Apparently Iordache competed despite having a concussion and Ponor competed after a recent illness. The Romanian sports federation should just do an internal test where both gymnasts would have been safe
I know that gymnasts must compete with injuries, but this really should have been an internal test and the athlete selected afterwards. It’s obvious that both athletes are competitors. Both are already seasoned. If the choice is between them, it should have been done in the safest manner possible. Why risk the only asset that Romania may retain after the Olympics?
Off topic. I have been re-wacthing Olympic trials 2012.
Interesting … And I had forgotten how “many” minor and a bit bigger mistakes that did happen. The other thing I notice (since we lately have looked at possible top 3 TF scenarios) is how it looked from a strictley ranking perspective back in 2012.
It is only on floor that the later chosen team were able to put up the 3 best scores.
I feel as if it was definitely trials that solidified the deal alternates wise. I remember I honestly didn’t pay attention to ebee much at all at nats (and was like whoa at trials, partially because of NBC coverage of course), and Anna and Sarah weren’t considered definites as alternates until I saw them at trials. Although I did have Alicia replacing Anna. Should be interesting to see how the Ragan/Maggie/Ashton/Madison/Mykayla battle comes out at trials.
Agreed. Especially since she was the only one of the two event specialists to score 15+ on both of her events both days at Nationals and Trials.
I know it’s highly unlikely that an alternate is used, especially at the Olympics, but I feel like you’d want to have the three athletes that would give you the most bang for your buck (so to speak). Do disrespect to Anna, but I would have had Ebee, Sarah and Alicia as the alternates.
This woman is amazing. I understand that her form present a lot of problems, but to land this vault at her age when I haven’t ever seen Peña and others land one is really great in my opinion. I would love for her to have a good score at Rio.
I too had the impression that her height was way better than Pena’s or Karmarkar’s and that she has room to land more safely. But, in any case, she is amazing. They should get a tribute or something when she retires for good (in 2050) or something.
It’s a risk, yes. I suppose it will depend on the field. If she thinks she can score high enough to get into finals without it, I agree she should reserve it for the finals, when you have to give it all. But if she is at risk of no qualifying at all because there is a lot of potentially high scoring vaulters, she can’t take the chance. In any case, we will see. 🙂
I was so happy yesterday when I saw that Lari was competing… I really thought that she was losing her last train to the Olympics if she didn’t compete and Cata did well. And after so many problems and such a long time without competing, I think she did very well. But I don’t know if she will be the chosen one. I would like for her to be, but Cata has shown a lot of medal potential with her improved beam and floor and I don’t know if Lari is going to be ready enough in a few weeks to be the chosen one. I wish she is…but I feel like the Romanian federation is going to be blinded by the medal promise Cata show, specially on beam, and disregard Lari in her favour. Do any of you know when they absolutely have to decide? Last weeks of July or first of August? Lari would benefit of as much time as possible.
Also, today was the end of the Russian Cup and Valentina announced the provisional team for Rio: http://rewritingrussiangymnastics.blogspot.com.es/2016/07/provisional-teams-for-rio-announced.html. They are Melnikova, Aliya, Seda, Dasha and Paseka. Paseka, Melnikova and Aliya were virtually locks if there are not injuried. Seda is the surprise, because, quite frankly, I didn’t think they were going to risk it with her after her falls at Worlds last year, Event Finals at Nationals and Euros, but she has been silver in AA in both Nationals and Russian Cup, so after Komova’s retirement from the road to Río, maybe it was the best choice. The one who potentially is going to be screwed over is Dasha. If Afan is ready to do her floor, she is going, no question asked. But there are rumours that they are going to find another floor specialist if Afan can’t compete. Russia’s scores in floor are really abysmal and they have to fix that if they want to have any chances of a medal in the team final. They are talking about Akhaimova, the winner of today’s floor final, but there are only rumours. I didn’t know of her beforehand.
I don’t know about the FIG license or if they can have it on time. But in any case, Russia’s floor scores are really worrying. I think they are taking Seda because being the second in the AA twice they really don’t have more options. Kharenkova is out of the picture because of an injury and neither Paseka or Dasha can do beam. If they are taking two specialists, they need other gymnast that can fit anywhere, especially on beam and floor. Despite her inconsistencies, Seda is the best chance they got in that regard right now. Specially if Aliya can’t compete. She had a messy competition in the Russian Cup and it’s rumored is because of an injury (wrist?). If she can’t do all the apparatus, they need another AA gymnast.
