The skating lesson: Tabitha Yim

 

Some of you probably have no clue who Tabitha Yim is but I had such an unbridled hate for this girl back in the day all I can do it laugh about it now.

People praised her as artistic and every time they did I wanted to scream. She was this spastic ball of arm waving and stiffness that everything about her and her gymnastics drove me crazy but the one thing Tabitha did that a lot of gymnasts I dislike never do is she changed my mind.

Not her gymnastics. I think I will always dislike her gymnastics but how do you not respect someone that proves you wrong?

Tabitha was always inconsistent and spastic and injury prone. I figured by 2004 she would be dead and buried but not only did she show up in 2004  she finished 4th at Trials and probably would have been on the Olympic team if she didn’t get injured. Okay so she didn’t actually prove me wrong with the specifics to her gymnastics but as I watched the 2004 Trials back in the day she kept hitting that  by the time Trials ended I remember thinking to myself I hoped she made the team.  If you know me once I hate you I don’t change my mind.

If you have some watch the video above.Tabitha competed at the Worlds as a gymnast but she also made it to the novice level as a Figure Skater at the same time. She talks about her time in skating and gymnastics where she trained with some well known US skaters.  (watch  her facial expression change when she talks about Sasha Cohen) About how once she made the world team for Gymnastics the people at the US Skating wanted to let her petition to Nationals and why she turned it down.

She currently coaches the gymnastics team at the university of Arizona and graduated from Stanford with a degree in Biology.

 

I am off to watch some videos of her gymnastics which I have not done in years. I want to see if she is as spastic and annoying as I remember:)

 

2001 Tabitha was spastica. 2004 Tabitha was more calm but the floor in 2001 is what drove me nuts about her. It’s Nastia-esque. The arm waving exists

 

173 Responses to “The skating lesson: Tabitha Yim”

  1. sanitynmotion Says:

    My friend helped coach her…she likes her (my friend). Of course I had no idea who she was because I had my head up my arse in 2004.
    I think her intro to the floor though was that arm waving thing. Kind of awkward. You know, the entry on the floor before the music starts?
    Impressive how she was top of her game in figure skating, too? Who knew. Wow.
    So it’s settle Sasha is a beyotch.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      She never says anythig bad about Sasha the expression just goes blank.

      She seems like a nICe kid but back in 2001 OMG I hated her.

      She wasn’t really a top skater. she never made it past the first qualifying meet.

  2. dianajc99 Says:

    I remember there I went to one of Beth R’s lessons about stretching and Tabitha was one of the demo girls on the video.at the end of a leg stretch she accidentally kicks Beth in the face.

  3. G Says:

    lol GTT, your hatred of her makes me laugh. I’m actually pretty fond to her because she seemed so genuinely nice and very focused. Plus I liked how she would talk to herself, it was quirky.

    I can get behind your issues with her floor though, she was definitely one of those gymnasts that they tried to portray as the artistic girl (like Nastia as you said) even though her dance was nothing special. I wanted her on the team in 2004 too, she would have been a better option then some others if she had been healthy.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      That’s what I mean tho. I’m not sure why I hated her so much. There was something about those early 2001 gymnasts I didn’t like as a group except Tasha. Kupets is another one I could not stand but I still dislike her.lol Mary Poppins that she is. Heenan too because I laugh at her bronze UB medal score actually winning a medal.

      Looking back besides Kupets they weren’t as bad as I remember but Courtney’s floor routine. Literally worst floor routine of all time.

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        You forget Kerri strug. Nothing is worse than that.

      • dianajc99 Says:

        witch strug Fx there were sooo many bad ones.

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        Well I’d say 3/5 of the worst ever floor ex belonged to her

      • Aerial Says:

        Well GTT you could be my soul sista after all. You perfectly described what I saw too when watching Yim. Id like to add that she was so spastic and there her body into such sharp movements that I feared she’d suffer sudden cardiac arrest. Then I realized I was having heart palpitations myself watching her perform. I also can’t stand the broken wrists with cobwebby hands emphasizing the whole spectacle.
        However I must admit what a lazy cow I feel like knowing she was an elite gymnast, a high level skater, and breezed into Stanford. Some people must have more than 24 hours in a day it’s that simple.

    • G Says:

      I have an issue with that quad too. Most of them just bore me. Heenan Tidd, MIles, they’re just sort of forgettable. I am a Terin Humphrey fan though, she was nice to watch.

      It’s funny, because as much a trainwreck as the 1997-2000 quad was, they were wayyy more entertaining then what followed.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        That’s because they were a train wreck.lol Those are always fun to watch.

        I didn’t like Terin as a gymnast at all especially on floor until I saw her at Worlds in 2003. The floor was so much betetr live than on TV.

      • G Says:

        Thats neat, i wish I could have gone to comps back then. Though i guess i did see Terin live when she and Marta brushed passed me in the parking lot at Classics last year lol

      • Aerial Says:

        Yikes. I literally shuddered recalling those long-forgotten gymnasts. What a bugly quad. And sad to think of the Russian greats and Romanian robot-greats that used to be at the time. Between Tidds eyes and Miles flexed size 17 feet I just can’t go deeper into my memory bank of this time than that.

  4. Exgymgurl Says:

    Tabitha wears creepy al fong gloves when she coaches

  5. Ilanchik20 Says:

    Sigh.

    http://papaliukin.tumblr.com/post/144508278084/anna-rodionova-get-these

  6. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Kapitonova to replace Paseka in the European Championships: http://rewritingrussiangymnastics.blogspot.com.es/2016/05/no-paseka-for-russia-in-berne.html?m=1. Not sure why they are taking Kapitanova. She was the sixth in the Russian Championships and doesn’t have any outstanding event but bars and Russia is well covered there. She had only 14.067 on floor in the Russian Championships, didn’t classify for beam finals in that competition and had a discreet vault. If they don’t want to risk it with Seda or Kharenkova, why don’t they choose Shegoulnova (with a better floor and beam) or Skrypnik, fourth in the AA. What the hell is going on there?

