Made in America. Air’s tonight at 8 PM


I can’t bring myself to watch it. Of course we only get to celebrate Marta and what she brought to the table and we forget the talent was already there before she arrived. We forget what the gymnasts not named Mary Lou Retton did to get to this point  because she was trained by Bela. And we will forget that one quads lazy self entitled set of gymnasts and coaches thought they could carry the legacy of the Mag 7 just because they existed.


So after you guys watch tell me what you think. Beware I am sure this will be Nastia and Gabby filled. No thanks if I want to watch bad TV I’ll turn on the Red Sox and watch them lose games out of stupidity.

63 Responses to “Made in America. Air’s tonight at 8 PM”

  1. sanitynmotion Says:

    Yeah I was thinking the same thing when I saw the ad for this on Facebook…this is a tribute to Marta even though Marta had nothing to do with it. She just happened to be in the right place at the right time. The talent was already there and already being nurtured by their own coaches.

    If anything Marta’s policies have resulted in many broken gymnasts competing at the Olympics, not in their best/peak level, which cost them dearly.

    2000 was a joke. They only got a medal because another country cheated.

    2004 could have been better (Kupets was broken, Vice a world bars/beam medalist left at home and a shaken McCool not even used; too much resources wasted on one apparatus – vault)

    2008 you had TWO of the six gymnasts injured to the point where they could only compete on bars, which shook up ASac (she could have qualified to floor finals but freaked)…and you had a code that basically made it so that Nastia would win no matter what…and Shawn Johnson, you were lucky to have won that beam medal because the Chinese were basically on fire that year

    2012 you again had TWO of the five gymnasts injured with near breaks in their legs; Maroney was lucky to have landed her one vault (at apparatus finals) and Jordyn was totally not at peak level – she looked tired and lethargic, plus she had a broken freakin leg…

    I can only imagine what goes down this time around. If Simone breaks that’s all on Marta.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      All good points.

    • Guest Says:

      Jordyn’s absence of AA final is a big tragedy.

    • Gymbot Says:

      The 2012 injuries aren’t mentioned, presumably because they all happened at camp? Where.did mckayla break her toe?

      All of the other injuries are mentioned, all of which may have happened in podium training or prelims

  2. Guest Says:

    I just wonder how the public media would name Shawn (Johnson, East or Johnson-East) during Rio, and don’t know would she do those change in her driving license and passport id .

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      She should stay with Shawn Johnson…go with Shawn East when she has kids on a personal level. I think she re-named her social media “Shawn Johnson East” or something like that but who knows. She’ll probably go by Shawn Johnson and then the media will be asking her all about her wedding/marriage…bleck.

      I unfollowed her on social media a couple years ago, and I never watched one YouTube or whatever she was doing when it came down to her “getting ready for the wedding” thing.

    • Guest Says:

      There are some typical examples. Hillary Clinton and Victoria Beckham used married name in public (of course they both have famous spouses). Kim Kardashian just added “West” in her last name. Ivanka Trump keeps staying her maiden name in public.

      Shawn now has all three status in her social media website, so I think she is still considering how she defines herself.

  3. Gymbot Says:

    It’s not Marta propaganda. The ranch is mentioned at the beginning but the rest is the team talking about the team’s successes over the years and what it means to be a part of the team’s legacy. It’s all fluff. Almost every gymnast on a winning team or Olympic team was interviewed. Also any gymnast who achieved a medal is briefly mentioned or shown. They turned Alicia’s mistakes at the 2008 games into how the team really came together to finish strong and show their support for Alicia, didn’t lose the gold but won the sliver… I was honestly hoping for some Marta propaganda, it would have been more interesting

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Really because that doesn’t explain why Nastia was whining about the Chinese cheating on talk shows after the Olympics if they “won ” silver which by the way is a fucking Shannon Miller The fact that they only talk about the medals is more than enough proof to why I don’t and won’t waste 45 minutes of my life watching this shit. It sounds just like Marta prop because she changed the losing mentality which by the way only happened with that one quad of lazy ass brats.