Dasha poses a problem because she is not as a sure medal value as she used to be. In the European Championship, she came in second, but after Melnikova was pulled off, as she had a better score than her. And in the Russian Cup, both Melnikova and Kapitonova were ahead of her. I think that several of the Russians at this point, includying a healthy Aliya and Melnikova, can score the same as her. So to take one event gymnast to Rio when it is more than possible that you need someone to fill some blanks if one of your more breakable gymnasts get injuried. I would take Kapitonova, who have great bars (same medal potential as Dasha) and a better floor. But in any case I don’t see Russia choosing a team only based on individual medal potential. And I don’t think they should do that. We all know that the gold is USA’s to win or loose, but a bronze medal is within their graps or even a silver one if China has mistakes, so I don’t see them disregarding the team.
BTW, I find it hilarious that Nabieva did so good both in Nationals and Russian Cup. She was fourth in the AA and bronze on vault. With the fourth score in the AA, it wouldn’t be so strange for her to make the team in any other country. I mean, I don’t think that is going to happen, but it would be great.
Shawn doesn’t needs Nastia so why she is doing this makes me wonder about her sanity. Nastia already got a coke Commercial out of the deal where she talks about being friends and since no one likes Nastia pretending to be Shawn friend makes sense for hwr but not for Shawn. Neither of them being in commercials 8 years after the fact makes any sense neither gymnastics was legendary. This is all weird lol
Maybe their husbands became really good friends? I can see Nastia and Shawn be friends too, they’re adult now, and they’re out of that crazy pressure-cooker, competitive atmosphere. I feel like Shawn is happy and low-maintenance and she can be friends with everyone.
Your list is
1. Fan Yilin 7.0
2. Rebecca Downie 6.9
3. Elisabeth Seitz 6.8
3. Tan Jiaxin 6.8
5. Madison Kocian 6.7
5. Daria Spiridonova 6.7
5. Shang Chunsong 6.7
5. Natalia Kapitonova 6.7 – Debuted at Russian Champs, not sure she hit it
9. Gabby Douglas 6.6 –> This was credited, but it should have been lower (american cup)
9. Sophie Scheder 6.6
9. Daria Skrypnik 6.6
12. Aliya Mustafina 6.5
12. Brenna Dowell 6.5
12. Liu Tingting 6.5
12. Luo Huan 6.5
12. Huang Huidan 6.5 (credited, she went for a higher difficulty and missed connections)
My apologies if this was discussed already but I haven’t seen it. I’m sorry, but there is no way Gabby appears in Teen Vogue with Simone unless Marta and Steve have already told her she is going to Rio. This, unfortunately, is going to be the BS storyline of the Olympics.
Technically, Gabby WAS an Olympian, but the fact they are calling Simone an Olympian at the same time implies that they’ve already made the team. With Simone, that’s a given, but it shouldn’t be with Gabby.
When Vogue shoot this, it prob looked like Gabby was a shoe-in. I still think that if Gabby performs at trials, the way she did at Nationals, Marta may make her an alternate. She just won’t be able to justify taking her, no matter how much Penny tells her to do so.
HONESTLY I came to realization today when remembering how every 4 year fans are writing gabby off of their teams, as well as the occasional blog or two. She might actually get left off this team. She literally needs a performance of a lifetime if Maggie brings it at trials. The amanar was just all talk, a even though she just mentioned how she needs it to even possibly reach Simone, it’s not going to happen. However, gabby does have that spot still, thanks to Maggie’s less than stellar performance at P&G’s and Marta thinking hers is a fluke. But there is no guarantee for her at this point, and she’s lucky that her competitive history helps her.
But about the article, I have to say that I really enjoyed the pics except for the fact that they whitewashed/photoshopped them both so much. Some of the quotes made me squirm a bit
Yeah they do! I’m enjoying this show. But Aly’s sister Chloe is a little snot. She gets too much camera time especially when she never has anything nice to say.
The other diver, Jordan Windel, does anyone know if he made the team?
Chloe is not a snot. I am sorry buy why can’t Aly take a nap in hwr room Chloe is supposed to creep around the house because queen Aly needs a nap in the middle of the living room ? Sorry but Aly chose the life 0f a gymnast. The rest of the family having to bend over backwards for Queen Aly and her nap was total reality show over kill.
