let Leyva compete AA to make sure their chosen two Brooks / mikulak make aa finals. It’s like they are punishing Leyva for qualifying ahead of bozo to aa their chosen boy in 2012, and so instead of reworking lineups for quals they are just letting Leyva compete where bozo would have competed. I hope Leyva quals to high bar and pbars and is the only men’s medalist. Mikulak is like Ryan locate without any medals. Lochte dyed his hair blue and it looks grey. Mikulak had a flag shaved into the side of his head.
    Again. I hate gymnastics. Everything that comes out of Marta’s mouth is BS. Penny has four lady professionals. Floridas recruiting is imploding. Rhonda Faehn must be cackling with glee that Florida will not win another NCAA title in the near future.

    • Ss Says:

      From a team stand point it makes sense that the original alternate would not do AA, even though I agree that it seems suspect. But I agree with you that there is a very good chance Levya will be the men’s only medalist which will pretty much confirm he shouldn’t have be left off the team to begin with. I hope I’m wrong, but this men’s team just seems destined to be a solid 5th with no medals anywhere.
      Oh well at least the women will dominate.

    • Mim Says:

      Yeah I never really understood the allure of Florida to be honest. In the short time NCAA Gym has been on my radar, it seemed like Georgia was the place to be, maybe somewhere else, then Florida.. I wonder which will get all the recruits next. Bama, LSU or the Sooners maybe? Or maybe UCLA with having Kyla, Kocian and almost having Simone on the team will be a draw card for UCLA. Florida has lost Gaskins, Locklear, Laurie, booted out Peyton and likely losing Bailie, maybe Alyssa and Jazzy (now that her bff won’t be competing for Florida)… I find college recruiting quite interesting!

      • gymnerd Says:

        What happened with Gaskins and Florida?

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        She changed her commitment after Rhonda left. One thing I don’t think this auburn coach / elite judge gets is that all the elite parents talk. Just like the girls do.

  8. Guest Says:

    I thought it is hilarious.

  9. Exgymgurl Says:

    No one outside of the gymternet remembers Nastia… LMAO!!!

  10. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Hong attempted the TTY but it seems she missed it. Chuso missed her Produnova too.

  11. JAS4 Says:


    • tulip Says:

      NPR is doing a big story on this as we speak. Me thinks Steve Penny will lose his job and USAG will pay individual and state, federal fines and lawsuit settlements.

      Just talked to a friend in the Indiana Attorney General office who I’ve known forever. Says this article may be news to the public but it’s something that they have been “looking at closely.” Which sounds to me like the sh!t will hit the fan.

      Remember Jared from Subway and his disgusting arrest? Well his sharing “material” by email is how they got to Sharp, according to my friend. And it was the Feds, not state and definitely NOT USAG reporting Sharp, who brought him down.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Do they know what Marta and Liukin did to Wofford or is the only abuse that matters have to be physical ?

  12. Ilanchik20 Says:

    Aliya (supposedly) looked better in podium than usual. That’s good news.

    China looked rough.

  13. Ilanchik20 Says:

    Skinner on beam

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      Okay so I wish skinner had left her coach like two years ago if rybacki can clean her up this much in a month

  14. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Paseka has done her vaults, so I suppose she is okay. Russia’s Federation said that they would announce if she could compete or not on August 3rd, but nobody said anything yesterday. She seems allright today, though.

  15. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    There are some videos on Instagram! Here is Musty’s release on UB: https://www.instagram.com/p/BIsYL_Eh9Hp/

  16. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Musty’s beam: https://www.instagram.com/p/BIsPSO0Bf8q/

  17. H Says:

    here are some videos (low quality) .

  18. Exgymgurl Says:

    Amy Norman said on Twitter everyone is doing everything today and lineups aren’t decided yet #sure #martabs. Because Marta runs pt as a rehearsal for competition at least the first time through routines, and would die if the girls didn’t use the whole time and sat around like the guys do. Can’t wait to see if it looks like lineups are set.

  19. Bess Says:

    So there is no where to watch non US podium training, right?

  20. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Matthew Ragsdale said that with the current connection and dismount, Aliya’s bars would have a 6.8 D-Score.

  21. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    And Dipa landed her Produnova.

  22. G Says:

    From Simone’s snap chat, the podium leo’s are red and heavily rhinestoned. I think hotpinknation is over lol

    • Cupquaked Says:

      Under Armour says all the USA olympic leos for men & women will be RWB and feature a design variation of our flag. So no pink, purple, etc this year. Thank god.

  23. Bess Says:

    I hat GD’s pass with the stupid tuck at the end…she can’t seriously get that connection?!?!

    • Gymbee Says:

      Me too!! It’s so ugly! It looks like an afterthought, like she forgot.

      Btw – what is Bela’s role in USAG?

    • exgymgurl Says:

      Bela makes the donuts talks to NBC. Says what marta wont say and makes pronouncements.

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        Looks like Laurie is out of AA unless something changes.

        Aly just hit her set.

  24. Cupquaked Says:

    How much you want to bet everyone does AA in podium training? When Gabby was named to the team there was so much backlash from fans. I bet they might want to minimize the negative publicity and not reveal who is doing the AA until actual qualifications. Marta could also be using this as a way to keep playing her mind games with the girls…anyone can do the AA, no one is a lock, etc, etc

    • Ilanchik20 Says:

      Amy on Twitter today said the line-ups are random today and everyone is doing d writhing. She said the line-ups will be decided later. Funny.