    • dianajc99 Says:

      ? playing it safe to not injure
      those they have left.

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        Not sure…Russsia has always sent powerful gymnasts to the Europeans, especially in the Olympic years. In 2012, they sent the same team they sent afterwards to London. It is obvious that Valentina doesn’t trust Seda and Kharenkova. I am not saying that she doesn’t have her reasons (because she do) but to take someone who is the sixth in your country it is just lame. Nothing about Kapitanova personally, but I think that Russia has better gymnasts to choose. And I don’t think that Valentina is resting the other ones. They are competing constantly un World Cups. Shegulnova and Skypnik were recently at Varna. They had better scores than Kapitanova in the Russian Championships and they had very low scores at Varna, so…

  7. Gymnast41 Says:

    They posted gabby’s first episode of the show online if anyone wants to watch… So far 5 minutes in it’s repetitive like the rest of her interviews http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20996464_21007097,00.html

    • Ss Says:

      They are really beating to death that her goal
      Is just to make the national team…not win. At least they are trying to manage the expectations of 4 year fans.

    • Gymnast41 Says:

      Honestly one of the things that irked me the most was her family actually designing her leos instead of herself lol. So much for the “gabby” GK line being authentic like aly and simone…. She also sounded incredibly scripted in her interviews, but it was nice to see moments that showed she actually speak and acts like a normal person without being on front of the media cameras. But really I was so confused why they made such a big deal of being on the national team instead of the podium when she’s already had an international assignment that they acted like didn’t happen. “If I don’t make this national team my chances for rio are virtually over” and the “you might be surprised since I’m the Olympic champion that I have to make the national team again…and I’m pissed” comments made me lol. But, doesn’t look like I’ll be even thinking to watch the show. Not my cup of tea

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      Yes Demi lovatos BF was a producer up front. And yes paparazzi are so prevalent and just follow gabby everywhere. To the bathroom even. And this is a massive momager manager fail, they should have spent the thousand dollars gone back and reshot some of the audio to call nationals the PG championships now that she is a brand ambassador. They could have recorded five verbal references and at least it would look like they are sponsoring gabby. Ridiculous because that’s Gabbys biggest paycheck and they didn’t even rep it. Secondly, they’ve had to reshoot this so many times to avoid certain people (like Nia) that it’s ridiculous, the training footage was shot after Nia left. And then also oh yeah, the lies like she was on the national team with a fig license and went to jesolo before PG last year. PGS are two nights not one night. All of that diminishes her brand. I’m sorry but it does. I feel bad that her non Olympic track running brother gets stuck filming this. Anyone notice the dog at the hotel? that’s another thing, this alienates her from everyone else because all the girls double up and get ready together in a Hilton branded hotel. I don’t even think they stayed there, they just shot a few scenes to make it look like they were and then left that suite. Because Hilton doesn’t let you shoot in their hotels. Plus they couldn’t risk other gymnasts being in the shots. Okay rant part one over…..

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        All the comments about making the national team were shot after the competition as well. Her sisters aren’t designing anything. Those were all designed by other people just like Bastia and shawns were. Sorry they pick which Leo’s they put their name on but that’s about it. She and her sisters may say I want this color and pattern but they aren’t designing anything. GK just wanted to be in the show. The best part was when they showed Simone Biles, and gabby basically says she’s just as good as any of the national team girls. I can’t wait until they show the footage of her brother who got kicked off the junior college track team …. The two funniest parts were Natalie saying gabby hates the matching colors and yet they do it because she thinks it’s great, and also when she asked gabby if Marta was at podium training. Like really? Natalie is the funniest person on that show. LOve the cheesy ass crown shaped air freshener next to the computer. maybe she can get a sponsorship with glade…. That was the most interesting part of that whole scene that crown shaped air freshener. Trailer park cheese ball. Haven’t seen that in years. But the smart thing is they now will all attend all of her competitions for free because the show will buy all their tickets and not them. I also loved how Natalie says Gabbys career is in lots Angeles. Really? IS Gabby an actress? Does she have a pool cleaning business? Can’t they do meetings by skype? So after Rio and the tour Gabby will be ________ my answer is headlining a show in slots Vegas or Borlando for cirque de soleil. Poor girl has no skills, no college, and a huge gravy train she has to feed. I actually like Nastia and Carly better.

      • dianajc99 Says:

        I think Nastia actuality did design her leos.

  8. ilanchik20 Says:

    Random thoughts:

    I don’t like reality tv but I was intrigued by everyone’s comments. It wasn’t bad. I expected worse, I may keep watching lol

    1) I find it ironic that Natalie was a debt collector before, given she fails to pay her debt to numerous gyms lol

    2) why Natalie gabby’s manager? Seems like a bad idea haha

    3) why does Gabby acting like she is the only one who took a break after London? Poor Aly

    4) Gabby saying how important podium training is yet she never puts much effort into hers? Funny how that works haha

    5) I guess the dad is out of the picture again until she needs him for the “story”

    I’m sure there is more. Sorry for random thoughts

    • Tortuga Says:

      Ilankchik: I’m really surprised you’re the only person the said anything about Natalie mentioning she was a debt collector. I figured that would be the main thing people jumped on in this episode. My thoughts lol:

      – A Thirty minute show equates to 20 some odd minutes of programming which does not leave much time for story development therefore there is not much content per episode.

      – Damn Gabby bought her family a huge ass mansion! I’m not surprised it just pains me to see. Poor girl is giving them everything and I hope she has a good accountant to have enough saved for her future.

      – I’m glad they specifically mentioned how great Simone is and played a clip of her vault. Also on that note I’m not sure if it was made known to production that Gabby couldn’t go out and win with Simone and others in the game right now so they had to focus the story line on making the national team instead. Or as someone else mentioned they may have/probably changed the narrative after not placing top 3 at nationals.

      – I think the scenes in the hotel were from where just her family was staying and Gabby was visiting between workouts. I assume all the competitors have to stay at the Hilton. Also it was nice to see that she was disappointed after podium training and knew she had a lot of work to do. Instead of the persona she gives off that “I’m great and I can’t wait to prove the haters wrong”

      – Once again she mentions her haters but says she doesn’t pay attention to them because she wants to focus on herself. Yet she mentions them in 90% of her interviews, haha.

