From what I’ve gathered it actually sounds like Simone has ADHD (not really a huge surprise if you watch her during competitions, lol) and is on meds for it, for which she has an approval for. Therefore there really isn’t any scandal, aside from the hack and Simone’s rights being violated.
Her mother was a junkie so who knows what Simone was born on (speculation I know) I am just surprised they approved her taking medicine at all for ADHD. Having dealt with children who have it I can tell you it’s no picnic.
But what the news said was that they were doping because the approval given by the doctors to take banned substances was false. I understand completely if the athletes have some condition that warrant the need of meds…that is normal, no scandal there. But in the news, it is said that they weren’t real conditions, but just a excuse for dopping aproved by doctor linked to the USA’s federation. That’s the bit I don’t know if its correct. If they had medical conditions that warranted the use of meds, there is no news whatsoever.
I think that is what the Russian hackers are trying to imply, but from what I’ve read there is no actual information to support that. Aimee said on Twitter that Simone has a real, documented, and approved release for her medication.
ADHD is a real disorder and meds are usually recommended for it. The issue her is the question of athlete faking a disease to get meds that would be on the banned list.
in 2004 a number of track athlete were on a med that treats Narcolepsy. one of the rares conditions there is.
Looking at wada’s website as long as you can prove you have ADHD you can be approved to take your medicine for up to 4 years at a time. Honestly, she’s probably been on it since she was a little kid. The fact that this is news seems pretty dumb to me.
No, david, what it is implied is that there is no medical conditions whatsoever, so medical certificates were faked to justify the appearance of banned substances in their tests with USA federation’s knowledge. But I don’t think there will be futher problems, because they will be able to clearly demostrates the necessity of taking the meds and everything will be finished. But they are serious charges anyway and I am afraid the public effect they could have.
They are not serious charges–the Russian hackers are trying to make it seem as though “everyone does it” to mitigate the scandal of the state-sponsored cheating that went on in Russia. Anything to take the heat off them. But this is a medical condition, which everyone who mattered (FIG, USAG, IOC) knew about, and for which she was cleared to take this medication. This is just not a big deal, other than by bitter non-medalists (and of course the huge invasion of these athletes’ privacy).
There is literally nothing to see here, other than a bunch of losers trying to drag black and gay athletes and make them seem like cheaters. It’s pretty despicable.
Simone has said in her Twitter that she was taking the meds of ADHD, as you have said, that she have been taking it since she was a kid and have all the permission needed for that. So I think the polemic ends here.
What a crap week for gymnastics with the abuse allegations, Russian hackers and Vanessa Ferrari mouthing off.
Honestly Vanessa is a freaking adult and needs to accept she’s still in fourth place and get over herself. Poor Simone is going to have to continue dealing with so much BS now that she has all the fame with being number one. I hope she’s not going to let this get to her.
If I had to guess, ADHD and other diagnoses made by psychiatrists are probably much less prevalent in many foreign countries. While the stigma of mental illness or anything “mental” is still a big thing in the U.S., it is probably much worse in other countries (Russia, Italy). By no means am I implying that adhd is a mental illness, just a learning differential, but it’s not like a virus or a broken bone, so it is not seen in a tangible way and thus is open to more criticism and speculation. I imagine Ferrari thinks Simone is “faking it” to get meds for improved concentration or something.
A lot of parents put their kids on it to concentrate better and let’s be realistic here if you have the money you can buy anything. I find it interesting the Williams sister are on it amd this is the first we have heard of it.
Lots of drama going on right now with Dr Larry Nassar, who was formerly the team doc for USA gymnastics until a few months ago. He is being accused of sexual assault of 2 former national team members (one site said one was an Olympian, but she is remaining anonymous – but filed the report in Sacramento if anyone knows what former gymnasts live out there?) It will be interesting to see how this plays out!
Was Danscher the Olympian? I can’t spell her name.
I think it’s awful…and sadly am not surprised. I see he was a doctor (and still is?) for Twisters? I hope Jordyn wasn’t involved in all that.
I have to say, these girls/women wouldn’t be bringing this to light if it weren’t true. There’s no “plus” in it for them to have to come out with this. I wonder what triggered it though years later (maybe they came together and compared notes? figured out this needed to be stopped and they weren’t imagining things?) …
Sadly woman do lie in some of these cases and it makes it worse for those who really are abused. I read an article that said the Olympian who has not been named yet didn’t realize she was molested til she talked to some people at the Olympian thing they had this summer. This is a tough subject. Some people believe victs no matter what but we have had proven times where woman have lied ( The Duke case. Ty wanna Brown (sp) and other accounts ) it just makes it worse all around.