      We won’t know for sure till Sat prob when she has to submit the line-ups.

      • exgymgurl Says:

        not true. That has to be the vault line up and the floor line up.

  25. Gymnast41 Says:

    Gabby looks pissed and like she’s miserable to be there. And why is she here?

    • gymnerd Says:

      A coach friend of mine hears that Fatalie has spent all her money, and Gabby has been sent in order to replenish the family bank account.

  26. Gymbee Says:

    Gabby seriously couldn’t look less motivated and bored.
    She’s sitting slumped over looking miserable. At least the others are chatting and either stretching or standing she’s just there with her sour mug. Motivating a nation.

    • Melanie Says:

      I just snorted at this.

    • Sainabou Nyang Says:

      If the AA is Simone, Gabby, and Aly and Aly is standing up her Amanar, I could see Gabby being pushed out. She only outscores Aly on Bars right now. With actual correct scoring from intl judges Aly can clear a low to mid 15 on her 3 best events with hit sets. Gabby only two. Even Alys fugly amanar can get a 15.4-15.5.

  27. Ilanchik20 Says:

    Two (mostly) stuck amanars for Aly.

    Simone stuck hers too

    • exgymgurl Says:

      Best Smile from Aly ever. She knows it too. The line up is not random. they are warming up randomly. But Laurie, Gabby Aly Simone is the lineup. I missed floor :-/ Rumor has Laurie sitting bars in prelims and Aly Gabby and Simone fighting it out for AA qual.

  28. H Says:

    Aly stuck her two amanar:-)

    • Gymbee Says:

      And even got a hug from Marta! I wonder if she will let her do AA. She seemed happy. That has to be a good sign! Maybe.

  29. exgymgurl Says:

    NBC keeps showing valentina…. watching TEAM USA

  30. exgymgurl Says:

    Rumor is that Laurie got bounced from AA. What was the order they went through floor? Looked like Gabby Laurie Simone Aly. then Kocian went as alternate. If that’s the lineup Aly is getting a boost from being last and Gabby stuffed first. LMFAO if she gets wiebered in the lineups 🙂 Cant wait to see where she goes up on beam

  31. exgymgurl Says:

    Okay so if you believe the walkover and ALy knows what this signals to her fans, they walked to bars and presented Aly Simone Gabby Madison with Laurie in the back, and that means :-)))))) I am now Aly Raismans biggest fan and praying she beats Gabby for an AA qual spot

  32. Ilanchik20 Says:

    Gabby missed some connections. And was spotted by a coach on a transition.

  33. exgymgurl Says:

    Gabby snapped the bar on her DLO dismount. she also needed spot low to high transition.

  34. Gymbee Says:

    Thanks guys for reporting! I was booted out of the free NBC 30 minutes.

  35. exgymgurl Says:

    Laurie knows she isn’t doing bars, that wasn’t even close to polished

    • Cupquaked Says:

      That was the warm-up.

      • exgymgurl Says:

        Both routines she did had major leg separation

      • Cupquaked Says:

        I know :/ So many leg separations. I hope she sticks around for 2020. Or takes a break and comes back. She deserves to compete in the AA. But Aly definitely deserved it this time. Her bars were awesome! So happy for her! 😀

        The more people that get pushed out of competing the more I really start to just hate GD. She took spots from Jordyn, Kyla, Bailie, MyKayla, and now Laurie. I hope all those girls realize they are miles ahead of this subpar olympian.

  36. exgymgurl Says:

    Laurie didn’t even salute beginning or end of her first bars, and they told her “plenty of time you don’t need to rush” Marta just said best work to Aly. Aly knows every routine counts and got it done warm up and the one that Marta is counting.

    • Gymbee Says:

      I’m sitting here grinning like an idiot. Thanks so much! So happy for Aly! Haha whenever I don’t have access to see these things I always feel like Laura Ingalls on the prairie just waiting for a letter.

  37. exgymgurl Says:

    Aly is done with barsgrips off… 🙂 Gabbys bar routine missed a bunch of handstands barely. Marta went over and said handstands to gabby…. hahaha I could have sworn it was handstands not so good.

  38. dianajc99 Says:

    Wow, Aly’s bars look better than Lauries.didn’t see that comming

  39. exgymgurl Says:

    Laurie second routine. Massive leg separations. Laurie is not going on bars, Only simone and Kocian and Laurie are going a third time half routine from simone, she must have seen / felt something off
    kocian is redoing the second part of ther routine to dismount stuck. They look amazing except laurie and gabby on bars. I think laurie hasn’t focused on it at all. Kocian up to work on something else

  40. exgymgurl Says:

    Okay so Lauries full bar routines had major leg separations. Then she went up the third time and and just did a skill to dismount. No doubt Aly has the AA spot.

  41. exgymgurl Says:

    I doubt Gabby makes Bar finals. I can name 10 people with better routines. On a bad day. 2 Russians 2 Chinese, Kocian, 2 UK, and a german, maybe Andrade she looked amazing

  42. exgymgurl Says:

    they are letting laurie go up third on beam and aly is going second to get her qualified to beam finals. That’s actually a good trade for Aly. beam order is gabby aly laurie simone

    • Gymbee Says:

      To get Laurie qualified to beam finals?