      So overall she wasn’t as cringe worthy as I was expecting, but the show is kinda boring thus far.

  9. dianajc99 Says:

    anybody know when Ioana Crisan turns senior?

  10. Gymnast41 Says:

    Only thing I heard from camp was that mykayla skinner got 3rd AA and simone was 1st of course

  11. G Says:

    Totally random but Shawn appeared on another YouTube channel and she was shown face timing with the girls at training camp. It was really cute, she was talking to Rachel, Simone, Aly and Norah I think. It’s nice to see that she’s actually close to them still.

    • Guest Says:

      She (and Andrew) was getting along with Youtuber family Bratayley (They have filmed some YouTube videos together before) and attended birthday party of Jojo Siwa from Dance Moms in LA. That’s why they wore some weird neon outfit. I think Shawn would release the video this week too.

      • G Says:

        Yeah! I didn’t feel like explaining all that lol so thanks for taking the time to do so. I just started watching Bratayley a few months ago, I love reality tv so i definitely enjoy a daily installment haha. Shawn and Andrew are really cute with their kids and that was cool that she introduced them to the girls at camp like that.

      • Guest Says:

        Aly confirmed it. lol

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        My nieces are obsessed with those little girls and subscribed to them on my YouTube channel. I am constantly getting updates I don’t want . The other day one of them asked me if I knew who Shawn Johnson was because brathayley’s parents went to her Wedding and it was on the show.

      • Guest Says:

        Does anyone know how is Shawn’s college study going? I remember she has enrolled into Vandy years ago. Maybe she takes 1 or more years off for marriage?

      • Guest Says:

        Here is a capture.

      • Guest Says:

        This is the Youtube clips about facetime between Aly and Shawn. Bratayley became more well-known in Youtube I think it is because their boy Caleb passed away last year IMO.

  12. Ilanchik20 Says:

    Anyone listened to the latest Betty Okino interview with Gymcastic?

    It felt like she almost dissed Maroney’s experience. It gave me a bad vibe when she said it’s athlete’s responsibility to stand up for themselves if they are being mistreated. I mean yes but no, all at the same time.

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      I only think after the fact Maroney really thought she was being mistreated, but even then she has a pretty good head on her shoulders I must say. It didn’t seem to affect her as badly as it does most other people – like she didn’t take it too personally. In fact it sounds like what made her spin out of control was the fact her body wasn’t cooperating with what she wanted to do. The injuries and disappointment.
      Maroney had mad talent, so I am actually bummed we won’t see her vault again. She could have done that TTY too I’m sure if her body cooperated. I really believe that year up to London broke her for good. She kept going and going and Marta ruined her from being able to continue gymnastics. I mean she was competing with a broken foot basically, and went on tour with a broken leg (pretty much).
      And Jordyn too – Jordyn competed on a broken leg.

      Betty Okino should say something about THAT instead of gymnasts being mistreated by their coaches. What about the freakin team coordinator insisting on all these death camps leading up to the Olympics? It’s too bad the US has mad depth and talent because otherwise Marta wouldn’t be able to get away with it. She wouldn’t be winning these medals.

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        I really felt uncomfortable with that part of Betty’s interview. In another part, she talked about how one day in training before a major competition, people kept missing so Bela had everyone do extra rotations. She had a good day so Bela had her do some bars dismount on hard surface, one she wasn’t going to compete anytime soon. She said she felt her body was done that day but she kept pushing and ended up hurting her hamstring. She used that as an example to show that athletes should stand up for themselves and their bodies.

        Ahm, maybe but a coach should also know that doing 10 routines before a major competition isn’t a good idea.

        It was strange–on the one hand, she said that there is a better way and that lead-up to Olympics is brutal but on the other hand, athletes should stand up for themselves.

      • Ss Says:

        The thing that bothers me about this is that these are children for the majority of their careers. They have been taught to blindly obey their coaches at all times, and to trust that they have their best interest at heart. Perhaps now McKayla could stand up for herself, but she was 16 at the Olympics and doing anything she could to make her dreams come true.
        I do, however, place significant blame on the parents. At the end of the day a parent is responsible for making sure their child is okay. It IS their responsibility to stand up for the best interest of their child.
        Listening to TSL’s interview with Zmeskel was eye opening. She was adamant that she was the driving force behind her career and that her parents repeatedly said she could quit anytime she wanted. Perhaps this is why she appears to have gotten away unscathed despite her Olympic experience.

    • Melanie Says:

      I haven’t listened to the Gymcastic interview, but I read a Triple Twist interview of her and she came off as an annoying bitch. She came across as very entitled and seemed like she thinks she’s better than everyone else.

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        I’ve liked her in the past but she just rubbed me the wrong way in a few places during the interview.

        She did say she chose to go to Karolyi so if someone didn’t like it, they were free to leave. She said that one was forced to come there or stay so it was her wanting to be there. She said it wasn’t like a Nadia situation in Romania where she was basically recruited by Bela.

        She did mention that it’s parent’s job to defend their kids but I’m not sure how parents would know what Bela was doing unless said child told them about this. She used Moceanu as an example and said her parents should have protected Dom but didn’t.

        She also talked about Kristie Phillips and that she def doesn’t think Bela was that bad or that he caused to be depressed enough to consider suicide. She said she knows that because she is friends with Kristie now and gnat it was Kristie who organized the reunion at the ranch 2 years ago.

        Like I agree with some of her comments but some were just so off.

      • Mim Says:

        Ilana, I actually came here to see how others felt about the Betty Okino interview. A few things she said (and how she said it) really rubbed me up the wrong way, particularly talking about Kristie and McKayla.

        Re: McKayla interview, Betty upfront said she’d give her ‘diplomatic’ answer about her views, but she was quite smug and sarcastic, she would have been better off just giving her honest answer because it was evident to anyone listening how she felt about it all. I raised my eyebrows bring time when she so overtly said the McKayla interview was passe.. to the very person who did the McKayla interview. Jeez, even if its true, rude much.