Don’t know, gymbee. Twitter and Facebook’s gymnastic news channels usually present the possible links and feeds the day before a competition start, so I hope tomorrow or the day after we will have some news in that regard. I saw the 2012 Trials on YouTube next day because of the time difference, but I don’t know if we will be able to see trials live this year. I hope so, anyway. I’ll let you know if I find something tomorrow. 😉
A pleasure, Gymbee. I think we will be able to see it. I could see the American Cup and could connect to the P&G Champioships. Couldn’t see it because of the time different, but I did connect. They had an international feed for Trials in 2012, so I hope they let us see it without changing the IP. In any case, I am very grateful for Internet. In 2008, for example, I was only able to see the Olympics and the Europeans, as it was the only thing they broadcast in the Spanish TV. Now I can see almost all the competitions in the world, even Canadian, German and USA Trials and the Russian Cups. And if I can’t see it, there are videos in YouTube! Even with all the confusion that we sometimes feel regarding the feeds and the times, I am very grateful of this age’s advances regarding Internet broadcasting.
Yeah, it’s amazing. I remember that I began to like gymnastics in 2003 more or less…Watching Khorkina and I remember very vividly Holly Vise on UB, when they forgot to pin her number in her back and she had to wait a long time because she couldn’t compete without number…And I just could see Europeans and Worlds/Olympics and not always, because RTVE didn’t buy the rights to broadcast all the competitions so, sometimes, no gymnastics for me, hehe. And they YouTube and Internet exploded and I could see everything, on live and the past competitions. And I told to myself: “Okay, it’s an old competition, but I don’t know how it ends, so it doesn’t matter” and I watched 1996 Olympics finals in 2010 like they were happening right now. God bless Internet!
Bless you all! It will be 10am Sat in Aust so that’s perfect for day 1! Not perfect on day 2 when it will be my Monday morning at work when the team is announced. Already plotting ways to leave my desk to go cry somewhere in private! Haha.
Cata has been designated as the flag-bearer for Romania for Río Olympics. I thought that the flag-bearer have to be one of the participants in the Olympics. Is that so or can be someone important for the country even if he/she doesn’t participate in that edition? I can’t remember any example of Spanish flag bearers who didn’t participate in those Games afterwards. Even Prince (now King) Philip, who was the flag bearer in Barcelona 92, was going to compete. Do you think that she is already designated for the spot or that this could be some kind of consolation price? https://www.facebook.com/olympicromania/photos/a.152093358199061.38495.103007789774285/1134215569986830/?type=3&theater
Apparently not. They say they feel that after nationals, they don’t feel Lari can prepare efficiently, given the time left. Some are also saying Lari’s back is now bothering her, after that bars dismount.
Personally, they prob chose Cata before Nationals.
F**k, then. Can’t say is a good decision or not, but I feel so freaking sorry for Lari… I hope she keeps competing and kick some butts in Tokyo…Because looking at the rest of Romanian field, I really think she is the last resort of Romanian gymnastics.
No Larisa should retire and tell Romania to find a new way for their pathetic program to survive without her or maybe Queen Cata can try not showing up only for olympic glory. She’s no better than Gabby
Two things. I predicted this months ago when a team wasn’t qualified. Reason: They think the FIG will bribe some country or they will not to send an athlete last minute, and because Larissa is there FIG will give her the spot. They may already have promises in place. Heck have the Belarusian fake heads from AOGC stay home so Larissa can go. I’m pretty sure both of them will compete. They will have some crappy emergency vote…. if they nominated Larissa this is all less likely. Secondly I think Larissa is way more injured than they are saying and is seen as unreliable at delivering team medals. Her falls on beam, and her inconsistencies are not the Romanian way. Just my opinion but if Larissa is healthy they will both compete. Because Bruno Grande will see them as poor Romania.
I feel terrible for Iordache, but after seeing that bar dismount I am almost happy. I really don’t know if she would have survived the Olympic meet – she still looks really fragile and it would be awful for her to have permanent damage to her back. I just hope she continues on and we see her dominating the next quad. She’s so super talented and seems to be a genuinely nice person, just bad luck. The story with so many gymnasts, sadly.
And yes – I bet they decided before the national meet to take Cata. Just a feeling when she started to post herself training bars.
I have trouble believing that she uploaded videos of her training UB twelve years after Athens “just for fun”. You don’t try things that can potentially injury you just for fun. She is going for the AA. She can’t reach the podium, but at least Romania will have a representation in the AA final. With her beam, floor and vault, she could reach the AA final just with the minimal requirements in the UB.
