Skating Worlds, Doha Finals, Birmingham and LEAVE MARIAH BELL ALONE

McCusker takes silver at Birmingham. Aliya wins.


Looks like she had big issues on beam and fell on vault.

Riley on bars

Aliya on bars

Doha Finals

Vault and Bars

BB and Floor

Qi’s beam

Entire Floor final

( I will add the results to the other blog too but it was getting too long)

Kristal Uzelac article.

2019 World Championships

Full Results

World Ladies Long Program

Rocker Skatings live results

( Yes I know that’s Evgenia Medvedeva but I like her better)

Ladies Press Conference

1. Alina Zagitova 237.50
2. Elizabet Tursynbaeva 224.76
3. Evgenia Medvedeva 223.80
4. Rika Kihira 223.49
5. Kaori Sakamoto 222.83
6. Satoko Miyahara 215.95
7. Bradie Tennell 213.47
8. Sofia Samodurova 208.58
9. Mariah Bell USA – 208.07

The US pairs got two spots back for next year. The annoying Madison Hubbell and Zachary Donohue are in 4th going into their LP or whatever the hell it is they call it in Ice Dancing and the men are in 1st, 2nd and 4th after the short ) Chan, whats his name and Zhoe

I just remembered Worlds was in Boston a few years ago and I didn’t even go. Skating is over for me tho I did go to the ladies for Nationals.


There is no way she went up to this girl and stabbed her with her skate in the middle of a freaking run through. Imagine the balls you would have to have to do that in the middle of a world Championships?

TMZ picked up the story and the media ran with it and Mariah Bell was treated like a criminal for no reason.

Thanks Heart of Dixie ( Is that for the TV show???) for a better video of the alleged assault that wasn’t.

NBC did a tribute to Denis Ten. Kind of underwhelming to me. Could have been longer and better.

I didn’t read this entire article but what I did read describes the ” gymternet” to a T and it amused me. I am so glad I won’t be around when you snowflakes try to deal with Kim Jong-un’s great, great, great, great, Grandson taking over the United States and you can’t figure out how to fight back because you weren’t taught to understand or deal with anything without throwing a temper tantrum.

Red Dawn 10. ( If you’re offended by this comment it’s why you aren’t allowed to post

83 Responses to “Skating Worlds, Doha Finals, Birmingham and LEAVE MARIAH BELL ALONE”

  1. imperatorcarolus Says:

  2. HartofDixie Says:

    @GTT yes my name is from the show. If anyone needs a light and fluffy show check out hart of Dixie on Netflix.

    • HartofDixie Says:

      McKayla Maroney appears in a couple of episodes I believe it was in season 2.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      I couldn’t get into it. I tried . And I usually love Rachel Bilson.

    • imperatorcarolus Says:

      Now that Netflix has made an appearance here, did you notice there is a lot of awful films dealing with gymnastics there lately? I saw a clip of one of them, where Jordyn, Sacramone and Sam appeared, and it was so awful I couldn’t make myself watch it.

      • HartofDixie Says:

        Are you talking about Full Out?

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Yes I have. That was the one about the UCLA gymnast. I couldn’t get through ten minutes. So bad. Horrible acting.

        Chalk it up was kind of funny but I feel like it tried to be too hard to be like Clueless or that stupid movie about Cheerleading with Kirsten Dunst.

      • imperatorcarolus Says:

        I think that is the name, it was so bad! But I have seen at least other two gymnastic-related movies on Netflix catalogue that seemed equally horrible, so I didn’t dare to try to watch them. What’s happening?

      • IU ErBear Runs Says:

        I miss The Bronze on netflix. That was raunchy, but in a way so damn funny. And the character really did change in the end.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I never saw the Bronze on netflix or I would have watched it.

      • IU ErBear Runs Says:

        If you can rent it on Amazon or Apple, you should. It’s not cutesy, cheesy like Full Out, Chalk it Up, A 2nd Chance or Raising the Bar (the last two are from Australia and are fun if you want to zone out and not think).

        The Bronze is actually rated R, and it’s hard to like the main character at first. But she does finally “get it.” She doesn’t become a goody two shoes, but does become redeemable. Gary Cole (Lumberg from Office Space is her dad) and one of the gymnasts is Kelly Parker from Make It or Break It.

  3. HartofDixie Says:

    As for Mariah Bell people are already after their coach Raf comparing his kiss and cry reactions of Eunsoo to Nathan Chen! I think Mariah is going to keep her social media locked up for the foreseeable future.