        Clearly, Betty is one of those adults who is in the camp of “back in the old days, we had it tough and we had to suck it up, if you can’t hack it that’s too bad, you’re not tough enough” mentality, which is helpful to no-one. I was surprised that she saw the situation as so black and white – if you don’t like it, you’re free to leave. She acknowledged that sometimes a child or a teenager won’t be able to vocalise their feelings, but then said it was up to the parents to advocate for their kid.

        Has Betty actually MET a teenager? I was a ‘good’ teenager but hell, I had so many secrets from my parents and certainly didn’t go to them with every problem I had. I think Betty certainly underestimates the dynamic most teens have with their parents and other adults in their lives, or the fact that many kids might not have an adult properly advocating for them.

        Also, my understanding is that parents are encouraged have a healthy distance from their kids when it comes to gym-related things.. don’t watch every (or any) practice, don’t have an over-inflated sense of what your kid can do, let the coach do the coaching etc. I’d say it must be a delicate balance of being involved but not too involved, especially because parents trust in the coaches as much as the kids do, but I digress.

        I was left thinking that while her views are perfectly valid in the sense she has her own experiences to draw from, Betty’s analysis of the situation was overly simplistic and indicated to me she’s not a particularly critical or sophisticated thinker.

        She had a couple of small digs at Kerri Strugg too, which i found amusing.

        Her redeeming thing for me was that her family seems badass. And she danced with the original Destiny’s Child, which is awesome.

  13. dianajc99 Says:

    Gabby warning

    there a pic of gabby in the new EW magazine about her reality show.

  14. dianajc99 Says:

    Seda’s going to euro’s

    • Ilanchik20 Says:

      I saw that earlier. At least some sanity in Valentina. Now, if only she would take Kapitonova over Spiridinova.

    • Rocío Martínez López Says:

      Good. Who is she replacing? Because the five spots were announced (Musty, Afan, Melnikova, Dasha and Kapitonova instead of Paseka). Is she replacing Kapitonova or Dasha or someone else?

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        Seda instead of Kapitonova. I wish Kapitonova was going too. Her bars are almost comparable to Dasha’s but she can also contribute elsewhere.

    • Rocío Martínez López Says:

      Thanks for the info, Ilanchik. Almost all top six Russians are very good on bars, so I don’t think they are going to take Dasha to the Olympics. Seda is a better options, because without Paseka they need another good vault and definitely a good extra floor. I think Kapitonova has a great potential, but I don’t think she has any chances for this Olympics. She was six in the AA in the Russian Championships and 4th in UB (sans Komova) and fifth in the floor final, so I think that Russia has better candidates this year. But definitely she is one to watch in an immediate future. I don’t think Musty, Afan and Komova will be around much longer, so the new seniors have to be ready to take their post.

    • Mim Says:

      Yay, Seda!

  15. dianajc99 Says:

    Williams is suing for 11.3 million!!

    Thema sues for $11.3 million! TTGF officials served pre-action protocol letters

    • dianajc99 Says:

      1.7 mil us $

    • Mim Says:

      Dammmmmmn. I don’t know how I feel about this. Like, it’s a crap situation all around, but maybe Theme should just accept it, move on and channel her emotions in a more healthy outlet?

      • Cupquaked Says:

        Generally I think it’s completely ridiculous to sue anyone for monetary reasons if money wasn’t involved in the disagreement. Buuuuuuuut….they basically told her she would go to the Olympics if she placed well at the test event and then used underhanded and practicially illegal ways of getting her switched out with another (lesser) gymnast for no other reason than a bad practice. And then didn’t even properly inform her of that decision until it was irreversible. TTGF needs to endure the consequences of their corrupt actions. Is 1.7 million a bit too much? Probably. But it sends a clear message that what they did is absolutely not okay. And if this is what it takes to get that entire committee thrown out and replaced, so be it.

      • dianajc99 Says:

        I’m amazed that a state school cost that much.
        They should pay for he college of nothing else.

  16. katecoursey Says:

    Saw on Twitter that Larisa isn’t out for Rio yet…hope this is true!

  17. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Updates from Ponor: https://www.instagram.com/p/BFokQ1uCu9v/

  18. Guest Says:

    The previous Kellogg’s Tour seems not to have good reputations at all.
    http://www.ticketmaster.com/Kelloggs-Tour-Of-Gymnastics-Champions-tickets/artist/1708372?tm_link=edp_Artist_Rating

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Who wants to watch Nastia dance around a beam ? Back in the 90’s they did real routines sure not Olympic stuff buy full in and multiple layouts on beam now it’s a joke. Hey but if you buy Nastia a Tiffany necklace you get an autograph

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        It’s the vulgar club atmosphere that gets me. I went in 1997 and zmeskal and Lilliya were on that your and seeing both of them was more amazing than the mag 7 who were also all there. I remember Steve Nuno stretching Shannon before, and lots of things with the guys shirtless but nothing gross. Seeing Lilya dance on floor and her tumbling and her artistry was like woah!!!! And all the girls did such hard moves and good tumbling passes, maybe down one notch but not flyaways and single layouts. I can’t believe Nastia is even on tour still.

  19. Exgymgurl Says:

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/05/30/simone-biles-is-the-best-gymnast-in-the-world Great article, I wonder if it’s Maggie Nichols that is swimming and saunas get to keep weight off. And the comment about 2009 that was to Sloan LMFAO

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Biles is the most decorated gymnast of all time? Must have missed those 16 medals. It’s a good thing Simone is such a good kid because articles like this are just so every 4 year like. Oh and any article that uses the word the gymternet was written by a fucking idiot.lol

      • Melanie Says:

        Article actually says that Simone needs to win three medals at the Olympics in order to become the most decorated US gymnast of all time. It’s actually a pretty good article in keeping on track with details.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        It quotes the gymternet Melanie. THE GYMTERNET as in the stupid name gym fans call themselves. I am sorry but can’t call that legit lol

      • Melanie Says:

        Haha, I can’t argue with that.