      I am convinced Alicia has some dirt on USAG and they know it which is why the kiss her ass so much. She is the ultimate mean girl and divided the girls as much as she allegedly brought them together.

      • hobarttdavid Says:

        Right, the dirt is on Penny and his love for either little girl or boy gymnasts.

    • Short1 Says:

      ‘Fluff’ pretty much sums it up. Although from what someone on Tumblr said there’s supposedly more to the documentary. “Shorter bits coming out each week,” as the person put it.

  4. Ilanchik20 Says:

    I actually liked more than I thought. There was some old camp footage. Like from 2001-2002. I wonder why they kept it all those years? I also like seeing baby Asac and alike, haha.

    I’m surprised they bothered to interview Hollie or I guess surprised Hollie agrees to their request, given her exoeriences.

    And I know that USAG is trying to keep their distance from Maroney but I’m so annoyed they didn’t bother to include her. She was the only Olympian not featured. She did the best amanar ever done for you in TF and you don’t even bother? That’s really my major complaint. They included interview bits from McCool in at least 2-3 places and what has she done exactly? Sigh.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Did they interview only gold medalists of did Katie Heenan get a mention?

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        They didn’t interview anyone from pre 2000. It started with a changed system and 2003, really. So at least no Moceanu

        There wasn’t any interviews with Marta or Bela either. Maybe later–in one of the weekly mini-episodes.

        I’m kind of thinking they may announce Marta’s replacement in the last mini episode.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Heenan won a bronze in 2001 so no mention?

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        Right, no. They didn’t mention any competition before 2003, as if those didn’t exist, haha.

        The first competition they featured was 2003 world’s and how awesome it all went, haha, despite all the injuries. In retrospect, I forgot they competed that team finals with 5 members cause Kupets got hurt during QF.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        If anything the 2001 Worlds team deserves credit for bringing things back and it also proves what I said below, the 97-00 girls thought they were too good to train hard and expected to win without putting in the work. Tasha, Katie and that group got the US back in the medal hunt even if no medals but that will never be mentioned. It also reminds me of a blog I meant to write years ago and never got around to it. I think I will write that blog in the next few days.

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        They featured Schkwert quite a bit so it was nice to see. I’ve always liked her but I think she has s rocky relationship with USAG now.

        Sadly I always forget Heenan. What did she do? Lol

        I think there just wasn’t enough talent in 1997-2000. Maloney worked hard but was too injured. Atler could have been much better if she had mental strength. The rest were iffy at best.

      • G Says:

        lol remember when Tasha said she was like the “Dennis Rodman of gymnastics?” I’m surprised they put her in there as well.

        And even though Morgan White was mediocre at best, I always feel bad that she got hurt in Sydney and never got to compete. Though, really, I guess the team was probably better off with Tasha seeing how she was the only solid one there.

    • Gymbot Says:

      I thought they interviewed everyone but I guess mckayla wasn’t there. At least her teammates mentioned her perfect vault so she wasn’t totally erased

  5. exgymgurl Says:

    Its like if you did a recap of everything since 2002 and left our McKayla Maroney and only talked about positive things and recapped events as if even the adversity were nothing. It was the most boring gymnastics documentary or whatever you would call it ( Id call it more a series of interviews than a documentary).

    The most interesting part was that Kyla did not say the word and um once. Its like someone finally told her and she finally fixed it. They don’t even hardly talk about or focus on Chellsie wining AA in 2005, or Shawn winning AA gold in 2007. They did not include Bross, They did not talk about Hollie Vise’s fall, but they interviewed her. They all looked like Stepford people just saying whatever they had been told to say by USA Gymnastics.

    Bella and Barta were not interviewed ( that’s my new name for Marta is Barta BTW). It was worse fluff than a BTR, worse fluff than NBC Olympic background, no adversity, more like we are really all pretty well off and privileged and we just go to the ranch. The other interesting part was that even McCool looked like someone the cat had dragged in, and nothing was said about her not participating in TF. The only person who mentioned best friends was Kupets. The rest was pretty much gag worthy. Gabby was not gag worthy which was weird, she was actually almost humble.