  4. Gymbot Says:

    Not sure, but Riley have missed a leap series on beam. She did fall once, breaking her LOSO LOSO. So she would have 1.7 off from her score (lost difficulty and the fall).

    She was short on the DTY. She looked insanely nervous compared to last year, like worse then her American cup meltdown.

    • imperatorcarolus Says:

      Russia confirms its team for Euros: Sikamova out, Aliya in. Sika seems to be the recipient of Valentina’s rage. I hope she doesn’t get vanished to Gymsberia.

    • gymtruthteller Says:


      How do you lose 1.7 points on a short vault? She only scored in the 13.133 range and she would have gotten a 14.500 something if she hit. Are you sure she didn’t put her hands down?

      • Gymbot Says:

        I was saying she fell on beam on the loso breaking a connection (losing .2 in her difficulty). She may also have missed her leap series cause it was kinda slow (-.5). With the fall it’s 1.7 off beam.

        The vault was out of 5.4 so with the fall, they did manage to find another 1.1 points there for her score. All I could tell was it was short, and she looked nervous as hell at the top of the runway

      • Gymbot Says:

        Oh I see. I don’t mean short of distance, but short of rotation. She did crash her vault.

      • Gymbot Says:

        I also messed up my name on the last post?

        The 1.7 loss of points on beam is from missing the Loso, 1 point for the fall and she lost the 0.2 connection with no second Loso.

        I don’t know for sure but I think she missed her leap series – it looked really slow and she had a wobble, so if they didn’t give it to her, another .5 off for 1.7 off beam.

        Her vault was out of 5.4 – so with the fall, they took about a point off on top of that for other errors

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        You wrote gnail instead of gmail. I approved it:)

      • Gymbot Says:

        Haha thanks

  5. Jessica Says:

    It seemed like everyone had a similar vault landing problem, landing with ankles that looked ready to snap. Made me think about the Sydney all around and the height issue.
    I was unimpressed with Riley’s performance. And as much as my fat ass hates to call out a gymnast as fat…GTT you are correct that Aliya is out of shape for a gymnast. I wasn’t sure when I watched last week. But this all around convinced me she needs some serious attention to her conditioning. But, the fact that she can still do well does say a lot about her talent.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      She’s not in gymnastics shape at all and yes she is still amazing and that does say a lot about her talent but lets also remember that Russia is full of inconsistent gymnasts with decent dance. The difference is Aliya shows up when needed ( most of the time)

      • Cupquaked Says:

        Watching Stuttgart, she looks to be around the same size as Elisabeth Seitz but with much less muscle tone.

        I cut her some slack though because she is a young mother and that’s stressful enough. We are still 1.5 years away from the Olympics. She can definitely get in better shape by then. I just hope that she has someone who is guiding her. I feel like after Alexander Alexandrov left, all her coaches basically let her choose what to do, rather than leading her and putting their foot down.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I don’t agree. She looks bigger than Seitz who you can tell is muscle. She has fat coming out the bottom of her leo.

  6. gymtruthteller Says:

    To the person who left the anon message here is your answer.

    This blog is 100% free speech for the people allowed to post here. I do not allow everyone to post here because I have better things to do then have to come here every day and babysit the comment section. I have a full time job that sometimes feels like two, full time jobs and a family and friends and a boyfriend. I know I can leave this place and come back 5 days later and the adults I allowed to post here will have behaved like adults. I have been very lucky with the group I have allowed to post here because I approve people on a feeling. So far I have only been wrong once.

    I didn’t say snowflakes would be banned. I implied the “Gymternet: was full of snowflakes that do not know how to handle anything without throwing a temper tantrum.

    Over the years I have seen ” the gymternet” threaten gymnasts College scholarships, go to meets and scream vulgar things at gymnasts mother than brag about it on their message board because they were proud of it only to friend that same gymnast on facebook and kiss their ass and I vowed this place would never be like that.

    Your comment:

    I remember you many years ago complaining about how another blogger was anti free speech because they didn’t allow someone to comment on their page because they didn’t like their views. Have you changed your mind on this particlar belief?

    This situation was about a message board dictator that would ban anyone that didn’t agree 100% with what he thought on any subject especially gymnastics. The difference between this blog and that terrorist is once I allow you to post here no one has ever been banned because they didn’t agree with my opinion on a gymnast or a subject. I haven’t tried to break into anyone’s bank account or openly bragged about trying to ” be nice” to get approved so I could start trouble either but that is an entire different discussion.