I hope Larisa retires and tells Romania to go fuck themselves. They sent her out to compete at Nationals with a concussion and then gave the spot to their spoiled brat star from 8 years ago. I don’t care how many people love Cata I hope she tanks at the Olympics and falls every time out. Larisa is the only reason the Romania program stayed alive the last 4 years. Shit like this is why I am bored of writing this blog.
It’s stuff like this that reminds you all over again why this sport is just so heartbreaking and seemingly unfair sometimes. I’m so sad for Larisa. She’s broken because she alone has kept Romanian gymnastics competitive and relevant for four years.. Then gets royally screwed right at the most important part of the quad. Poor thing. Hopefully she has some good support systems around her.
I think both Cata and Larissa will stick around at least until next year, as the European Championship 2017 are in Romania. There is no team competition next year, so they would try to present the best image as possible of Romanian gymnastics.
I hope that, after this, the FIG reconsiders its rules and allows the medalist from the previous Worlds to clasify to the Olympics automatically, as the medalist from the Event Finals do. It’s unfair that the other medalist of the previous Worlds can go and Larissa has to sit out when she earned the spot for herself in 2015. They both could have gone to Rio if the FIG would have applied the same measuring rod to AA medalist.
Iordache can only replace Ponor. If another country pulls out, they go down the list of reserve countries from the qualifying (test) event. I’m not sure what happens after all of those options are exhausted.
Even the tripartate invitation has so many bureaucratic rules associated with it, Romania wouldn’t be given the invitation since it fields athletes to the Olympics in other events.
I agree with Rocio, it’s a shame and it would have been nice for the FIG to have more foresight into these issues.
Bringing Iordache really serves two purposes. 1- a realistic back-up to Ponor. 2- another talking point for media centered on gymnastics, specifically Romania. I’m sure she’ll be on the camera in the arena whenever Ponor competes.
That has already been fixed, unfortunately it doesn’t go into effect until the 2020 Olympics. But at least this will not happen to another gymnast. It’s a shame they couldn’t just amend it for this year.
I’m happy someone posted about this! I was just about to. Maggie Haney is actually over it today. She followed gabby a lot hmmm…I thought her bars looked better than P&G’s though, and that’s not saying much. Maggie’s pass that she stuck actually looked pretty good. Not much on Aly, but that’s okay since PT vids and interviews will be up sooner or later. Looks like gabby, Simone, Aly, and Laurie are stacked with media, while everyone else looks to have the occasional person lol.
I don’t understand that. Madison was fifth in P&G championships, wasn’t she? I don’t know how it could hurt her to present herself as an AA gymnast that can help in other apparatus besides bars (she won’t be used if she makes the team, but that’s besides the point). In the old system, as the fifth AAers, she would have been taken to the Olympics. I don’t know how it could hurt her chances. If she is not at risk of injury, I smell shit.
@Sanitynmotion I agree. Especially since Marta said she has “no problem” with gabby not doing her amanar and Maggie clearly could. The team is so much more clear now. Saving Madison’s ankles could only mean that she’s saving her for the next competition which is only the Olympics
I am not totally convinced. Not because of Gabby (I am pretty much resigned, like all of you, that she is going to be on the team) and Maggie, if she doesn’t present herself as the second coming of Chellsie Memmel, is not going to be in the team. The problem I see is the potential situation of Kocian being screwed over for Ashton for the UB specialist spot. I don’t think that USA needs one UB specialist, as some of you have already said, but it seems to be Martha’s idea, specially if Maggie doesn’t make an stellar comeback. What if she is telling Kocian something along the lines of what she told to Alicia and Vise and, in the end, she gets screwed over by Ashton if Ashton gets a higher UB scores and she haven’t shown in trials other usable events?
Same. Along with gabby and Maggie planning to throw upgraded vaults, she was planning on doing her DTY, which really would’ve helped her make a case to be a potential backup in a TF situation, but really all this is telling me is that Marta is in a “I’ve seen enough let me just enjoy the show” kind of mode.
I agree with sanity. That’s the exact team and alternates. Seems shady for Marta to basically seal the deal in a press conference telling Madison not to vault. Must be nice to be a WOGA athlete. She probably told Maggie not to risk the Amanar so she has no chance of beating Gabby. And told Gabby no need to throw it because she’s in no matter what.