    • Ilanchik20 Says:

      Hopefully that means Gabby is low-balled on beam or at least scored normally for a change.

      • Uglyfatkid Says:

        Low ball would imply that she could stay on the beam. 🙂 I’m still so pissed about trials.

        And what about this Madison nonsense? Didn’t NBC say they would use HER instead of Gabby on beam? That Gabby would only be used for beam now? What bullshit! I hate all of these people.

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        Right? I can’t believe Gabby gets to do beam. Sigh.

        There is change.org petition to get Laurie to do AA haha

  43. Cupquaked Says:

    Hearing someone in the background with Phantom of the Opera as their FX music. I miss Kyla :((((

  44. SuperFran Says:

    Thanks for all the updates guys. It SUCKS not being able to watch podium training.

  45. exgymgurl Says:

    Yep I’m thinking that it gives Laurie a better chance at beam finals, although she was more shaky than Aly. Good from both of them. Gabbys beam set is like missing all of the connection and Madison looked better at Trials than she does here. I would say beam final is a dog fight between Aly and Laurie.for the second qual spot, I missed simones beam. they are all going again ful routines on beam.

  46. exgymgurl Says:

    Gabby second time through shaky on back ful one legged the landing. l, shaky on front flip landing. gabby did everything but a real dismount. marta really liked that but…

  47. exgymgurl Says:

    Aly much better second time through no wobbles, hop on Patterson, other than that clean as spring air. Laurie, almost off on her second back handspring. At least four little balance checks, tiny and shes covering well hop back on dismount

  48. exgymgurl Says:

    Simone hand down on front with a full Simone went with a non dismount. Not gonna comment on Kocian. Simone doesn’t look happy with that.

  49. exgymgurl Says:

    Simone is up with ten seconds left in the rotation to do a real dismount

  50. Cupquaked Says:

    The. weird. chanting. 😒

  51. exgymgurl Says:

    So Overall Aly looked best which gives me a lot of hope. Simone looked great everywhere but beam Kocian looks amazing on bars. I’m not counting her other three “events” Laurie looks like she has nerves and hasn’t trained bars. Honestly now that the Aly vs Laurie question got answered, I’m happy. At least Aly has a shot.

  52. dianajc99 Says:

    Nastia Warning

    what is she selling?

  53. H Says:

    Aly looked great. Impressed with her UB and vault. Didn’t see floor, how did they all look?

    I think Aly connect the first punch front -leap on her second beam routine?

  54. dianajc99 Says:


    This just turned up in my feed.
    Y is USA gym not paying for the trips to texas.

    • Ilanchik20 Says:

      They only pay for national team members. And she isn’t on the national team.

      • dianajc99 Says:

        but I’m assuming she has been part of the developmental program. who pays for that?

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        Gymnasts themselves. USAG only pays if you are on a national team. Each national team member gets a attend that includes airfare allowance but if you are not on a national team, you pay yourself.

        Unfair, certainly.

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      Really sad. Just incredibly sad. And gabby is helping her at all ?

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        I doubt Gabby is helping. But the gym did give Shilese a scholarship for fees.

      • aerial Says:

        Another random question. What’s the word from Excalibur? Anyone ever ask them if she repaid her fees? It was such a scandal and then she (unfortunately) made it “so big” by winning in London that I’m surprised I never heard of it again. Unless I missed it.
        Or is this one of the reasons so many gyms didn’t want to take her on. And, if so, you’d think that would encourage her to finally pay them… she seems conscienceless if not.

  55. H Says:

    Do they send replay of Pt on NBC ?

  56. dianajc99 Says:

    Random question..Did Aly ever have a 2nd vault?

  57. dianajc99 Says:

    Just read USA Gym’s rebuttal to the INDY Star. they only specifically called out Sharp.. who is from INDY..so throwing shade at them.

  58. H Says:

    Anyone red the New York Times article about US WAG “amount of bling bling” on leotards 2008 vs 2016?

  59. Melanie Says:

    Maybe it was just me, but I thought Gabby’s bars looked improved in podium training…her handstands were not off. At least from the angle that NBC is showing, she looked pretty dead on. Slow and labored, definitely, but more precise than during Trials.

  60. Melissa Says:

    According to the ESPN alert I just got Laurie “not likely” to compete in the AA. To quote “this what the team needs” …you guys!! GO ALY!!

  61. Ilanchik20 Says:

    Maggie Haney not so pc about Laurie most likely not doing AA. Props for speaking up but I can’t imagine this being good for Laurie.


    • gymtruthteller Says:

      They better not make this about Aly because it’s all about Gabby being in this team. If she was at home and Skinner was here like it should be this would not be an issue. Aly beat Laurie at Nationals and a meet earlier this year so her getting the AA is justified and lests be real Hernandez was overscored at trials big time.

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        Exactly! Except most of the press on this far is saying is that the decision is between Aly and Laurie. Maggie basically said it comes down to experience, essentially downplaying Aly as a legitimate AA’er. I’m starting to get pissed slowly.