    Over the years I have randomly approved people quite a bit. Most recently, IU ErBear Runs sent me an E-Mail and asked to post and she was approved pretty much immediately. In the past I have said if you want to post here send me an e-mail from an e-mail address that I can search facebook for and come up with your name ( to prove you aren’t a certain group of trolls) you would be approved.

    You can call that selective , ” suppression of speech” but I call that keeping the peace. The difference to me is no one has ever been banned from this blog because they didn’t agree with me on gymnastics. I rarely approve people based on a gymnastics opinion. It may sound weird but I usually get a feeling when someone posts a few times ( who is not approved) and then approve them.

    The original version of Red Dawn wasn’t that bad. The one with Patrick Swayze. Tommy Howell and Jennifer Grey.

    And just for the record if you come here and insult me you will be banned. When I saw free speech I am talking gymnastics, Figure skating, gymnasts etc… I also don’t approve Yankee

  7. gymtruthteller Says:

    Who picks this girls music? The Choreography doesn’t match anythings she is doing.

    She did put her hands down on vault.

    • imperatorcarolus Says:

      I hear you, but Jade’s horrible floor routine is making everyone else’s in USA watchable.

      • IU ErBear Runs Says:

        I honestly want to know how Jade gets over an 8.0 E for her floor routine. The tumbling is big and powerful and fairly clean. None of her landings were sticks and her Moor and Chuso have flexed toes, some knees and a slight pike.

        But her choreo…unless she’s doing a leap it looks like she’s just going through the motions and “marking” her routine. There’s no expression and the moves don’t even seem “finished.”

        I don’t know, that might not make sense – but I guess to put it another way, the dance just seemed half-assed. I get not being a natural dancer. I wasn’t a natural dancer. But my coaches never would’ve given me music like this. I couldn’t have pulled it off, which is why my music was Great Balls of Fire. I could pull off big tumbling (I only got to 10 before I quit from injuries) and choreo that was high-energy. Anything dramatic was not a good look for me.

      • Danielle Says:

        I agree. I remember being so confused seeing Noemi Makra’s floor execution score in 2013 because her tumbling and dance looked so clean. Everyone said it was due to her lack of expression and artistry which is understandable I guess. But then Jade is getting these high E scores with the worst expression and artistry that I’ve seen in a long time.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I didn’t like Riley’s last floor routine at all ( though I love the music) but this one is literally background noise.

      • imperatorcarolus Says:

        She gets those scores because judges don’t give a fuck about artistry. They say they do, but it is obvious they don’t, especially with the current code, that forces gymnast to execute increasingly crazy difficulties paying no mind at all to the music. The instances where gymnasts get deducted for artistry are an oddity and I don’t think it has ever happened to the big countries. If they really took deduction for this, there is no way She-Who-Would-Not-Be-Named nº 2 would have won an Olympic title with a floor routine of the Panamericano’s music, for God’s sake! And there are many others. So don’t get fooled; they don’t give a fuck about artistry and they just care about the difficulty.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Actually they do deduct for artistry and I remember reading somewhere I think youtube that Aliya was deducted more than Gabby at the last Olympics.

      • Gymbot Says:

        I feel like Jade is getting nit picked to be honest, sure the sport is dead artistically but it’s been that way for awhile.

        If you nit pick Makras floor routing you’ll find the flaws as well. Plus her equally dead in the face dance.

        On another note, USAG scores higher on floor because more is less. The gymnasts compete skills that count and nothing more. Jade does exactly 8 elements rated C or more in her routine, and other than round offs, back handsprings and the lone front tuck (which fulfills two requirements), the rest of her routine is only deductible in artistry.

        That’s smart construction given the code. Or code whoring, whatever you want to call it.

        Contrast to Makra who competed 11 C elements or higher, plus the round offs and front tuck for .1 bonus and an extra pirouette and a cartwheel. It all receives deductions, it’s kinda miricale she got close to an 8.0 E score.

        Anyway, artistry is lacking because the flair is deductible.