That’s all my speculation H. Why else would Maggie be putting videos up of her doing the Amanar at the gym then not show it a trials KNOWING she HAS to have it to be on the team? And at the same time Gabby feels no pressure to throw one and is fine with sticking with a DTY. And Martha telling Kocian not to worry about vault. Just seems like everyone already knows their place is doing what they are told. I’m glad Martha has been throwing some shade at Gabby saying she’s not working hard enough and putting pressure to do the Amanar but lets face it, she’s on the team no matter what and Aly or Laurie will get screwed out of AA in her favor.
From Washington post: …. Nonetheless, Karolyi wasted no energy Thursday on hiding her disappointment that Douglas has decided against performing the sport’s most difficult vault, the Amanar, here at U.S. Olympic trials. The Amanar, which few female gymnasts are capable of executing, dramatically raises the degree-of-difficulty and, as a result, increases a gymnast’s score if properly performed. Karolyi said she has stressed the importance of mastering it to Douglas for months.
“We give her enough time, and we talked about that the whole year…., but it looks like mentally she is not ready to do it,” Karolyi said. “Supposedly at the home gym she is training it. But when it comes [time] to go up on the podium and present it, she has some doubts. So we don’t want to over-push for safety reasons. It has to be their decision.”
I’m kind of surprised that she told Kocian not to vault but is okay with her doing FX. Isn’t that pretty rough/pounding on the ankles? I know the chance of her being needed there are slim, but still…
I do think that the team named at trials will be Biles, Raisman, Douglas, Hernandez, and Kocian with Alt: Nichols, Locklear, Skinner, but I feel like we might here about an injury at the pre-Rio death camp. No question that the 5 named to the actual team once they all board the plane will be the 5 on the team, but unlike in 2012, I can see something happening to the intended line up at camp.
Doesn’t matter if it’s ready or not. If she can’t compete it, then it’s a non-starter, or should be.
I really feel like this is utter nonsense being used to support the notion that they will take Gabby for her vault too. In reality, she won’t be competing it at these Olympics. It’s just fodder talk to make the stupid fans think there’s a reason for taking GD besides her lackluster bars.
This is even more reason Maggie needs to compete it, NOW. Did Marta tell her not to?
And I totally think it’s weird Kocian is told to compete floor but not vault, when I remember a nationals or some meet where she crunched her ankle doing a tumbling pass on her floor.
I think she told her that she didn’t need to do it bc it wasn’t worth risking the injury? (I’m not sure of what was said exactly, but something along those lines). If you watch the interviews on USAG Youtube, you can tell that Maggie is the only one of the 6 interviewed that seemed really down/near tears which is heartbreaking.
A VERY small part of me still hopes that Marta hasn’t finalized the team and maybe wants to give Maggie more time to heal since she HAS seen her do the Amanar since the injury. MAYBE, just maybe (and this is such a long shot, but a girl can dream), she wants Maggie to preserve her body and have the Amanar ready to go in a few weeks if needed, knowing that Kocian is super fragile. If she breaks, I can see Maggie being the first one put in, over Locklear.
I agree. I wish Maggie would just go knock it out of the park and prove everyone wrong. But it just seems impossible now, and someone got real with her and told her she’s probably only getting alternate at best. Wish we still had worlds Maggie right now.
God, this annoys the crap out of me (from the Washington Post article):
“Douglas, for her part, insists she will have plenty of time to perfect her Amanar in the weeks that follow Sunday’s Olympic team selection. ‘It’s ready; it’s ready,’ Douglas said Thursday. ‘It’s just here, I have to be a little bit more prepared.’”
Hey Gabby, if it’s so “ready” that you put an emphasis on the statement by repeating it, then it sure as hell should be “prepared.” Words mean things.
Well with Gabby and Madison on the team, either Laurie or Aly will be getting screwed out of an AA spot. You can’t bring Madison and leave her off of bars in prelims. Bars are basically the only place where Gabby makes an impact in TF and I just can’t see them leaving her off of bars in QF. It looks like Aly may very well be left out of the AA and off of bars in prelims. I could definitely see this happening if Laurie decides to go pro after making the team/withdraws her commitment from Florida and states that she plans to go pro after the Olympics.
That’s what I’ve been saying, and why I think it’s stupid to bring a bars specialist. Because Gabby is basically the bars specialist already. You take Gabby for bars plus a specialist, someone is getting screwed in Quals for AA potential.
I feel like it’s going to be Aly too even though Aly beat Laurie at nationals.
Just watch, all of a sudden Laurie will get 2nd behind Simone at Trials.