    • Gymnast41 Says:

      Definitely enjoyed this article but so many things that are shocking! Like the “spoiled brat” comment from Marta, the teammate having pressure to stay thin, her personal thoughts of her relationship with alec yoder, and the weird fanfics? I’m so glad simone speaks her mind, but this article left me with so many questions lol

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I only skimmed the article but will write a blog on the brat part in a few because u know it needs to be addressed

      • dianajc99 Says:

        you should read the whole thing. its an actual good article.

      • dianajc99 Says:

        So the nation team has to be “invited” to the camp each month?

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        The Alec Yoder thing kind of blows my mind, I knew they were friends and he did get his ears pierced. Good deduction. And good on Simone for calling out Marta on overtraining everyone last year at worlds. I love how Aly says the olympics is just like worlds but with Olympic Rings everywhere you learn to ignore!!!! I thought for a second Lauren wrote it when I read the word by by gymternet

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        there’s a video floating around where Marta does the whole face in my hands thing with Simone and tells her it’s very nice and she is very spoiled. This was part of the official grand opening of her gym.

    • Melanie Says:

      Was just going to post this. My favorite part was the comment Simone made about Gabby…

      • Gymbot Says:

        The whole article is honest, I’m glad it portrayed the gymnasts, coaches and gymternet contributors real opinions

    • Mim Says:

      It was a fun read! But Simone’s coach has commented that there are several inaccuracies in the article. At any rate, it did seem like the journo made an effort to understand the sport a little bit more than the usual superficial articles in the Olympic year.

  20. Exgymgurl Says:

    Also Shannon Miller was forced to stand next to Jadkie Fie. Or should we call he gold medal hijackie Fie. And then Shannon posted it on her Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/ShannonMillerOfficial/photos/a.115418478468308.19639.112471272096362/1210894538920691/?type=3&theater

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Shannon really is one of those nice clueless people who has no clue what is going on around her. I laugh more at Jackie standing nextto Shannon after what she did like it never happened. Notice Dawes is too good to show up again and Moceanu looks like a cross dresser in that out fit. No sense of style at all

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        My take on that is that Moceanu is getting a divorce or separated he cheated and she’s going through that look at me I’m ready for the club phase. Also Amy Chow should have veto power on Moceanus outfits. Permanently. Seriously you don’t need to look like a mob wife hooker Dominique, some man will find you and pay for everything since your jewelry line is obviously a flop and you aren’t even wearing it.

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        Or Moceanu is joining the spice girls on tour as a go go dancer… and leaving immediately with no time to change clothes.

      • Mim Says:

        More power to Shannon for being that way, I reckon. It’s a nicer way to go through life!

  21. Guest Says:

    I just noticed DWTS official instagram @dancingabc has posted a pic of Nastia in DWTS finale. She wore a low-cut brownish-pink dress but there were tons of negative comments against her look and it is all about how the dress is unflattering, or she needs to get a boob-job, etc. Then DWTS deleted the picture just hours later. It is so sad that I didn’t capture it but believe me it is truth. lol

    • Ilanchik20 Says:

      I actually thought that dress was better than most of her recent outfits. How ironic lol.

      • Guest Says:

        It is because the pic from DWTS official showed part of her “boob” but everyone never think she has the size to fit the front of the dress so the pic looked a bit weird and I understand why there were a lot of negative comments.

        And I agree the low-cut front is not fitting her like this pic below.

      • dianajc99 Says:

        soo creepy when you can see the rib cage like that

      • Guest Says:

        She is so desperate to make herself look thin and skinny these years after she retired from gymnastics. Anyway I think Shawn looks more healthy at all.

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        Her fiancé is super skinny, that’s why she’s taken up smoking cigarettes like her mom to stay thin for him. I think her fiancé is worse on her about her weight then her dad was.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Might be a NYC thing too – very trendy to be stick thin like that. Just ask Taylor Swift.

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        Nastia is in LA. She was there for DWTS finale yesterday. Shawn lives around LA now. I’m not sure why they are so friendly all of the sudden. I’m sure there is a reason lol.

      • Guest Says:

        The turning may be she was eliminated from DWTS semi-final last year. Before that Nastia usually likes throwing shade on her (gold ribbon, not artistic, body shade). After she was eliminated, she may realize that throwing shade on Shawn is nowhere helpful for her to be more likeable or popular, so she changed her strategy that she tried to act “so nice” to Shawn and get invited to Shawn’ wedding, then make people not so negative anymore on her. lol

      • Aerial Says:

        She does look terrible in that dress. It’s brutal on her gaunt figure and the colour doesn’t work with her spray tan. I actually hate that bedroom slip look that makes boobs look terrible and tiny. Unsupported boobs of any shape and size are a no-no. But I digress. She’s dropped a crazy amount of weight after the crazy amount of weight she dropped AFTER her comeback fail.

        And I’m VERY dubious of these sudden friendships and fawnings on the part of Shawn and her former bullies. Everyone grows up and Shawn does seem to be the “better/bigger” person type, but Nastia and Alicia scream inauthentic and contrived to me.

    • Tortuga Says:

      Her head looks bigger than the rest of her body, and her chest looks sunken in. These are usually things people point out when you have an eating disorder. She must be thinner than she was in her comeback in 2012, especially without the muscle definition. Maybe it’s just this dress, she always looks really thin but not quite that scary. Or she’s going crazy overboard to lose weight for her wedding.

    • Gymbee Says:

      Anyone noticed how suddenly Nastia and Shawn are BFF’s? Are they doing business together or something, I figure it must be a play because of the Olympics, but not even in London they bothered with each other. So many photos together, Shawn saying that her and her fiance should be there with them, and Nastia just posting a photo of the two of them saying “reunited and it feels so good”.