        Yet, Aly is better now than she was in 2012 unlike some others. But somehow this is her fault. Ugh.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Considering how ugh better Aly looked today than Laurie , Maggie might want to be quiet. Not that I think she sounded bad she sounded just bitter but unless she is going to a Gabby she needs to be quiet.

      • Tortuga Says:

        I don’t think Maggie blames it on Aly. I think the whole team knows Gabby is there because of politics and would get a shot at AA no matter what. So it was always between Aly and Laurie when it shouldn’t have been. I have to say I’m so relieved it looks like Aly is doing AA and is still peaking beautifully. I think she’s got this in the bag this time.

      • Gymbee Says:

        That sucks. In 2012 people were saying that Aly “took”Jordyn’s place and now people are hinting she “took” Laurie’s?! Poor Aly. She earned these places, she doesn’t need to hear she took someone’s place when we know who the actual person who took it is.

    • SS Says:

      She’s already on the team and it sounds like they know she isn’t doing AA so I don’t think it will hurt Laurie but it makes Maggie look bad. I totally get why she feels that way but there’s no point in saying it to media.

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      BTW this doesn’t help Laurie at all, Maggie Haney taking this to the press, in hope something will change. Even al fong keeps his mouth shut during competitions.

    • onelifeonejourneyonealex Says:

      Frankly I agree with her. Laurie deserves the third AA attempt in qualifications. She’s earned it. Gabby sure as fuck has done nothing to deserve it AT ALL. I’m fine with it being Simone and Aly in the AA final but I think Laurie should be able to fight for it.

      Unfortunately, Gabby the Insufferable Twatwaffle is a “bar worker” (albeit a super shitty one lately), so they won’t give it to Laurie.

      Ugh the fact that she was brought along at all infuriates me.

  62. Ilanchik20 Says:

    Oh and I just realized that based on the line-up, and how Laurie looked on bars, Simone is most likely doing bars in TF.

    So much for “Skinner can’t go case we want give Simone a break.”

    Cute, really, haha.

    • JAS4 Says:

      Also I just saw someone on Tumblr that said people criticizing Gabby’s attitude were being misogynistic and racists. How is saying someone has a bad attitude either of those things?

      • JAS4 Says:

        On of the replies to that same Tumblr comment said that if you’re still bitter about Gabby being on the team then your racism is showing. I just don’t see how not wanting Gabby on the team because there were others that performed better is being racist.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        The whole racist card is so overused anymore. I feel like before Obama, people weren’t so hyped up to point out others as being “racist” when it came to anyone throwing shade at a non-white person.

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      That’s such BS, really.

      Why didn’t they have Laurie training bars? What was the reason for that?

      Now it just looks even more like Maggie got screwed. And Skinner of course.

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      Now it makes sense why skinner posted herself on beam yesterday. She looks amazing, she’d be giving us a third useable vault that scores better than a dty and backing up beam and floor in TF

  63. Guest Says:

    I think some 4-year fans start to realize the rigged system of USAG selection.


  64. Exgymgurl Says:

    Laurie and her coach would be better off keeping their mouths closed, this doesn’t help her with endorsements. This doesn’t help her with making a world team. Skinner if she goes to Utah this fall and is done knows it’s all BS. Locklear knows she’s better off keeping her mouth shout. It was a joke when gabby was put on the team, now Laurie is pissed and did crappy in PT and she and her coach better pull it together and get on the happy train or Marta will sit Laurie for TF like she did mccool

    • Case Says:

      Yup, I actually think Laurie is going to pay a high price for complaining. In fact, it would not surprise me if she can’t overcome this “injury” and we never see her on the floor in Rio.

  65. Katie Says:

    Maybe I’m just cynical

    This is a beautiful media set up by Marta. I don’t believe for one second she isn’t driving the narrative here, with this whole Aly over Laurie thing. Again, take the focus off of Gabby and the ridiculous fact that she is doing the aa. This, obviously should be about gabby taking the spot from Laurie, but it’s not. Why?? Because this is about bars! Aly is the one with the poorer bar scores, so the media focus will based on the confusion of choosing a routine that would score lower than someone else’s, and Gabby, the darling of this god forsaken world, gets a pass. Also- chances are better for gabby to go against Aly, because we have a better understanding of how they will be scored with an international judging panel. Marta- you cunning little *****- you’re trying so hard for gabby to happen this Olympics, but I really believe Aly can take this (and honestly, I’m not a die hard fan of Alys gymnastics, more of just who she is and her work ethic and overall consistency.)
    I fee badly for both Laurie and Aly. They’ve been put in impossible situations. I wish them both the best, and hopefully they can enjoy themselves and put the bullshit behind them.

  66. Exgymgurl Says:

    BTW I knew gabby on this team was poison for team chemistry. Aly doesn’t even talk to her anymore. It’s so obvious this team was bought and paid for by citi, and the other endorsers. NOw Lauries floor doesn’t even look that great because emotionally she’s hurt and can’t cope with it. But that’s what Marta wanted. Congrats Steve penny. Laurie is not Jordyn and I don’t know if she has the toughness to pull this out like wieber did after she lost an aa qual spot to gabby. That took a lot for Jordyn to do that. And perform like she did in TF and do her job. Yesterday Laurie didn’t look like she was doing her job she looked like a hurt kid that was pissed off.