After Classics, Aly basically said she knows she is not going to Rio for bars. So I think she was prob told that she won’t do AA. But I’m still holding on to the hope that Marta will reward her and Laurie for their hard work.
Marta has been throwing lots of shade publically towards Gabby so who knows lol.
Honestly, I would just take Skinner instead of Gabby for the amanar and Simone can do bars. Stupid lol.
I completely agree on Aly, I really want her to get an AA shot.
My perfect team would be (given that Gabby will be there):
Lauren, Simone, Aly, Gabby, Mykayla/Maggie.
Then they could put Lauren, Simone and Gabby up for bars in TF. Lauren, Simone, Aly and Mykayla to vault in QF as we all know Gabby’s Amanar is non-existent.
I agree with Exgymgurl…have you seen Kyla’s resume? Leaving out the fact that she won junior nationals in ’09 and ’10 (and Classics in ’09 and ’11), she won AA in the Junior division of Pan Ams in ’09 and ’10, Jesolo in ’11, and won the senior AA in Jesolo in ’12. Not to mention a slew of silver medals in AA competitions and golds in EF.
That’s not true. Kyla had hwr own resume and she was held back.arta made her lower her start value on bars so Nastia could make the team. Kyla was at her peak in 2012 but than the head games by Marta started
Wouldn’t it be kind of stupid and risky to debut a skill for the first time during the olympics?! If it’s so ready, maybe she should test it a bit first to make sure she can keep her nerves in check and land it in competition.
Maggie has been getting shafted because she interferes with Aly or Gabby doing AA. The way things are looking, I’d say more with Gabby than Aly, even if she shares more overlapping events with Aly.
What I don’t understand? Why is Marta keep throwing shade at Gabby publically, if she is taking her to Rio. It can’t be good for marketing or for Marta who will look like she is taking an athlete to Rio who doesn’t deserve to be going.
It’s obvious Marta doesn’t want to take her so I’m still hoping that if GD totally blows at Trials, Marta will have an out to leave her at home, given her previous public comments. Fingers crossed lol
Maybe Penny is pressuring her more than we know. Marta just needs to do what is best for team and she can do what she wants because of her success. It’s her last year so hopefully she will do the right thing. I doubt it but one can hope.
Article all about “the fifth spot” with no mention of Maggie, only Madison and Ashton. Says that there’s basically only one position open (because of gabby, Simone, Aly, and Laurie)
“Locklear is well aware that Karolyi has five women in mind and can name four of them pretty easily. It’s that last one, though, that will be tricky. Maybe it’s Locklear. It’s more likely it’s Kocian. At least, at the moment. And that’s where things can get stressful.”
“It’s hard because we’re really good friends and we both want each other to do their best,” Locklear said. “I’m pretty sure she watches me too. We’re competitive with each other but we’re best friends too.”
*ALSO. Please watch Simone’s interview on the USAG YouTube page. She throws shade to gabby without throwing shade if you know what I mean, by mentioning that she can’t think that the Olympics will be handed to her, or else she won’t practice or perform as well. She thinks that everyone has to work just as hard as everyone else to get to the Olympics. Ugh love this girl.
I think someone here said Maggie will not be doing her amanar at trials?? Is this true? If so I’m kind of gutted. That means gabby is not only a shoe-in, but a complete lock barring a “nastia a la 2012 trials” styled flop or major injury (which I’m not wishing on her).
The only thing that could have kept gabby off the team was Marta’s lust for a 3 up amanar, with a person capable of doing a good AA set, and a legitimate reason to leave gabby at home. No amanar, no rio for Maggie 😦 Other than alternate.
I just re watched the 2012 team finals and honestly gabby is an entirely different person now. Annoying then? Sure. But her bars had life and she was definitely putting in work. She did have a bit of naivety, or something along those lines. Compare that with now… She’s just worse in every way. Obnoxiously aloof and self assured; labored sets; pressure stricken.
I’m not trying to be mean. I feel for her in many ways, but she’s an adult now. Maybe I’m just annoyed that she shouldn’t be such a shoe-in. While people will tune in to watch gymnastics at the Olympics because of her (4 year fans), will anyone buy any products because of her? She’s got a spot on the short list because she’s in the top 5 (mostly because Norah and bailie are gone and Maggie was injured), but so did Ebbie Price and it didn’t get her a spot. She’s there for marketing purposes, but honestly she sucks at being a spokesperson, so can we just sub in a healthy Maggie or someone with an event medal chance? Ugh.
Mostly I’m pissed that she will probably also get a shot at AA and cut either Laurie or Aly’s legitimate shots at the slot.