      • Guest Says:

        The turning point may be she was eliminated from DWTS semi-final last year. Before that Nastia usually likes throwing shade on her (gold ribbon, not artistic, body shape). After she was eliminated, she may realize that throwing shade on Shawn is nowhere helpful for her to be more likeable or popular, so she changed her strategy that she tried to act “so nice” to Shawn and get invited to Shawn’s wedding, then make people less negative viewing on her. lol

  22. Exgymgurl Says:

    And on May 12 2015 a little over a year ago, Nastia and Derek were eliminated. She didn’t make the finale. She didn’t win. happiness

  23. Guest Says:

    A long interview of Shawn from NBC Olympics. She talked about Rio, marriage, study, and her new book.

    http://www.nbcolympics.com/news/shawn-johnson-picking-olympic-team-and-why-rio-will-be-full-party

    • Guest Says:

      She confirmed Asac was here in her wedding. Just wonder why no hanging pictures posted at all. 🤔

  24. dianajc99 Says:

    Ha Gabby’s going to chat live on TMZ of all places.

  25. Ilanchik20 Says:

    A short interview with Mary Lee Tracy. Her predictions on the Rio team. She is pretty frank here.

    Do you think she is hinting that Laurie is injured?

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=890684044386898&id=281547475300561&_rdr

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      Without watching this, I wouldn’t be surprised if something is going on since she has been being “saved” a lot recently.

    • Tortuga Says:

      I’m pretty sure Laurie is injured since she didn’t compete finals at Pac Rims and wasn’t at camp. It’s just low key. So Marta broke two gymnasts competing for the same spot in one week lol.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Are the two gymnasts Maggie and Laurie?

        The sucky thing is Team USA could really use Maggie’s amanar and bars, and she had a solid beam and floor.

        Yet still Marta can break 3 or 4 more gymnasts and still have a winning team.

        If she breaks Simone though, there goes her swan song.

      • Tortuga Says:

        Yeah I’m pretty positive Laurie and Maggie are both injured. Laurie’s may not be too serious since no one has even said what it is. And Maggie said on her ask fm that she will be able to compete the Amanar and training is great etc. Nationals will probably be when we see the whole picture come together.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Maggie needs the amanar to make that team. I agree that Simone, Aly, and Gabby are pretty much locks even though Aly was looking shaky for a while. Hopefully Maggie has upped her bars or something while her knee was healing. What a crap injury to have happen.

        I can see Laurie being the 5th since she has a solid beam, I guess her floor is good (although I’m back and forth on this) and I really don’t know much about her bars but I’m assuming they are usable, more so than Aly’s…but if Maggie is there she can be used on 3 up and spare Simone for bars.

        I’m going back to my original thoughts that the US really doesn’t need a bar specialist. They would be fully covered with Simone, Aly, Gabby, Laurie, and Maggie.

        If Maggie can’t do the amanar I can see Skinner being brought out instead. If you think about it, Marta won’t use Maggie in quals on 2 apparatuses because Gabby will have to be put on beam and floor (4 up, 3 count right?)…so really if Maggie’s out you need a solid vaulter with bars. Too bad that doesn’t exist right now…but I doubt that Marta will want to use 2 DTY vaults in finals. So she’ll take Skinner (or someone who has an amanar that I don’t know about) and make Simone do bars in team finals if Maggie can’t go.

        Oh wait, Aly has an amanar. But it doesn’t score much higher than Gabby’s DTY, right?

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        All hasn’t hit her Amanar once that i can rbwr since her comeback. She’s had huge issues on the landings so while Gabby’s piked DTY ‘s have been scoring close to or better than Aly’s Amanar Aly , Aly has hit hwr potantual yet. She and Maggie have similar form issues so Alts could improve her scores by at least 5 tenths if she hits them.like she is capable and no I am not forgetting about her form

      • Mim Says:

        I want Ebee to come out of retirement!

    • dianajc99 Says:

      I don’t know. it seems in bad taste for me for her to be talking to aunt joyce? she ‘s thrown alot of shade on her and her athletes in the past.

    • Gymnast41 Says:

      This seems to be the #1 team circulating around. Shawn, gymter.net Lauren/gymnastic, several bloggers, MLT, and soon to be NBC commentators have this list before classics. However, she basically revealed that anything could happen in these next few months and things could change. I cannot believe (but can) that Laurie and Maggie probably got injured at the same time in death camp, and their status at the moment is kind of up in the air, while being 100% legit contenders. I guess the moment of truth will come at classics when we see everyone that’s been injured the past year or so compete, and we should start to see a more obvious team then…I know Maggie is just getting back in the gym for only a month, and classics are right around the corner. I’m sure her amanar will not be debuted anytime soon, and I’m not even sure if she’ll have full difficulty by then either. If she does though then, I see her chances getting much better. Laurie I’m not too too worried about based on how she competed at pac rims, but missing the last camp does worry me. She was right about Ashton vs Madison K though. It will probably come down to how well Madison gained back her skills on the other events after her injury and whether Ashton upgraded beam. I absolutely love Ashton’s bars though and wish she could concoct some kind of 6.0+ beam by classics lol.

      • Aerial Says:

        I quite enjoy Madison’s bars (when surveying the available US bar routines) and like the fresh breath of pretty. Lick lead is so gangly and her swirly knee bandages throw me off. If a bar specialist is gonna make it, i really hope it’s kocian. She is useable on other events should something cray go down and she’s earned the spot.

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        I think there will be a bars specialist. Gabby’s bars are no longer enough to be the third one up. Plus amanar is worth less now than it was in 2012.

        Laurie does have usable bars but still is think Marta would want someone who is a bars specialist since vault is not as dominant for u.s anymore.

        I much prefer Locklear’s bars to Kocian but I think Kocian may make cause she is an AA’er. This pains me to say it but Kocian said s the 2012 Kyla except Kyla had much prettier gymnastics and wasn’t from the overscored land of WOGA.

        I say Maggie only makes it if she has an amanar. On mask.fm, she said she plans to compete it this summer but it just don’t see how. Is she even allowed to compete it since she didn’t verify it at camp?

        I wonder what Laurie’s injury is? It’s got to be something that rest can cure. It’s the only logical explanation that she was allowed to skip the last camp of the year.