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      I can’t wait for prelims to watch gabby Aly and the petulant teenager fight it out for Simone’s scraps.

    • Case Says:

      Agree, this team is a mess. An absolute mess. I guess there are two things I can root for: 1) Simone and 2) that Aly upsets Gabby for the second AA spot.

  67. Exgymgurl Says:

    Btw I think Simone going up third in floor qual is to give her an extra 3-5 minutes of rest between floor and vault since she does two vaults there is no other logical explanation.

  68. aerial Says:

    I’m not sure what to think here. First of all, I would LOVE to see Laurie in AA finals. She’s my favourite on the team. But I understand that as a new senior, very limited international experience, having one meet where she outscored Aly, and Aly’s difficulty being superior… Aly being the AAer and being given the opportunity to qualify.
    I think it looks petty, dumb and self-absorbed for Haney to be talking about crying all week. Like we all would LOVE to see Laurie dazzle and wow and capture everyone’s attention in AA finals. Of course! But this 5 person team shit has ruined everything. And obviously almost everyone on the team will not be utilized the way they would have a few years back, and there won’t be as “fair” a chance for multiple to fight for one of the two AA spots, and there’s a plethora of girls back home and training in an alternate gym in Rio that get fudged over too with this sport being decimated this way. At this point, despite my personal disappointment at not seeing Laurie compete to the extent she would have in a different quad, I think with the political way these teams are selected and line-ups are formulated the joy here should be that Laurie came out as a new senior, wowed and is an Olympian. She and her coach have done an amazing job. But what does it do to the other girls, the team dynamic and relationships to hear her talk about bawling all week because her athlete may not compete all 4 events? How many girls under this system actually get to? Obviously if you tell the world this, if you’re not telling Laurie, she’s all over social media and is going to read it. What does this do to her perspective? Her joy in being there and competing for the team? Laurie has gone pro – before the competition began – she’s the youngest girl on this team by several years. She has more ahead of her. There is so much going into this, despite her being my personal fave.
    Everyone knows that unless you’re Madison Kocian, the team event has a very silver lining. Every says it’s all about the team but the rest of the Olympic opportunity rests on AA and event finals qualification. They say it’s all about the team but every one of these girls is desperate to have every opportunity they can there, and under this system it makes it near impossible unless you’re a Simone Biles. Everyone knows what happened to Jordyn Weiber. The girls know team comes first and not everyone will get to compete all 4 events and that they all can’t get the same line-up spot in order to best qualify for an event final despite their legit world talent. So in advance of the team event to hear about Haney saying she’s spent the past week in Rio crying about this, is icky and really bad publicity.

  69. Ilanchik20 Says:

    Supposed injury to Laurie. How convenient

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      So who replaces her? We need a beam , vault and floor
      Sounds like Skinner to me;) I don’t buy this injury either

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        Laurie just posted on Twitter that she is healthy. I think it’s some pr crap.

        If they were to replace her, I’d say it’s Regan. They most would need the beam but Marta won’t do it.

        But it’s interesting. They never disclose injuries before a competition…hmm

    • Guest Says:

      I just think they want to find excuses for rationalize GD’s AA Qualification spot.

      • JAS4 Says:

        I agree unless they are angry about her coach speaking out and want to make an excuse to bring in an alternate or at least scare her coach into silence. They are making Aly the one to blame again just like they did in 2012 when both times it was Gabby. She got gifts in prelims in 2012 while Jordyn was hammered on every tiny detail and now she is getting an AA position over Laurie when she wouldn’t have even been on this team if it weren’t for politics

  70. exgymgurl Says:

    Nope Laurie and Maggie are going to get punished for complaining. Laurie did crappy in PT and I said it was either an injury or a lack of being able to Jordyn up and get through it. I think they pull her off the team as an example not to talk. Its likely Sheryl Slade told her to tell the media on twitter that she isn’t injured regardless of whether she is or not. This whole thing is crappy for Laurie. I would say it would be skinner or Ragan replacing her. This may be why Skinner put her beam on Instagram and why five days ago Ragans parents decided to come. If I thought it was 50/50 that my kid would compete I would think more seriously about coming.

    • Ilanchik20 Says:

      Now it’s not a hamstring injury but a stomach muscle injury. Lol.

      I say Laurie is a bit injured but they didn’t expect ig to report it so they are backpedaling now.

      I doubt Marta pulls Laurie but she will definitely scare her coach into submission. I also wouldn’t be surprised to see a change in beam line-up with Aly going third now.

      They kept Jordyn’s and Mac’s injuries abay so this is certainly not planned.

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        It looked like an ab pull to me yesterday, that’s why I said what I did her carriage on floor even looks looser to me

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        Oh and as far as IG not reporting it rubbish, IG is owned by Bart and Nadia, all Marta had to do was call Nadia, often an ab injury can lead to a hamstring injury

      • Case Says:

        It is suspect that Laurie’s injury got out when Jordyn and Mac’s injuries were kept very very quiet. My theory? Marta wanted that conversation piece out there so she can justify replacing her because she pissed about Laurie and her coach whining. That would be classic Marta.