Yeah, that’s the worst part. That there are liars, so it makes any case seem suspicious. I for one have no clue why anyone would lie about such a thing. But then again, I am not familiar with the Duke case or Tywanna Brown or whatever.
The Duke Case is Where The Stripper Said She Was Raped but she wasn’t and in the past she had lied about being raped before and the Brown case is old but roo complicated for me to bring up. These cases are kids and that’s a lot more complicated.
I don’t remember but I don’t like to even think about this topic. There was a recent Stanford case where the kid only got 3 months of jail time and he was found guilty. At least the judge has since been removed. I’m sure you heard of that it was all over social media. Brock whats-his-guts. White privilege. Yada yada. Which I understand the anger but I hate that it was made into yet another race issue.
There was something like this about Peyton Manning when he was in college, right? Didn’t he molest or harass a sports trainer and it got covered up?
Dr Nassar is a really respected physician and there are many coming forward to support him. I’m not defending him by any means and if he is guilty he should burn. But there are some people that feel he is being convicted before trial simply because of the issues in USA gym right now.
One gymnast is claiming he molested her while her mother was present for the medical exam? Why didn’t the mother say something? Or go ballistic on him like I would have?
That’s why I said it’s a hard situation. With something like this more names will come out if it’s true if it’s not it will stay at 2 or close . If you go to a male doctor in Mass you need a female in the room. Pretty Ure it’s law.
He quit USAG months ago. Probably when he found out about the accusations. When all is said and done we will see how many names accuse him. Until then people need to stop speculating and throwing out rumors about alleged victims so that this situation will be handled fairly for all.
And my comments aren’t about this blog they are about idiots running their mouths convicting Nassar or bad mouthing potantial victims without knowing what they are talking about. Some people just need to just shut up and let the law do its job.
“There was something like this about Peyton Manning when he was in college, right? Didn’t he molest or harass a sports trainer and it got covered up?”
Sanity, yes, this is confirmed. Deadspin had a couple of articles on it–the whole thing is pretty vile, it made me lose a lot of respect for him. She was trying to look at his foot in the locker room and he suddenly teabagged her, and there were other incidents.
“I have to say, these girls/women wouldn’t be bringing this to light if it weren’t true. ”
I agree. Tawana Brawley and the Duke case are very rare outliers. As GTT says, the Brawley case was very complicated–she was a teenage girl who stayed out late and made up a crazy story about being gangraped to avoid being punished by her stepdad who was very abusive. The story really took off because of the racial element–Brawley is black and she said her rapists were white. It’s a LONG, crazy story but in the end there was no forensic evidence at all that she had been assaulted (the rape kit showed nothing) or that she’d spent the night lying outside on the ground as she’d claimed (showed no signs of hypothermia). But she’s the outlier as I said. Much more often is the Cosby/Don Peters scenario–man in power gets away with it, again and again, until finally enough people start to believe the victims. So I keep an open mind but I tend to believe the victims.
It seems that here in Europe the press is giving a lot of attention to the hacking issue, debating about it. Not about Simone or other athletes themselves, because the did what they had to do regarding their conditions and the Olympic comitee. but because of the system to obtain a permit to being able to legally use meds considered as doping. A lot of people have pointed out that there is no impartial medical court to determine these cases and that a lot of medics can be bought or bribed to sign the papers, especially for illnesses considered psicological or minor. Even an ex-cyclist have come across and said that the 90% of this kind of autorizations are only to improve an athlete’s performance. I have to say that I thought that there was more control on this and even when I don’t think that many athletes have done this, I am sure that some have used this subterfuge for sure. Maybe something good can come of this and the system improves, so the people who really need meds can be cleared in front both of the Olympic comité and the press and the cheaters can use it to gain an unfair advantage.
Aumour or however you spell her name is nothing g but. USAG troll. She loved everything they do . She probably gets paid to write nice things about them. The gym reporters spend more time kissing the ass of gymnasts than doing their job.
Did Valeri resign his job in WOGA and sell all his shares of WOGA? It is obviously a conflict of interest if he still has any relationship to WOGA when he is involved in selection of team members and hosting the training camp.
Quite a few gym people liked Dr Nassar’s new photo on fb. Not necessarily a statement of support, but interesting none the less:
– Cassie Rice
– Rita Wieber
– Mary Lee Tracy
– Melissa Marlowe
And Geddert’s daughter
There is going to have to be more than 2 alleged victims for this case to be proven. The girl that said it happened while her mother was in the room will also be suspect inside a court room. Interesting the entire list above are all woman.