        So if Laurie and Maggie don’t make it, I’d say Key may actually have a shot. If not Key, then Skinner to boost the vault rotation or Regan to boost beam. I think Regan is Marta’s pet sort of so she has a chance.

        But better yet, take Norah–she will have very usable bars and beam come summer lol.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Earned is subjective but even being the Woga hater that I am I too think Kocian is much better choice. Ashton Kutcher bars are not that much better then Maddie to merit a spot on this team over Kocian who has a serviceable DTY and a much better beam than Ashton. And she has a floor routine.

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        One thing I forgot: Locklear gave up her Florida scholarship and has said she wants to keep doing elite which means she would be willing to go pro if need be. I highly highly doubt Kocian would go pro since she seems to really want to go to UCLA. I wonder if they’ll make a difference? I’m sure Marta could care less but Steve would care. I remember the whole debacle with Kyla not wanting to go pro.

        I doubt Maggie or Laurie would be willing to go pro either but Skinner might.

        I’m sure Steve would want at least 4/5 to be pro.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        With Simone , Aly and Gabby Steve is set. They need names to carry on through the next 4 years. Which is why I think Maggie is out and Ragan has a shot. I also d9nt think Gabby is a lock. If Aly, Bailie,Maggie, Laurie and Ragan all beat her at Nationals and Trials we have a whole new ball game. Gabby has been getting gift scores since she came back so if she has mistakes she c o uld be left out. This game is far from over.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I would love to see Gabby left behind, only because it doesn’t seem like she’s working that hard for the Olympics like the other gals and I feel like others are getting royally screwed just so she can promote her “story” of defending her AA Olympic title.

        Bailey is better on all apparatuses than Gabby (except maybe vault) and her bars are one of the best in the US, no? Yet she’s not even on the radar. I feel like this is because of Gabby.

        Gabby will continue to get gift scores in the US so for her to be left behind, she’ll need to fall and the others will need to hit. Like, it needs to be obvious. Like Nastia face-planting it obvious.

        Maggie won’t be on the team without that vault. I just hope she doesn’t throw it if she’s not ready. I don’t want to see another Bross knee disaster.

        Someone (Ilanchik?) made the point that vaults are not as important as they used to be – true. But Marta seems to love to stack that one. We don’t have a good enough bars set to win the gold medal (Kocian comes close, but her beam and floor aren’t all that strong and Marta probably wouldn’t want to use them if she doesn’t have to). Locklear isn’t good enough to take for bars alone.

        2012 Kyla is better than 2016 Kocian. Only because Kyla had very usable top-3 bars and beam, a very usable DTY, and somewhat usable floor. Kocian has only usable bars. The other apparatuses are somewhat usable. But yeah if anything she’ll be the bar/beam specialist and won’t go up for beam in finals.

        If Norah comes and kills it on bars and beam, I don’t see why she can’t take Kocian’s spot. Norah has a DTY too, no?

      • Aerial Says:

        Yikes. Lick lead would be locklear!

      • Gymnast41 Says:

        Sigh. I loved bailie last year and still do…I hope she kills it this summer even if she doesn’t make the Olympic team to finally have some dignity. Such a talented kid that I hope will shine in the next few years too. I agree about Madison K having a bigger advantage over Ashton, but prefer Ashton’s bars for the sole reason of pointed feet, otherwise, I like Madison’s routine better. And back to what GTT said, Maggie, aly, bailie, Laurie, and ragan have the potential to beat gabby (heck even steingruber, black etc. do), but it kills me to say that it probably won’t happen. The reality is, and we all know it, is that she will get the scores she gets because of who she is, not what she brings to the table. Anyone can see that they are better, more hard-working gymnasts, but come classics we will see those unfair gifts coming along. This summer would be soooo much fun watching if the results differed every competition and the scores were fair. With as close and deep the talent the US have, there should be no obvious team until trials

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        Bailie was never my favorite but seeing how she basically got screwed because of Gabby last year, makes me like much more. Bailie’s gymnastics may not be flashy but I think she is on par with the rest of AA’ers so I do hope she is still considered.

        I think because vault doesn’t give u.s much advantage as it did in 2012, Marta will want to make up that .6 loss by a higher scoring bar rotation. So I think Kocian will be an option here, if she is healthy. I really prefer Locklear here. Norah should also be considered and as much as I love her, I just don’t see Marta taking a first year senior and have Olympics be their first senior international meet. She is sort of like Finnie 2012 except Norah has events that Marta could use. But I’m all for Norah!

        As far as Gabby goes, I will keep hoping she gets the alternate position. If let’s say she falls off beam one of the days, goes OOB on floor, it’s possible. She would prob need to be shaky on bars too. We all know that amanar is not happening at trials. Those things are possible but unprobable.

        Aly will be on the team. I think she will keep an amanar unless she misses it at Classics and both days of Nationals which even with Aly’s recent history seems unlikely. She hit it at classics and nationals last year so will this year too. If Mihai knows anything is that of how to time her.

      • Mim Says:

        There was some recent camp photo that Mykayla posted on ig floating about tumblr somewhere saying it was her last national team camp (as opposed to the last one before the Olympics), which suggested to me she’s off to Utah in the fall. I’d be super surprised if she gave up NCAA to go pro but never say never.

        Ashton doesn’t compete AA because of an ongoing injury, is that right?

  26. Ilanchik20 Says:

    Here is another one of them. This one is def for their abc “image.”

    • Guest Says:

      Shawn’s husband is here also.

    • Guest Says:

      I think it is a bit weird that Nastia’s fiancé is absent in the picture.

      • Ss Says:

        Nastia’s fiance wasn’t there. She kept tagging him and saying she wished he was there. Does he have a real job, though? I know Shawn’s doesn’t. I guess he must if he wasn’t willing to drop everything to go to dwts.

      • Guest Says:

        If you checked Shawn’s snapchat you can see Andrew was face-timing with Matt (Nastia’s fiance). lol

        Andrew is signed with Oakland Raiders now. I don’t know if he can get the roster one day but I bet he would still get paid in training camp.