  71. exgymgurl Says:

    skinner gives us vault three, beam three or four and floor three
    Her vault and her floor would easily replace laurie, and beam would be between her and gabby. ragan puts gabby on vt and floor in tf and likely ragan only comes in and does beam. Martas call do we need the bonus points on vault? Skinners floor beats gabby or ragan by a half point. Do we need that? If Laurie is hurt or being punished for her coach speaking out then today is the day marta decides.

    • Case Says:

      Well, I actually think Ragan has the edge. USAG clearly wants Gabby in as many events as possible and this manuever would help that. I can’t believe Laurie broke, really thought if anybody did it would be Kocian.

      Laurie is getting totally screwed here though. Totally.

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      I think we will know 24 hours before competition when Marta has to submit an independent med report to FIG to get an athlete replaced. Can you imagine any of the 2012 coaches doing this? Either way I think the likelihood of her getting mccool end in TF is extremely high. This is why she could have waited and gone pro as soon as they had a team gold.

      • Case Says:

        Oh totally agree, none of the 2012 coaches would have done this. Even Geddert, who was known to speak his mind, understood the politics well enough not to challenge Marta in London. Unfortunately Laurie is going to be the big loser here.

  72. Exgymgurl Says:

    IG is now saying ab pull which is what I said

  73. Melissa Says:

    Interesting because the NBC feed clearly shows Laurie doing twisting crunches…..so is she stretching out the pain or just stretching in general to keep her body warm before the next rotation? DAMN YOU MARTA AND YOUR HEAD GAMES!!

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      I think it’s a lateral ( up and down) left side ab rather than one of the twisting ones. She was better on her twisting tumbling on floor than her layout. Her DTY looked ok also.

      • Melissa Says:

        Ugh I want her to not be injured at all, but yes I would agree with you on it being lateral if there truly is an injury!

  74. H Says:


    …” Laurie Hernandez has confirmed via Twitter that this information is incorrect and the team is healthy and ready to compete! “

    • hobarttdavid Says:

      “team” not Laurie? She got Marta-ed.

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        If Laurie is kept on a team, she is fine going pro, even if Marta pulls her off a TF line-up. She would still get a team medal.

        If Marta replaces her, that’s a diff story.

        If Laurie is pulled from TF, either GD or Naddie need to do beam and Marta doesn’t trust either. This could make things interesting lol

        If Marta brings in an alternate, that person didn’t get to practice on a podium–problematic, especially as a beam replacement.

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        They would get to practice on warm up in qualifications though, and likely that plus competing in quals gives Marta all the info she needs

    • exgymgurl Says:

      Sheryl Slade desperately trying to retain endorsements for Laurie has confirmed via twitter that its not true. Whether it is or not. Laurie doesn’t want to be replaced.

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      I can’t believe they will even try and replace Laurie – this is either Marta wagging a finger in warning to Maggie or …well, it’s probably Marta issuing a big warning. Do NOT question Marta’s politics, just go with it. And be happy she even made the team because there were plenty of others who could have just as easily been put in Laurie’s spot. Let’s be honest here.

      Marta can manufacture any excuse to get the team she wants.

      Clearly too, this is good for USAG/Marta because the attention diverts away a bit from GD being selected for the team and then the AA. Gives reason for Marta to give Laurie the boot on the AA. Funny thing though is that even the 4 year fans aren’t buying it.

      And in this day and age, if they replace Laurie with Skinner or Ragan Marta is going to be called a racist.

      • Gymbee Says:

        USAG saying Laurie reports are false, then says “at this time she is fine and training”. Why would they say “at this time”?!

      • Katie Says:

        McKayla said something in her gymcastic interview that came to mind- no one on the team had have an ego bc they were constantly reminded that they could be replaced at the drop of a hat.
        I do think this was a message to Maggie to shut up. Especially since Laurie will be the big name in 2017 and the probable world championship all around winner. If Laurie wants all the opportunities that going pro could bring, Maggie needs to just drop it.

  75. katecoursey Says:

    Does anybody know why Aly watered down her floor between Nationals and Trials? She went from 6.6 to 6.4 difficulty. She took out a leap from her series…I know her leaps aren’t always the best, but it didn’t seem like she was losing enough on execution to justify downgrading…or maybe they’re worried international judges will be more harsh?

    • katecoursey Says:

      I need her to make AA. I need her to stick that amanar like she did in PT and show everybody why she deserves to be there. If she comes away with an AA medal after what happened in 2012 I will be so happy…she’s grown on me more and more these past few years, seeing how hard she works and how she genuinely seems to care for her younger teammates.

      • Case Says:

        Well, if anybody can do it, Aly can. She is nothing if not consistent. And she can deliver when it matters.

        Quite a storyline for her if she grabs the 2nd AA spot again this Olympics.

    • H Says:

      I was wondering the same, but someone pointed out that it was the double turn after her first serie that was not given credit therefor minus 0.2. But I am nor sure?

      • katecoursey Says:

        Ohhh maybe…she used to have four leaps in her leap series though and now she only has three (from nationals to trials). So I was assuming that’s where it came from, considering she received 6.4 on both days of trials.

      • H Says:

        I think others posting here will soon enlighten both of us katecoursey:-)

        So, was it the leaps (lack of one after third pass )or the turn after first pass that made Aly loose 0.2 at trials?