        Another good example of bad routine construction is anything Maria Kharenkova did on floor or beam. Tons and tons of skills. All acrueing tiny deductions.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I kind of agree. Hey, she isn’t s bad as Carly Patterson :O)

      • Gymbot Says:

        Less is more*

      • imperatorcarolus Says:

        I think Jade is more criticized because she is more visible than other gymnasts who have the same problem and we don’t see as much, or win as much. This kind of controversy is more acute when you see a gymnast routine quite often and not only the deductions are not present, but that kind of gymnastics is encouraged. I am sure that there were more floors as boring as hers that I can’t remember because I just saw it once. Also, we have had this kind of conversation in the past about other gymnasts quite often, so it is nothing personal on Jade, but a glaring statement that artistry doesn’t matter in gymnastics, despite what the code, the coaches or the commentors say about it. The moments when the famous deductions for artistry occurred are few and far between, and in no way the norm. She does a great difficulty very well and that’s it. Artistry is not even a factor and, as you say, it a smart thing to do given the current code, but as a fans and spectators, some of us despair.

        I don’t even remember Kharenkova’s floor routine. She has been in Gymsberia for so long…And it is expected to remain there. And we shouldn’t forget that Valentina has taken off the Europeans team the winner of the Russian Championships, who should have her position assured just for winning it. It speaks volumes of how that federation works.

        Also, I have read on Twitter that Komova is in Round Lake. We don’t know why and for how long yet.

  8. HartofDixie Says:

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    • gsgymblog Says:

      This is comedy.

      Ps. this is my first comment in forever and I miss it here. Grad school is no joke! Is it May yet????

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        We miss you too. What are you going to grad school for ( I know you told me but I forgot)

      • G Says:

        I’m a graduate assistant in the English department. So I teach and I take classes. My degree will be in English with a focus on creative writing. After I graduate next year, I’ll probably try and find a teaching or editing job :

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      I am just giving you a heads up but looking at Nastia makes me ill so I might delete this She never surprises me:)

      • HartofDixie Says:

        Lol I know you hate her but I couldn’t resist. This role model is telling her followers about how great Botox is – she’s still in her 20’s! Anything for a buck.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        That face just irks I am probably too tough on Nastia. Most of the shit she pulled she pulled when she was a teenager or early 20’s but there is something off about that child.

      • Brainy Says:

        The Instagram paragraph that she “wrote” makes me think that the botox has seeped into her brain.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        LOL She didn’t write that. When this stuff happens they tell her what to say.

    • Gymbot Says:

      I wish they said how much the ad was worth, id be interested to know. But maybe it’s good marketing? I mean, for better or worse it got reposted – even here.

      • imperatorcarolus Says:

        The reposting rate is not the only factor here. You have to be convinced to use it because that famous person tells you to. You have to like that person or give her some measure of credibility in any way for it to work. I am sure as hell that she can repost that announcement a million on times here and none of us would buy it just because Nastia advertised it. In fact, is a reason for us not to buy it. Like when Cristiano Ronaldo advertises something in point of view, as I don’t like assholes condemned by law. It is not a good marketing to link your product to someone controversial or that doesn’t provoke good feelings on a lot of your potential clients.

    • Gymbee Says:

      Damn. And everyone in her comments are praising her for being “a role model” for getting Botox, and for “keeping it real”. Wow so real.

  9. HartofDixie Says:

    People are still obsessed with Ohashi. Maybe she can get some media job out of this. I know NCAA are still a couple of weeks away but the amount of attention UCLA has gotten they will win and Ohashi will get a 10 for her new floor and take that title.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      She must have hired a publicist because there is no way that shit routine she did ” went viral” without someone pushing the narrative. She’s a senior and clearly wants a spot on dancing with the stars. Miss Val is retiring and is hopefully going to become irrelevant sometime after that.

      UCLA made me dislike Kyla Ross. I didn’t think that was possible. She’s just another zombie cog in the UCLA over hype machine.

    • IU ErBear Runs Says:

      I will say, I do enjoy her routine (last year and this year, though I haven’t saw the new routine from PAC-12 Champs. I’m glad she’s being successful, and I do think she’d be fun to watch on DWTS (I only watch when a gymnast is on though, lol).

      However, as a college gym fan, the scoring has been hair-pulling all season. Kyla is a beautiful gymnast and I do appreciate her…but how has she got like 11 tens this year while Trinity Thomas has none?! And Sarah Finnegan only got her first ten at Arizona (a PAC-12 team and honestly the PAC-12 judges have been been nuts handing out tens…I feel like it’s Oprah handing out cars…).