        God knows why Shawn and Nastia get friendly together currently because Nastia was used to throwing shape or making jokes on Shawn in social media. Maybe time is gone then it changed her mind somewhat or it is all for marketing that making herself’s image less negative.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        They are friendly now because the Olympics is coming up and both know that real soon the 2008 team will not matter anymore and be a forgotten memory. You’ll have two Olympic teams in a row (2012 and likely 2016) that will be gold medal winning teams. So future Olympics will feature those gals, not the Beijing “losers” (I’m sorry but we all know the media treats a silver medal like a loser position; it really is all about gold).

        So they are both doing what is currently best for their careers and longevity – pretending to like each other.

      • Guest Says:

        I think the public may recognize the individual medalists rather than the whole gold medal team members. MLR didn’t win team gold but still relevant when it comes to Olympics every 4 years. Though 96 team is mentioned, people may mostly know “the team” but it is hard for them to tell who the members are (may be Kerri Stug lol) . In many years later, I think most the public may only recognize Simone (the greatest of all time) and Gabby (first African American won AA) if 12/16 team is mentioned. (I like Aly but the truth is usually sad 😦 )

        And social media should be one of the influential factor not like 20 years ago we can only receive information through TV or newspaper. Shawn started her “Youtuber career” and keeps staying active with her supporters so the situation may not be comparable with the athletes in the past years.

  27. Ilanchik20 Says:

    The classics roster is out. No Maggie.

    Laurie is listed. I guess we’ll see if she does AA or not.

    • Tortuga Says:

      I really wanted to see Maggie compete again, but i’d rather her wait till nationals to show her best. No Bailey either, anyone know what’s going on there? I’m worried she might be done with trying to make Rio.

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        People on Twitter are saying that Bailie was on the list when it was first posted and now she is no longer on the list. I find this very suspicious.

      • Tortuga Says:

        Seems like it will be impossible for to make the team if she doesn’t compete till Nationals.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        If this decision came down to Kim, and then ultimately Regan is selected for Rio, I will be very, very suspicious.

        Is Key injured, or is Kim/Marta trying to sabotage her?

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Already suspicious. Marta knows Bailie will score well internationally and they want Gabby in that AA

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        I told you guys bailie was off to be a baby gator. You just didn’t believe me. Even skinner said it was her last camp ever, she’s off to be a ute regardless if she makes the team

    • dianajc99 Says:

      no Key either.

      • H Says:

        Anyone know if Marissa Oakley is still elite? She was a new senior 2015. She was then coming back from injury, but unfortunally got injured again during podium training at Secret classic 2015.

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        So on Twitter, Kim just said that Bailie will be at Classics. This sounds like Kim’s usual shannigans. We’ll see, I guess, haha.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        If Kim says she will be there she will be there. Let’s be real if she doesnt show up for Classics she migut as well quit

      • harts Says:

        H, Marissa was at the latest camp. She did not make the optionals score necessary to compete at the Secret Classic at the National Qualifier so I guess she tried again at camp. Evidently she didn’t make it there either 😦

  28. Ilanchik20 Says:

    Ugh. I didn’t notice till now. Bailie is not on the classics roster either.

  29. Exgymgurl Says:

    Norah isn’t on the list either…

    • Ilanchik20 Says:

      I swear she was when I first looked. Ugh.

      If Norah doesn’t show up, I swear it’s because Marta is keeping her at home to ensure Gabby places high enough on bars and beam.

      • H Says:

        she was, what is happening … do the usa.org just get it wrong, are they suddenly injured or what?

      • gymbot Says:

        I like Norah on beam, and her endo full to jaeger from training was nice – but I don’t think we saw a full routine for sometime. Hard to know if she could outclass Douglas, Hernandez or even Smith on bars or the total bars/beam score.

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      No apparently Norah has announced she’s pulled out. I think a lot of people got told at camp the dream was over. And then there’s Brenna.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        And then there is Brenna what? Delusions of making this team?

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        Since when did Marta become reasonable and actually tells gymnasts what their chances are? I find this very suspicious.

        That either means someone is trying to ensure Gabby goes or Marta already has her team, whatever it is. Probably both.

        I hope Norah sticks around and we see her beam at world’s at least.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        This would make sense, certain people being told the dream was over.

        This just proves Gabby is still a lock.

        The team has been chosen with the exception of maybe one specialist spot.

        Simone, Aly, Gabby, Laurie…I’m guessing those are the four that Marta wants right now.

      • Gymnast41 Says:

        Why why why Norah 😦 she was at camp and everything…I swear I saw her name on the list too, what even. Bailie and Norah could’ve been in addition to Laurie, Maggie, aly, and ragan, all who really could’ve beaten gabby this year. So is Norah out for the season or just classics?

      • dianajc99 Says:

        i saw Norah’s name too.

  30. dianajc99 Says:

    shes still on the FLO list

    • Tortuga Says:

      And flo actually posted a clip of their Beyond the Routine at Chow’s, saying they were excited to see his senior elites back in competition for Classics. So shit must have went down.

  31. Tortuga Says:

    So out of the “non-locks” that could beat Gabby we had Laurie, Maggie, Bailie, Norah and Reagan (am I missing anyone?). Bailie and Norah have no shot if they skip classics. Laurie and Maggie are question marks after injury. Regan is the only one still completely healthy right now (that we know of). Laurie’s injury must not be that serious if she’s competing at Classics though.

    • Tortuga Says:

      Sorry I should correct myself, I don’t know if Norah could beat Gabby in all around, but I’m sure she could on bars and beam.

  32. Ilanchik20 Says:

    A pretty interesting article with Asac. And she is having a girl 🙂

    I also didn’t know she was the athlete Rep for USAG

    https://www.romper.com/p/how-alicia-sacramone-is-making-gymnastics-more-body-positive-11328?utm_content=buffer2cff8&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

  33. Gymnast41 Says:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7E1tKuoqMrw Came across this interview. Kinda long but she gives some interesting perspective on Kyla/mckayla and Simone (liking at that one)

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