      • Gymbot Says:

        You’re both correct! Losing the d turn is minus .2 in her Olympic trials routine, however, she also took out a split jump 1/1 as katecoursey points out. If she did that leap she would have had an extra c element to count and she would have lost only 0.1

      • H Says:

        Thank you Gymbot!
        I guess they decided that Aly lost more than she gained for that leap so they have taken it out now.

      • Gymbot Says:

        No probs H – that totally makes sense. If she kept the C leap in the routine, she could save 0.1 on her D score, but it’s also another element where she can receive a deduction. Optimal routines present more or less 8 counting skills.

        Kharenkova often fell victim to this, her floor and beam routines were packed with additional skills that weren’t optimal for score building: for example, she had two C+C mixed and dance combinations, but none of the four C elements were needed for requirements or top eight scores. So she risked deduction on four difficult skills for 0.2 bonus. Mustafina also takes a risky approach here, where she competes the triple turn and double turn with leg in split. Worst case scenario for her, she hits two memmels and doesn’t receive any difficulty credit for the second turn. She arranged her routine so that she could do her leaps at the end, if she thinks she didn’t get the mustafina, she would add a difficult leap at the end in her leap series.

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      Speaking of turns one of Gabbys on floor is questionable and the other is definitely incomplete. I hope she gets komovad like its 2011

      • Gymbot Says:

        Yeah her turns are really wild. They were with chow, I think the strategy is to over rotate for getting the d score, some e score judges may not take the deduction so overall it nets points. However she has been stumbling out of it, not good for her

  76. allie Says:

    Did you guys see this feature from the NY Times? It’s top billing on NYTimes.com. So glad to see it! 🙂 http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/08/05/sports/olympics-gymnast-simone-biles.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=image&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

  77. Gymnast41 Says:

    In the light of everything I think the whole Laurie injury BS was a fail at IG trying to be relevant. But where did they even get this from? I seriously don’t think they’d be dumb to completely make up a stir for their already crap magazine.

    In other news, I think we are two days way from seeing gabby tears flow after being 2 per countries/show of nasty attitude, and I can’t wait to see aly’s shining moment. I’m getting chills thinking that she’s the possible AA silver medalist 🙂

    • KG Says:

      Yessss! I’m rooting so hard for Aly!

      And I think there must be some truth to laurie’s injury. I don’t think they’ll actually replace her though as long as her coach keeps her darn mouth shut. How selfish to talk about herself crying. I’m sure mihai was pissed about aly’s tiebreaker last year but you didn’t hear him mouthing off.

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      Gabby won’t cry, she’ll get coach grabby to start filing appeals and then she will say it’s racist because they don’t want two black medalists

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        The rotation and line-up order should also benefit Aly.

        They start on floor, then vault. Aly goes last on flood and 3rd on vault. By the time they get to bars, she should have a big enough lead, fingers crossed. Gabby is first on flood and beam, which hopefully means she will get low-balled or at the least not overscored.

        Go Aly!

  78. Laura Says:

    Wow, journalism is getting interesting these days…first IG’s misquote on Laurie and now multiple articles regarding the negative comments made towards Gabby on the team…..


    • Ilanchik20 Says:

      People r all upset about IG reporting but let’s be real–they wouldn’t have said anything, unless Marta wanted them to. She knows how to keep injuries quiet when need to be.

      Laurie may have a slight ab tear but it certainly not bad enough to prevent her from competing. She won’t get replaced. I think this was about Maggie, not Laurie.

      And Laurie looking lackluster at podium training doesn’t help.

      I have always rooted for Aly but I’m that much more now. She got it!

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Speaking of which the skating lesson ripped the writer of this article a new one on twitter for her biased , Marta favored coverage of gymnastics. It’s a fascinating read until Dave starts ass kissing her at the end.

  79. Melissa Says:

    Do we know if the girls got approved for opening ceremonies?

    • Ilanchik20 Says:

      No opening ceremonies, as far as I heard.

      But they had a full day off today which is kind of unheard of lol

    • Mim Says:

      Guys you’re killing me, when did Opening Ceremony become plural? 😛

      I’m sooooo curious to see what will happen to poor Laurie. I think she would have been better off going pro straight after the Olympics personally! That way if things don’t go to plan a la Rebecca Bross you still have options but if you do well you capitalise on it in the post Olympic glory period.

  80. Guest Says:

    Even Shawn opens up how the nonsense of screwing Laurie’s AA qualification.

  81. Ilanchik20 Says:

    Asac had her baby yesterday

  82. Ilanchik20 Says:

    The line-up is official now:

    • Tortuga Says:

      Nice, I couldn’t figure out how to post a picture to this from my phone. I’m upset that Laurie isn’t getting a shot at AA but I’ve seen it coming for a long time. I knew it would be exactly like the Maggie situation at Worlds last year and Gabby was doing AA no matter what. But lord please let Aly keep performing the way she has been and everything will be perfect.

  83. Exgymgurl Says:

    https://www.usagym.org/pages/post.html?PostID=19025&prog= Aly has her AA shot official

  84. Tortuga Says:

    It’s official, USAG posted the line ups to Facebook this morning and it’s what we saw in podium training.