      As someone who plays college fantasy gymnastics, I genuinely love and want them all to do well. I find it hard to root for just one team, especially if it means someone has to fall to win – it’s not like football where you have offense versus defense…

      But in closing, I’ve found it very hard to not be frustrated with the scores given to UCLA this year. The NCAA needs to actually adopt a code that the judges have to follow, not say we use the JO Code, but actually, we don’t like they’ve done for years. It frustrates the fans to no ends…

      Especially when we see DII gymnasts doing Y1.5 with a clean landing and getting 9.4’s or lower with only a small hop on the landing…


      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I saw that division 2 girl’s vault that got a 9. something. that was blatant bias by the judges.

        I used to like Katelyn but always found her gymnastics overrated. She leaps out of her passes and doesn’t control the landings yet somehow gets a 10 every time. I refuse to watch college gym during the season anymore. I’ve seen random videos online and one UCLA got a 9.850 on a 1.5 where she was crooked, took a big jump and was clearly piked. These judges especially from UCLA meets need to be fired.

      • IU ErBear Runs Says:

        TBH, I don’t think anyone got any 10’s at home meets until Katelyn and Kyla got them on floor at Val’s last meet…all the other 10’s have come from away meets. And no other UCLA gymnast has them.

        Also, love them or hate them, but UCLA has an amazing market team. They work hard and get those girls out there – plus they post streams so countries outside of the US can watch – SMART.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Doesn’t excuse judges cheating for them. In the past no one would get a 10 til UCLA did then the floodgates would open.

        I know of two of the biggest assholes in the “gymternet” world of hypocrisy who are judges for College gymnastics and they openly love UCLA and hate Mykayla Skinner. The whole world is corrupt.

      • HartofDixie Says:

        Even Mary Lou’s daughter got a 10.

  10. It's all about me Says:

    Ok. I almost hate to even pose this question to the group because Lord knows I’ve just plain stopped trying to understand the garbled-up, mish-mash qualification process for an individual spot at the 2020 Olympics, but…

    During one of the recent word cup events that I finally watched – might have been the Stuttgart one – Tim Daggett said that each gymnast who wins an overall World Cup individual apparatus title and therefore qualifies for that specific apparatus final at the 2020 Olympics also will be able to compete in ALL of the other apparatus finals at the 2020 Olympics, if he or she chooses to do so.


    Now, two things:

    1.) Tim Daggett is kind of a nitwit. So, he very well could be flat-out, 100% wrong. Not gonna be surprised if that’s the case.


    2.) The World Cup route for qualifying as an individual is so insanely convoluted and stupid, that he very well might be right.

    Anyone know anything about this…???

    So, what he was saying is that if, say, Jade Carey wins the World Cup vault title and qualifies for the Olympics, she also could choose to compete on bars and beam in Tokyo, if she wants to – and the decision would totally be HER decision.

    Is this accurate…??? Or did Tim Daggett get it wrong…??? Or am I still hopelessly in the dark on this individual World Cup thing…???

    And in advance, let me go on the record as saying that I can’t blame any person out there one bit for NOT responding to this question.

    Personally, I’ve just given up on trying to legitimately understand the ‘new and improved’ individual route to the 2020 Olympics. It’s just mind-numbingly complicated and horribly lacking in consideration of actual circumstance and scenarios.

    But this latest piece of the puzzle really peaked my curiosity.

    So, there you have it.


    • gymtruthteller Says:

      I do believe you get to do AA even by winning an event final. That is all I can contribute to this discussion and I could be wrong 🙂

  11. HartofDixie Says:

    Could be an April Fools prank but it’s nice to see her training.

  12. gymtruthteller Says:

    Rhonda Faehn is heading to coach in Australia . Guess she announced it on her facebook page.

    • JAS4 Says:

      She probably can’t get a coaching job anywhere in the US where the “gymternet” crowd won’t get her fired because of her USAG association.

  13. JAS4 Says:

    Aly posted on Instagram that she is working on a project with lifetime tv. I wonder if it’s a movie about her or the USAG scandal or maybe she is trying out acting?

  14. imperatorcarolus Says:

    It has been confirmed that Nina Darwael won’t be at Euros. She is focusing to Worlds to help Belgium to qualify a team.

    God, these are going to be a boring Europeans. Aliya or/and Melka are going to win this thing because there isn’t going to have any AA competition whatsoever. I hope Eythora is going.

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