Shang Chunsong : Xinan Regional Competition (Qualifying)

Looks pretty good. Only 5.1 but per usual in Chinese competitions they low balled her.

43 Responses to “Shang Chunsong : Xinan Regional Competition (Qualifying)”

  1. Gymbot Says:

    Well maybe I spoke too soon earlier, she looks in really good shape.

    The video says 13.3 total score, so that’s an 8.2 E score without any national bonuses. I can’t say I really know what’s happening with the Chinese team these days. Who are their top athletes for teams? Will Chunsong be in the mix?

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      All I see is a bunch of inconsistency.

    • imperatorcarolus Says:

      The ones I have seen the most are those who are going for a specialist spot or have participated in World Cup, so no AAers per se. Fan Yilin for bars and Li Qui for beam, mostly. Both are pretty good, and Li Qui’s beam is great, but GTT is right saying it is still pretty inconsistent in this last case. But I can’t tell you anything about AAers. I remember that Liu Tingting was second at Jesolo and she showed a good form, but had problems on floor, and Tang Xijing was fourth, but she also had somewhat low scores on vault and floor. So, I would say that Liu Tingting is the most prominent AAer for China, but they could also have someone they didn’t want to bring to international competitions.

  2. imperatorcarolus Says:

    Russia announced its definitive rooster for Euros: Melna, Sikamova, Ilyankova and Paseka. Mustafina withdrew on her own volition and decided not to attend.

    • Danielle Says:

      Oh man I was hoping that was an April fools joke! Well it’ll be sad not to see Musty but maybe Sima can prove herself.

    • Cupquaked Says:

      I thought naming her to the team was a bit presumptuous. She did do well at Stuttgart but it’s obvious that she needs to get into better shape and work on her conditioning. I’m sure, especially after this announcement, that Aliya knows that and is skipping Euros because of it.

      Trying. To be competition ready AND work on your conditioning can be overly exhausting. I’m glad she’s at the point where she doesn’t feel the need to carry the Russian team on her own.

      • imperatorcarolus Says:

        The funny (well, not that funny, but you get the gist) is that Musty withdrew from Euros, as she was named and she said no. She really knows better than Valentina, but the truth remains that if this was the case of a gymnast with less prestige or power, she would have to endure the task and taking the risk of being injuried or being vanished to Gymsberia.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Are we sure Aliya didn’t pull out because she wasn’t named to the team originally? Aliya knows how important she is and I wouldn’t be surprised to find out she was mad about not being named in spite of finishing 3rd at Nationals.

      • Gymbot Says:

        Yeah Valentina started to trash talk Grishina when she showed up to Russian cup and withdrew due to injury.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Now you put the wrong

        You’re becoming as bad as I am at checking but at least you have an excuse. #Gradschool

      • imperatorcarolus Says:

        We know what Valentina said about it at this point, that it was for physical reasons and that she was the one who took the decision, no Valentina or the team coaches. I don’t think she is lying, because it is true that Aliya had had several appointments this past couple of months and she isn’t at her top game, and to be honest, this Europeans are a little too decaf, as a lot of top gymnasts are skipping it to focus on Worlds or World Cups, so it makes sense for her. Valentina could have easily told that she simply sent the two tops AAers and two specialist and make no excuses for Aliya, because she took off the winner of the Russian Cup, Sika, out of the rooster just because she wanted to. I don’t think that Aliya is doin’t it out of spite of not being named to it originally, as she knows that she wasn’t in top shape at Russian Cup. And let’s be honest, if she had done things just to spite Valentina, she wouldn’t have competed since 2011, when she began to trash Aliya after her injury.

        I think it is a start move on Aliya’s behalf. She needs time to heal completely, being at her top game and master both her new floor and beam, that is giving her a lot of problems lately. What saddens me is that Aliya can make this decision knowing that her position won’t suffer because she is powerful in the Russian Federation, but other gymnasts, like Sika who was injuried last Worlds or Grishina, as Gymbot mentioned, would have been vanished for that reason almost immediately and would never come back. They would be forced to let Valentina break them just to have a shot and that is very sad.

      • Gymbot Says:

        Grad school is kicking my butt recently – I’m wicked tired

  3. IU ErBear Runs Says:

    Laurie posted another training video at the end of last week. She’s been very vague about her plans for this year and has posted almost scraps to Instagram about her training… and this is an advertise for a Amazon Prime TV show in the end…

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      She is way to out of gymnastics shape to compete this year. She doesn’t even look like she is trying to lose weight.