  85. Exgymgurl Says:

    Oh btw it’s the same lineup as pt…..Aly gets extra rest time between warm up and performance on floor and Simone gets extra rest time between floor and vault

  86. chris Says:

    how do we go about watching the live stream on nbc outside of the US?

    • H Says:

      Check if your own country has live stream online.
      Most countries are running multiple live streams online of all the different OG events, while they promote a limited edition through TV. And the stream should be the same for any country, the only difference (as I have understood it) is the individual hosts/commentators.
      You need cable to watch NBC, though you get access to the first 30 min without cable log in. So if you dont have cable log in you basically need to move from one city to another to keep get the first 30 minutes …

      • Tortuga Says:

        So I got a VPN to watch other countries coverage, because I don’t have cable. I was thinking BBC would be the best bet. And from what I gather I can’t find a stream as of yet for Sub 4 (USA’s division) on the TV Player/ All BBC schedule. Anyone else know of somewhere to stream Sub 4 with a VPN? Wanting to watch live so I don’t get spoilers. Will watch NBC broadcast in the evening at a friends.

      • H Says:

        Finland are streaming everything as far as I have seen.

      • Tortuga Says:

        @H, Awesome! Do you have the website in Finland that is streaming everything. That would be extremely helpful.

      • H Says:


        then go to “Arena” in the menu bar , then click the Rio image.
        I know it works well on mobil devices and iPad, today they have had problems to make it work well on computers though.

      • H Says:

        apps for mobile and iPad

  87. gymnerd Says:

    I’m just going to put this out there – does anyone else see Laurie’s going pro when she did as one of the dumbest decisions ever? Announcement came out Wednesday and she got pulled (or was already out) from the AA lineup on Thursday. Doesn’t the lack of AA have a huge effect on her earning potential? I get that she can still make some bank off the potential team gold, and accept tour $$, but will it be worth it? It seemed like she really wanted to do NCAA. I get that it’s her life and all, it just seems like it might have been better to wait one more week and then do the math. I wonder if she has regrets now, or if she will be trying to un-sign a la Elise Ray?

    • Gymbot Says:

      I’m wondering if it was last ditch effort to get back into the AA picture.

      However, according to her statement… she wants to stick around for four years. If she’s smart, elite can pay for her college education if she does stick around for four years. No guarantees in this sport, it was a risky move.

      • gymnerd Says:

        I hadn’t thought of that, Gymbot (last-ditch effort) – it’s apparently no secret in the gym world that the powers that be prefer pros, though I don’t really understand why. Interesting perspective.

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      Completely dumb. Unless she’s not meeting clearinghouse requirements for NCAA and college really would have been a tough uphill climb

    • Lauren H Says:

      She should have waited another year, until she possibly won AA at worlds next year (this is assuming Simone takes a year of forever off after Rio). I couldn’t help but think of Rebecca Bross when I heard this news. I just think it’s so early in her career to be going pro, and especially dumb now that she’s not competing AA in Rio. I hope she stays injury free the next 4 years!

  88. Guest Says:

    A scary injury occur in men qualification. A French vaulter bend his leg into L shape on his poor landing. 😵

  89. Gymbot Says:

    Well, it’s Leyva really proved it was mistake to initially leave him off the team. He’s qualified near the top for PB and HB, and already potential medalists on HB have already fallen (Uchimura, Brettschreinder).

    The only other real medal hope, Dalton, touched that mat on his second vault, so it’s unlikely he’ll appear in the final. Floor is going to be tough based on just sub division 1 scores, so he may not get into that final either.

    Whittenburg should have been on this team.

    • Ilanchik20 Says:

      Dalton’s floor was georgeous. Hope he makes it.
      Sam is looking great for AA.

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        Sam won’t medal aa, sorry, and Leyva might have.

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        Just as I said it, Sam messed up on pommels. Brooks off on pommels too. Leyva def should have been doing AA.

      • Gymbot Says:

        Haven’t seen the floor from USA yet, I left work around three

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      It was a mistake not to let him compete AA over brooks

    • Guest Says:

      I am pissed off with the judge scoring on Kenzo’s floor. It is ridiculous that he may not be able to advance to final without major mistake.

      • Gymbot Says:

        I think Kenzo should be a little higher but he had two major errors: giant bounce oob after the triple twisting double and a lack of coordination on the handstand.

  90. dianajc99 Says:

    There is a petition to remove Al Traw.. from commentating for nbc gymnastics on you caring..

  91. Lithi Says:

    The Federal Trade Commission (US) is cracking down on Instagram shilling from celebrities, Shawn and Nastia will have to take their ho-ing somewhere else. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-05/ftc-to-crack-down-on-paid-celebrity-posts-that-aren-t-clear-ads

  92. gymtruthteller Says:


    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Article from Boston.com that proves Marta forced Aly to do AA at Classics but not Gabby.

      • Gymnast41 Says:

        I kind of had a feeling that was the case. Why her but not others, but it served her well..ugh this is why she will be rightfully entering the AA final tomorrow

  93. dianajc99 Says:

    Petition for Laurie..I don’t know what to think

    • Guest Says:

      I just keep fingers crossed that karma will happen for such a disgrace in qualification round.

  94. dianajc99 Says:

    No AA for Chuso..AA for Catalina

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