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      Barta, haha.
      Did they even mention Jordyn’s gold win in 2011 or even Sloan’s in 2009? It’s like the US could give a rat’s ass if you’re a world champion, and it wasn’t until the 90s that the US could even produce one.
      When they showed a segment of Jordyn in the interview I was kind of shocked how much different she looked. She almost looked like Carly Patterson later in life, haha. Or maybe it was Carly and I just didn’t get a good “look.”

      They don’t say Chellsie won worlds because that was “supposed” to be Nastia’s medal.

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        They had a 30 second mention of Bridget winning AA gold and maybe a minute one of Jordyn. They had an image of Chellsie on a medal stand getting the AA gold but didn’t say anything about it lol.

        You could tell they did some of those interviews a while ago. Jordyn’s face looks like she gained weight which was from that period when she gained a bit of weight right after she retired, which she has now lost.

        Hollie and Kupet’s interviews look like they were done before they both had babies.

        Carly had too much make-up on.

        So basically I’d say this is at least a year in the making, haha.

      • Gymbot Says:

        If there was a team competition they just mentioned additional medals won by Americans. If the gymnast won th all around, their other medals in event finals were listed at the end in text.

    • Brittany Says:

      I think McCool just had a baby right before this interview. Like, within a month of this.

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        Okay but mccool still could have done her hair and put make up on to look less ragged. Or someone at USAG could have done her hair better than a doorag

      • SS Says:

        I have to agree. I was only paying partial attention and when I saw her I honestly thought I had switched to an episode of intervention. I couldn’t believe that’s what she looked like. It looks like they told everyone else they were making a movie and then just swung by her gym during a practice…
        I enjoyed the piece however there was no new information. Everything was fluff and very “uplifting.” I’m impressed Hollie was willing to participate; I wonder if her hands are tied because of her husband?

  6. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Just for the record, there are news that Komova has been in the hospital again. Sources quoting Valentina say that her participation in the Europeans is in danger. There were obviously saving the fifth spot for her, but if she is not going, probably Seda or Kharenkova will take her place. Russia likes to test their Olympic team in the Europeans, so if Komova is not ready for it, Russia will probably think twice before taking her to Rio, but it is only a rumor yet.

    • Ilanchik20 Says:

      Not really a rumor. Valentina has said that Vika is back in the hospital and will miss Euro’s as she gets healthy for Rio. Of course, Valentina may change her mind but that’s a diff story.

      Honestly, I doubt we’ll see Vika in Rio–her body is too broken, physically and mentally. And even more honestly, unless she is back in AA, which won’t happen, if she is spending this much time in the hospital, Valentina should take someone else. If Vika is only useful on bars and maybe beam (which she falls off too much anyways), someone else should go.

      I like Vika but I don’t think her body can handle another Olympics, which is really sad cause based on her interviews, she wants it.

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        Thank you for confirming it, Ilanchik. I wasn’t sure.

        The problem with Vika is that they are waiting for her. They are willing to hold her spot just for the hope she can compete and I don’t think they should do that. If she is injuried in May and had been out of serious and complete training for God-knows-how-long, it’s impossible that she will be at her peak for Rio. But they are willing to make exceptions for her, just for her name, something I don’t think it’s convenient or fair. Russia has some depth now and they desperately need another AA gymnast with good scores on floor, where they are less competitive. If Vika is healthy enough for Rio, I don’t think she will be able to do the AA and they are already taking Aliya, who is, at this moment, more a bars/beam specialist than an AA gymnast and Paseka, who doesn’t have a really usable floor. Without a real AA potential and a dubious state of health, I think too that Vika shouldn’t be selected for Rio. I love her gymnastics (except when she makes me scream in frustration because she just seems to give up), but it would be totally reckless from Russia’s part to take her and left home good, healthy gymnast with good score potential like Seda or Skrypnik. But I think that Valentina will get her in the team if she is remotely healthy/useful, because it what she has been doing every time she has been able to return to the team or we have heard rumours that she could be able to do so.