Everything you’ve said is spot on. I can’t understand the hardcore gym fans who are dead set on defending her and claiming that anyone offering up criticism of Gabby is focused solely on her for no reason.
There IS a reason. NONE of the other top women, not even SIMONE for God’s sake, talk like they are already on the team. Gabby has crossed the line from confident to cocky and that is not an attractive quality. Yes, she can deliver under pressure, but so can any of the 5 US women who are likely going to the Olympics.
Count me in as someone who is super annoyed that she is a shoe in. With all the talk about the Amanar and how it is ready and how she is doing it consistently in training, etc, how come Martha said in the interview, “Supposedly at the home gym she is training it?” Does she not do it at training camps? Have her coaches never taken a video of this alleged vault with their phones? We’ve seen Maggie do it since her injury…where’s even the SLIGHTEST bit of proof that Gabby has one? Martha makes it sound like she hasn’t seen it since her comeback (but that could be bc of the language barrier).
I think barrier might have been the wrong word. But I think she still sometimes she still throws around words that add a great deal of meaning to a sentence without realizing it. In my mind, the word “supposedly” in that context would indicate to me that Martha has never seen Gabby train an Amanar this quad, either in person or on video.
We all know Gabby doesn’t have an amanar and we all know this is being done to put Gabby on the team without her having to compete it or prove herself. She’s Nastia 2.0 almost. Plus it gives her a means to take the AA spot from Laurie or Aly. Such BS. We know Marta knows the real amanar status too.
Maggie should do the amanar if she wants a shot but she sees the writing on the wall and knows she’s being left for Gabby no matter what. She has to stay in good graces with Marta if she wants to be alternate and hope Kocian breaks herself. This kind of crap literally makes me root for China.
Thanks for posting 🙂 still doesn’t have really anything negative to say about gabby, I feel like she’s defending her almost. And the fact that she said she’ll definitely use someone particularly good on bars that can contribute to something else kind of confirms madison. I love how she mentions the team isn’t already decided lol she’s so funny.
Thank you for sharing this. I do think we need to have some sort of reform in NCAA gymnastics & going pro. It doesn’t make sense to penalize our gymnasts, and I feel like it was unlikely this was the spirit of the rule when it was first developed. JMHO.
I really hope Maggie does well, but I get the feeling that no matter how well she does she will get the 2012 Asac treatment. I think she will probably get low balled or be an alternate even if she beats others. I think the team will be Simone, Laurie, Aly, Gabby, and Madison(possibly Ashton) unless someone else manages to win trials and guarantee their spot which isn’t likely. (Even if someone did I wouldn’t be surprised if their spot wasn’t so guaranteed once they got to camp)
That’s going to be the team no matter how Maggie does, but I think there is a real chance of Maddie breaking before Rio. I just can’t see Ashton being anything more than an alternate and even then, I don’t think Martha would risk putting her in on a 5 person team when she can physically only do 2 events.
agree. Although I think that if Maddie breaks, they’ll just keep saying she “might” be able to do it and they won’t replace her with Ashton or anyone else, because of the whole Morgan White thing. PLUS, that would mean that they wouldn’t have her in bars for quals, which means someone else gets a shot at the AA. Personally I think that’s Marta’s train of thought… Kocian makes it to Olympics before breaking? great! A bars specialist score and an outside chance at an event medal… She breaks? Fine! Aly/Laurie gets a shot at the AA alongside Simone, Gabby, and Aly/Laurie.
The thing about Morgan White is that she was replaced AT the Olympics and went through the trauma of having her credentials cut up in front of her, being escorted out of the Olympic Village, etc. They would never replace someone once they leave for Rio but it could possibly happen at the camp if an injury occurs.
What the actual F is Gabby doing?? So much drama.
I’m super curious if the ‘powers that be’ (ahem.. Steve P ahem..) had any role in this, particularly if Kittia and Christian were safely training Gabby and it has been perceived as holding her back.
I so agree, if I’m thinking of the right interview. Didn’t she talk about “it’s just such an honor to make it trials” like a million times? It felt a little like she was trying to convince herself that making it that far was enough… 😦
Even in the ranch documentary when they talked about SCAM they said Maggie proved she deserves to be at the “elite level”. Which really rubbed me the wrong way. She was top 3 AA at championships in 2014 and 2015 and would’ve been 2nd AA in the world if it hadn’t been for politics. She’s been told so many times that she’s not good enough and just lucky to be here. I don’t understand why she’s so shafted and hated? I’m not trying to stan wondering what the deal is.