You are assuming people are actually thinking before hitting the like button. Then again, I am sure he had a lot of positive impact on gymnasts,too. Don’t know what people close to him thought of him, but it may also be that people who know him personally are having a hard time believing it, so are going to be supportive until there is some proof.
Gabby isn’t promoting National Gymnastics Day for Usa gymnastics either…. this is odd. Unless she is holding out for more $$ but they are probably paying her laurie aly and simone the same with Nastia, Shawn and Jordyn getting a little bit less. #sad #kellogstour
and three more MSU gymnasts have come forward about Nassar. I honestly like what Atler said because its true, Marvin Sharp never took pictures of Sloan that we know of, but it doesn’t diminish the young girls he did take pictures of. Predators are not dumb and over twenty years probably know what they can get away with.
Atler diplomatic and supportive.
This has been a tough decision for me to make. But i feel it is the right thing to say.
This is referring to the allegations with Larry Nassar.
1) First I want everyone to know Larry has never done anything to me. I only really had problems with my ankle and he was always professional and i never had any bad experiences with him.
2) I will be choosing to support these women. I have a connection with USAG through my book, which makes things a little awkward, but I feel these women need support!
3) Please remember just because you have had experiences that were positive, does not mean these allegations did not happen.
4) Lets just be careful before we speak who we support. And ask yourself what if it is true, what am I doing to these women who have had this experience and been ignored, blamed, and unsupported. The main reason people hide these things as adults because of the backlash, imagine asking a child to do the same.
Didn’t Nassar kind of throw Atler under the bus a few years ago with some comments he made about an “anonymous” gymnast who wanted to change coaches? Not surprised she’s not speaking up on his behalf here.
Jane Doe’s lawyer says that 10 more people have come forward saying Nassar assaulted them ranging in age from teenagers to forties. If there are people in their teens then the statue of limitations would definitely not be up yet. It will be interesting to see if he is going to end up being charged in addition to being sued.
Is Simone the only one from the Final Five doing the tour full time? I’ve seen some snapchats but I literally don’t recognise who all the girls are except for Simone, Ashton and Mykayla. Where are Aly and Gabby? The whole thing just seems SO boring.
I went to the Seattle stop last week. Aly, Simone and Laurie were there, along with a sports macro pair and the rhythmic gymnast twins I’d never heard of. Oh, and some of the men’s team. No Gabby, no Madison. I’m guessing Madison is already at UCLA and Gabby’s just over it. Who knows.
Also how filled was the place and did you see Nastia refuse anyone an autograph ? I heard she refused a few the first night and ran past the others signing but she wouldn’t stop for anyone. Gotta love how she never changes lol
I’m a diehard gym fan and I’d never go to see this show/tour. Never watch DWTS either.
Nastia is such a beyotch I mean if little girls wanted my autograph I’d be so happy to make them happy. She’s just rotten to the core.
And what’s the aftermath with Gabby? She doing anything? Is Simone doing anything? I feel like all of a sudden there’s a lot of crickets…
Simone’s been all over the place. She was at NYFW, on Ellen, her Beats commercial was just released, her “book” is about to come out, she did a pretty painful piece with Vogue, she became a spokesperson for ADHD thanks to the WADA hacks, and she’s been at every show.
As for Gabby, who knows what she is doing? I saw on Twitter that she was in Indianapolis a few days ago. She also claimed to be doing some special project with her sister, (leotard designing? Douglas Family Gold?)
Simone now is branded to mattress firm, that’s two major pick ups (beats and mattress firm) post Olympics. She said they give mattresses to foster children. That’s awesome. This is what everyone thought would happen for gabby in 2012 and didn’t
I’d love to see Bailie actually compete again before college (wherever that is) after all the mystery and whatever happened with her not being picked for Worlds last year. And it’s very interesting that she has erased all signs of Florida from her life and is going on new officials. Doesn’t look like Peyton Ernst has been picked up gymnastically either.
I think Alyssa will still go to Florida. Rumours everywhere that Bailie and Peyton are looking at Bama and LSU, but I’d like to see them at Bama. Can’t say I’m overly heartbroken for Florida haha.. I like Kennedy Baker but as a team I am well and truly over the hype. I wonder if the young ones like Riley McCusker and Morgan Hurd will change their verbals from Florida too..
No Alyssa was really upset when Rhonda left and told by the new Florida coach to defer, normally they’d bring her on the team and redshirt her, but I don’t think the new Florida coach wants or likes a lot of Rhonda’s recruits. The deferral is to give her time to find a new school.