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        I think Russia would be at a real disadvantage if they take the four veterans and Melnikova:

        1) Out of that group, only Melnikova is doing AA. Aliya, maybe, just because she is Aliya and she knows how to pull it off, when she wants. Vika couldn’t do AA last year, she is certainly not doing AA this year.
        2) Afan is barely in one piece. Hasn’t really been training been much and I heard her ankle is making it hard to train a lot of repetitions on vault. But they need her floor do she’ll go.
        3) Paseka doesn’t train beam and her floor is very weak. But they need her vault so she’ll go.
        4) Aliya is going

        So essentially they need another AA’er. I really hope Valentina realizes that instead of taking 4/5 of London team.

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        If they were all on meldonium long term as I suspect, their bodies and their hearts can’t take the same level of training especially if the drug was abruptly withdrawn after worlds last year. This all makes me wonder about all the blood issues slutskya had in figure skating as a long term side effect of this medication.

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        I agree with you, Ilanchik. I don’t think that Aliya is doing the AA, but she was able to do it in Baku with good results, so who knows? In any case, her AA is at risk. I think they are taking Afan because they feel they have a disadvantage on floor that they can paliate with her. And, while it is true the need new floors badly, you can’t take a one event gymnast in a five members team. It has its sense when Afan could do a nice vault and usable beam, but I don’t think she is in any condition to do so now. If she is able to pull a nice vault, I would reconsider, but we don’t know it. So they have a team full of athletes that are a great, but are way to injuried and only a real AA gymnast. If they take Komova too, I suppose it all would be as this:
        -Vault: Paseka, Melnikova and ¿¿?? (Aliya, Afan and Komova can do another vault, but we don’t know if any of them are in condition to do so).
        -UB: Komova, Aliya, Melnikova.
        -Beam: Melnikova, Aliya, Komova.
        .Floor: Afan, Melnikova and ¿¿?? (Aliya could fit the bill if she is healthy and Komova, too, but we don’t know if they can and to use Paseka in this apparatus mean that you have a score below the 14.00 range in a good day).
        Seda would fit the bill in any of the apparatus as Komova’s substitute and she is a contender for the AA. It’s insane for Russia just to have an AA contender when you can easily have two in the top 10.
        I don’t trust Valentina’s judgement on this. She said after the Russian Championships that the fifth spot would go to Komova if she was healthy, Seda or Spiridonova. Spiridonova, really? I love her bars, but she is esentially one event gymnast in an event they are already strong on. Shegulnova or even Kharenkova, who had improved her floor, would be much better options. In any case, we will see in the Europeans. A lot of teams like to reserve their best gymnasts in the Olympic year and not send the best to the Europeans, but usually the Russian team that goes to the Europeans is the chosen for the Olympics, so we will see how it goes. I miss Grishina in this instance. She would have been a good choice.

    • Ss Says:

      They need to focus on their new talent. You would think they wouldn’t rely so much on old talent after what has happened to Romania.

    • Melanie Says:

      What happened to the gymnasts who made up other worlds teams this quad? What happened to Rodionova, Kramarenko, Sosnitskaya? Did they just disappear into thin air? I can’t believe that Seda who can’t stay on a beam to save her life should be on this team.

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        Kramarenko had been around since 2007 and retired not so long ago. Alla had a nasty injury last year and she is trying to recover. She was at the Russian Championships this year, but she only did vault and even in this event, she didn’t place amongst the three best, so I don’t think she has a shot at this Olympics. I hope to see her in the future, though. Rodionova is also retired, after she had an ankle injury that she was unable to recover.

        The problem with Seda is that she has the difficulty and the performance, but is highly unreliable, as you says. She was the second AA this year in the Russian Championships after Melnikova and won vault gold, an apparatus Russia could use her (especially if Komova/Mustafina/Afan can’t do it). She didn’t have any falls until the last day, when she had five falls between beam and floor. The point is: Does Russia takes her second best gymnast to the Olympics, who can give them a good deal of points if she hits, and pray she doesn’t fall, or takes another gymnast who is more reliable, but won’t give them that points of advantage? It’s a question of the risk you are willing to take with her. Russia has depht this year to choose. Kharenkova had a good performance and new talents like Skypnik are showing promise, but Seda is still in the running because, despite her falls, she is the second best AA they have right now and they need another one desperately.