I think when Gabby inevitably (hopefully) doesn’t make the AA after cutting someone else’s chances at the slot.. and I think it will (hope it will) be Aly that goes with Simone to AA finals… They will say gabby was secretly injured for the last few months, but wanted to give the Olympics her all to “help the team” or “contribute” to her country… they will spin spin spin the story to save face for bringing a non bars specialist with no amanar.
It’s definitely gabby. No mention of kittia in her articles and she’s nowhere to be found…even in her PT photos. I want to know the story oh so bad, but I can’t think of reasons other than clashing personalities. DRA. MA.
Gotta create some drama so that Douglas Family Gold gets picked up for a second season.
I cannot understand firing your coach the week of Olympic Trials and a month before the games…as if she wasn’t already struggling with distractions. It seems like it would be worth it to just stick it out. Four more weeks and you never have to see her again if you don’t want to.
And how awkward for Gallardo to have to go back to the gym that kittia owns after all this?
Rumors being thrown around is that it has to do with the amanar, not enough sets, or she just wanted a more personable coach.
What’s surprising is that Gallardo and gabby are still at the gym…in which kittia owns.
This screams crazy momager Natalie getting in the way of gabby’s training, again. Gabby probably whining to her mom about kittia not caring and Natalie working some kind of deal. They did a great job of hiding it, even with kittia rt’ing all things gabby lately on Twitter.
Marta is probably just done. She’s making it easier and easier to be left off the team.
Gabby is an adult she can make her own decisions j0w hoe about we let her live with the consequences of it ? The weird, funny thing is she was allowed to stay at that gym. What is wrong with Kitiia? Is she that desperate to have her name attached to an Olympian ? Rumors before about Nia leaving that gym were attached to the coach Gabby brought with her being creepy and yet that same coach is still Gabby’s coach and they are not training at Kittia’s gym even though she has been fired ? If Gabby is holding hwr ground over not wanting to d0 that Amanar I say good for her. She’s finally taking a stand. I guess we will see if it’s the opposite . I don’t buy the Amanar excuse. There is more to this than we will ever know.
Gabby wanting to put more effort into her training does not sound like Gabby at all. I think Kittia wants her to train the amanar but Gabby – being the lazy, spoiled brat that she is – doesn’t want to.
Good luck getting any endorsements after the Olympics. My god, her personality/attitude is coming off even worse than Nastia in 08.
Gabby did poorly at Nationals and has disappointed Marta by not having an Amanar. Marta says she was given plenty of time to get it back. Fact: Gabby doesn’t have it back. Fact: Gabby cannot take responsibility for her shortcomings. Fact: Gabby loves playing the blame game. It happened to Excalibur, it happened to Chow, why wouldn’t she throw Kittia under the bus?
I want some of what Nastia is taking. Fullgymnastics’ Twitter quotes her saying: “We can conquer gold on UB bars” and saying that three of five spots are already designated: “Simone and, of course, Raisman and Douglas”. If she really said this, what possesed her to afirm such an improper thing in public just before Trials?
Até a Nastia admitindo que 3/5 vagas já estão decididas: "Simone e, claro, Raisman e Douglas." #SanJose2016
Go to Irish Daniel’s twitter account (@daniel_san2013), he posted a good website to watch on, you need to make an account and then you’re good to go, no pop up ads and the stream won’t drop out after a time limit.
Sorry about yesterday, H. I had to got up at 5:00 in the morning to catch a train and I was totally knackered at 12. I am going to try to find the trials on YouTube or something to see them! It seems it was interesting. Gabby on 7th? That was way more that just a bad day in one event.
Re: Gabby firing Kittia
According to a source close to Kittia who asked not to be named, Kittia and Gabby have basically been butting heads. Gabby has missed a lot of training for other “duties” and apparently it’s gotten out of control. Kittia has been very upset with Gabby lately and Gabby just decided to part ways with her and train with Christian for the remainder of the season.
Natalie posted on Twitter that Gabby did not have a coach change–she has been coached by him since she arrived at Buckeye. She said that since Gabby can only have one coach on the floor, she chose it to be Christian because of their better chemistry.
How sad,if Kittia has been trying to bring out the best in her and if Gabby just didn’t want to work that dang hard. Not a bad FX for Gabby, still didn’t connect the back tuck to her new pass. She smiled and actually showed some spirit.