      • IU ErBear Runs Says:

        Yeah, I just don’t see her working as hard as Aly or Gabby did at this point. I think she’s stretched really thin with all of her other commitments and isn’t focused on this like she should be.

        I feel like even at her best in 2016, she’d have a hard time making a case for beam against Kara Eaker and a case for AA against Leanne Wong or Sunisa Lee. And then we have next year’s juniors who will move up and it’s anyone’s game really!

      • HartofDixie Says:

        It’s so obvious she is training to get new endorsements and other gigs. If she tries to compete I can see her having the same fate as Nastia. Is USAG even going to have a post Olympic tour?

      • Cupquaked Says:

        I think Laurie’s actually in a better spot than Nastia was. At this point in the 2012 quad, Nastia hadn’t even come back yet. I don’t think she started conditioning until 8 months before 2012 nationals and had only been doing “full” routines for something like three weeks before Trials.

        Her comeback was a joke and she would have gotten a spot if she’d had the stamina to get through a bar routine because Marta just loooooooved her.

        I think I’m going to give Laurie the benefit of the doubt right now. Gymnastics training is expensive. So I’m not sure if the endorsements she *might* get actually outweigh the cost (monetarily and physically) of still training.

        What I’ve started to notice among kids and recent NCAA grads is that they’ve done one thing (gymnastics) for so long that they don’t really know what to do with themselves when their time with sport is ended or ending. It’s like they never had time for any other interests or hobbies. So they just keep coming back but it’s easy to see that they’re just kind of lost for a while.

        I think Laurie may have a real chance of getting back to competition form, but only if she really works for it. It sort of seems like this could be her trying to find what to do with her life now that the Olympics is done.

        Maybe I’m reading too much into it. 🤷🏼‍♀️😂

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Laurie is a very good gymnast but the only chance she has at a comeback is if she starts conditioning and training seriously and so far she has shown none of that. She spends more time in the gym playing to the camera then training.

        I think if she seriously trains she very well could make the Olympic team. Her best event is beam. She was capable on floor and bars and she had a dty. If she has been training this entire time instead of DWTS she IMO would easily beat Morgan.

      • IU ErBear Runs Says:

        I really think she has a long way to go. Morgan, Riley, Grace, Sunisa, Leanne…plus there are always other first-year seniors who challenge. I can’t for the life of my see where she would fit. If you’re thinking a team format. If the Olympics would be there, I believe QF would be the following:

        Vault: Lee, Wong, Biles, (Eaker)
        Bars: Wong, Biles, Lee, (Eaker)
        Beam: Wong, Biles, Eaker, (Lee)
        Floor: Wong, Lee, Biles, (Eaker)

        This team scores a 173.173. However, since Eaker is in the line-up, it does put a “specialist” position in the air that would be earned from AA World Cups.

        Another interesting combination would be:

        Vault: Malabuyo, Wong, Biles, (Lee)
        Bars: Wong, Biles, Lee, (Malabuyo)
        Beam: Malabuyo, Wong, Biles, (Lee)
        Floor: Malabuyo, Lee, Biles, (Wong)

        This team scores a 173.123 and you’d have Carey and Eaker as specialist from AA World Cups.

        Both teams would be competitive for medals in all events. If Laurie wants to get on, I see her having to challange either Kara Eaker or Emma Malabuyo right now.

        All the numbers were based on scores this year. Lee, Malabuyo, Wong, and Eaker have competed in multiple competitions, so I averaged their scores. For Morgan’s scores, I used her the average of all of her numbers from World Championships.

        Things always do change, but based on scores from this year this far, Biles, Lee, and Wong are hanging tough. It’ll be interesting to see how Hurd, McCallum, and McCusker adjust to keep pace with these three.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Malabuyo does nothing for me as a gymnastics fans. She a walking injury.

      • IU ErBear Runs Says:

        I’m a numbers person. I compared the scores of Simone Biles, Kara Eaker, Morgan Hurd, Sunisa Lee, Emma Malabuyo, Grace McCallum, Riley McCusker, and Leanne Wong.

        I used only 2019 data and averaged for Lee, Malabuyo, and Eaker (they have multiple scores from Jesolo). Hurd hasn’t competed, so I averaged all of her scores from Doha.

        Based on those numbers, you can’t have a team WITHOUT Biles, Lee, and Wong. Biles and Lee are top 2 on vault, Lee is top on bars (Biles is 4tth), Wong and Biles are 2nd and 3rd on beam and Biles and Lee are 1 and 2 on floor.