  7. JAS4 Says:
  8. Exgymgurl Says:

    I think you will see the US, China and either Brazil or the UK take the third team medal. Maybe Italy even sneaks in. This is not Russia’s quad or year

    • Ilanchik20 Says:

      I vote Brazil for third. I then also vote for someone to ask Valentina how it feels to lose to Brazil–a team that is coached by Alexandrov who she kicked out.

      Okay, I need this to happen now.

    • Rocío Martínez López Says:

      Brazil has good talent, but they couldn’t even classify directly for the Olympics. They have a better team this year, but to think they could sneak her way to the podium is unrealistic. GB have great power on vault and UB, but beam kills them. Even when they hit, they have low scores. I agree with US and China’s podium, but Russia can’t be taken away of the equotation, even if they are unreliable. If they hit, especially with Melnikova in the team, they are strong enough to get a team medal.

      • Cupquaked Says:

        I agree. Russia, even in its injured state, is still a major contender for bronze. But honestly, other than first, it’s about who falls the least. Between China, Russia, and GB I don’t think they’ve ever gone to a competition where they haven’t had at least 1 fall. Whereas the US has had multiple meets with no falls. Unless we majorly screw up on the day of competition, 1st place is ours. But any number of teams could sneak on to the podium with a clean meet.

  9. JAS4 Says:
    • G Says:

      Oh geez

    • Rocío Martínez López Says:

      Bellu is not in the picture anymore, thankfully. In any case, I will keep Catalina training for the Olympics. Not to compete with Larissa, but in case Larissa gets injuried. Unfortunately, any gymnast can get injuried, so its convenient to have a plan B. But that spot is Larissa’s.

    • gymbot Says:

      Larissa should go if healthy enough to compete. Ponor should go if Larissa is unable.

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        Well it’s not our decision, it’s Romania’s and it will come down to who B+ B think has the most medal potential Larissa has AA and maybe floor or beam ( although she always falls at worlds). Cata has floor and beam because she doesn’t do bars. Larissa has been inconsistent at worlds and until this last vault Cata has been the model of consistency. Larissa realistically won’t earn gold anywhere if Simone is competing. Neither will Cata, honestly I could Larissa going and only getting a bronze and I could see the same thing happening with Cata. Only advantage here is Cata can stop training vault, and only compete floor / beam

  10. JAS4 Says:
    • Case Says:

      Wow that code changes things up a bit. Especially on vault.

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        They are reducing the composition requirement on other events from a 2.5 to 2, which is why they r reducing vault by .5 so essentially nothing really will change.

      • gymbot Says:

        These are all the same changes as in the provisional code released after Glasgow. Just FYI, the front handspring 1/1 is already equal to a DTY in the current code (5.8) and I wouldn’t expect the diversity vaults to change with this code. since it seems yurchenkos are trained every universally at the elite level.

        Or the importance of the vaults… it shouldn’t change unless how the scoring of hit vaults is changed. Removing about 5 tenths from every event keeps the scores in the same relative position, the average E score for vault is still going to be 8.5 and the average E score for all the other events is still going to be 7.0 (estimate Es, I don’t know how much it varies). So for team competition, strong vaulters will still be selected over other events

  11. Guest Says:

    People Magazine gave a lot of coverage on Shawn’s wedding and of course People has paid her for exclusive releases. Maybe she is the first gymnast did a such thing? (and anyone know how was MLR’s)

  12. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    The videos from the Test Event are already on YouTube. At last! Here is Flavia’s floor:

  13. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    And Sanne Wevers’ beam (with Flavia’s floor):

  14. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    And Lieke Wevers’ floor:

  15. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    And Cata’s beam:

  16. dianajc99 Says:

    this is going to RIO.

    • Cupquaked Says:

      What happened to her friend, Alaina? She was better than Kylie, I thought? Also. I googled Kylie and she has an official website that talks about how her goal in gymnastics was to compete internationally on the USA national team…

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