        I then subbed in the remaining girls. I was honestly surprised to see the score with Kara was higher than any of the other teams. I was even more shocked to see Malabuyo’s scores. Of course, the numbers assume that everyone stays healthy and that Morgan hasn’t upgraded. I also can’t take into account Ragan Smith who hasn’t been firing on all cylinders since 2017 US Champs.

        So of those three, these are my scores:

        Morgan Hurd: 173.025

        Riley McCusker: 172.598

        Grace McCallum: 172.806

        I just wanted to see from the data given, what Laurie would have to do make herself a viable option for Tokyo 2020.

      • Danielle Says:

        I just can’t see them putting a one event gymnast (Eaker) on a 4 person team. It seems like kind of a waste of a spot, especially since her beam routine is SO risky with connections and ring positions. I’m kind of feeling Morgan or Leanne will rise to the challenge while McCusker will fall back. Who knows! Morgan is inconsistent but unlike Riley she tends to mostly hit when it matters.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Eaker does the AA. She might not have great routines but she does all 4 events. I personally wouldn’t take her for one event especially since Simone scores better on beam and there aren’t any great beamers anymore that the US has to worry about in a team competition but if the US has 3 strong AAers like Simone and Morgan and someone else that steps up they might consider taking a specialist like Eaker who can step in and do the AA if someone gets hurt.

      • Brainy Says:

        Like Morgan or not, she is consistent and adds to a US team.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Yes she does. No one said she didn’t but in 2017 she was bad at Nationals and was named to the team anyway and last year she was great at Nationals and messy at camp and still got named to the team. No one is saying she doesn’t deserve to be on the teams so far but with the juniors coming up she will have competition. I personally think she won’t have to worry because IMO she has gotten better from year to year with no sign of falling back but after Simone the team is a crap shoot.

  4. gymtruthteller Says:

    Europeans schedule.

  5. HartofDixie Says:

    Tokyo World Cup will air WAG:
    Olympic channel 4/7 10:30 am ET
    NBCSN 4/7 9:00 pm ET

  6. HartofDixie Says:
    • Mary Says:

      “We did it!” well, obviously, but in my day we didn’t inform the world of that particular activity.

      Sorry, feeling old and cranky. I do wish Shawn an easy pregnancy, a safe birth, and a healthy baby.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        ” We did it” That is what she said? For a girl that was smart enough to get into Vanderbilt she really comes across as kind of dense sometimes.

      • Gymbot Says:

        I think the “we did it” is in reference to the fertility trouble they had for 2 years or so

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Gymbot hun, do you not understand me by now???? I was being facetious .lol

        ” We did it” You mean like we had sex and our sperm went the right direction this time” That’s what I should have said.

    • HartofDixie Says:


      • HartofDixie Says:

        I think they make money off YouTube and their Instagrams. They started a Patreon page since they are not making as much on YouTube. The Instagram for a fetus is weird most wait until after they have the baby to make it public but they are clearly doing it to make money and get free baby stuff. Not sure if Shawn has any sponsorships left but she does do some speaking events.

    • Danielle Says:

      I’m strangely excited for them. They’re pretty annoying most of the time when I see their YouTube videos but they do seem well matched and like they genuinely love each other.

      • Danielle Says:

        Annnnd then I saw the Instagram account for their baby omg. 🤦🏻‍♀️

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I know, right. I wonder if they will want money like Alicia wanted for her honeymoon.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        They don’t live in reality. Neither has a job or an ounce of responsibility. How do they make money? I’m so

        They do seem like a great couple and if they want little soul stealers then go ahead have them as long as you aren’t on welfare it’s not my business.

  7. HartofDixie Says:

    I’ve been following NCAA regionals on Twitter and Alabama and Florida did not qualify to Nationals.

    Oregon State

  8. imperatorcarolus Says:

    • Danielle Says:

      This Twitter has a few videos. Ellie’s vault was amazing!

    • Gymbot Says:

      Very close at the top!

      I added up the points based on finishes and this the final FIG ranking for 2018. 1. USA 235, 2. CAN 205, 3. JPN 160, 4. GER 155, 5. RUS 130, 6. BRA 120, 6. FRA 120, 8 CHN 100.

      KOR, NED, HUN and GBR round out the bottom won’t 60 35 30 and 30 points, but only appeared once. The other teams appeared 3-4x. If it were 2020, I’m sure there would have been more competition by the NOCs but USA, CAN, and JPN would have nabbed the extra spots to the Olympics if it was this year. JPNs score was with 4 finishes and RUS score was with only 3, so that’s probably the top group contending for spots: USA CAN JPN and RUS. Maybe GER too, all depends who will show up but it seems Ellie Black is all about it, she’ll keep CAN in the running

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