And with this it ends for Romania…IMO


Team Results

Qualified Teams and Athletes

Romania is now officially out of the Olympics and I have a hard time feeling sorry for them. This is what happens when you see a problem and you have seen it for at least 8 years and you do nothing about. Anyone associated with the Romanian federation for gymnastics should be fired on the spot.


I feel bad for the girls especially those like Diana Bulimer that have been training for 4 years for nothing. I feel sorry for Larisa Iordache who has carried the program on her back for so many years and yet she still could be passed over for an Olympic spot due to sucky luck.  I even feel a little bad for Catalina Ponor who came out of retirement just for the Olympics ( though at least she had her dreamed fulfilled multiple times before) but mostly I feel bad for the Andreea Iridon ,Silvia Zarzu and names I’ll never know because they never received the  proper attention from their federation and will never be given their chance to compete at an Olympics.


So now what Romania? Will you now stop trying to bring back Belu and Bitang every 4 years to brow beat  these kids into submission or will you hire some real coaches (starting with bars) and get your ass in gear?

Oh and it shouldn’t have to be said but if Romania doesn’t give their one spot to Larisa Iordache I hope they never qualify for another Olympics again. It’s a NO BRAINER. Larisa has carried this team for years. This is her spot.


Men’s Team Results

Qualified for Olympic teams

Germany: 350.609

Ukraine: 350.160

Ned: 347.444

France: 346.583




College Nation Championships Prelims

Session 1

Florida 197.4750

LSU 197.335

Georgia 196. 7250

Session 2

Oklahoma 197.7875

Alabama 197.3875

UCLA 196.700


1- Bridget Sloan 39.700 (Florida)

2- Chayse Capps 39.6125 (Oklahoma)

3- Myia Hambrick 39.5625  ( LSU)




261 Responses to “And with this it ends for Romania…IMO”

  1. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    In it`s supposed to be a live feed of the preolympics, but it doesn’t work very well. I tried to post the link yesterday, but I wasn’t published. Probably, wordpress thought I was spam, 🙂

  2. Guest Says:

    Here is engagement photo gallery from Shawn. 😉
    (and where is GymMom)

  3. gymbot Says:

    I hope they qualify and Bitang and Belu try to crawl back but are kicked out by some sport supervisory person Romania.

    • Rocío Martínez López Says:

      The problem is that Belu and Bitang are still considered as the greatest coaches that had take Romania to its gymnastic glory. In the articles I have read in english from Romania about their retirement, they are still named as the “best Romanian coaches ever”, so if they try to crawl back after Romania’s classification, I am sure they will let them.

      • gymbot Says:

        You’re right but one can wish anyway 😉

      • H Says:

        Is there a possibility that Belu and Bitang said they were to retire just to put “political pressure” to get more funding (and that the gymnasts actual know this) ?

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        I don’t know anything about it. Belu has been mad for a while because he was in the Romanian Ministry of Sports after their retirement in 2005, tried to get a higher position and was defeated, so he was pissed. If he wanted more money to go to gymnastics, he was then in the position to get them some, not now. They had enemies, though, so I won’t rule the political pressure to get them out of the picture, but I haven’t heard anything about money. They could be crying “wolf” though, because is not the first time they have wanted something and the ministry told them “no”, so they threatened to go knowing that they don’t have anyone else to fill their shoes. If they are applying preassure, it’s for themselves, not for the girls. I think they don’t want to be the coaches that are in the first Olympics in which Romania isn’t in the team final or not getting a team medal, so they are going away now.

  4. dianajc99 Says:

    parental bragging the next level. The plate frame reads my daughter won to bronze medals in Athens.
    i really hope she’s an only child

  5. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Oh, for the record, Romania competes tomorrow in the first rotation. May the force be with them…and stay in the effing UB!

    • dianajc99 Says:

      I’ll be up at 5:30 for updates. they start on bars right?

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        Thinks so, yes. At least, it will be out of their way soon. On the other hand, if that goes badly, it could influence all their competition, so I don’t know if that is good or bad. They only had one fall in UB in Podium Training, so that’s good. Even if it is sad to see Romania, the ever consistent Romania in the older times, to consider one fall as a very good thing.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Please update cuz I will be sleeping

  6. Cupquaked Says:

    Woah. When they say John Geddert, do they mean Jordyn’s Geddert? I didn’t realize he trained elites anymore, American or otherwise…

    • dianajc99 Says:

      yup thats him. he has some junior elites. from the usa

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        Yep, same Geddert. It was wrong for T&T to pull Thema but geez, why can’t he just keep his mouth shut. They wanted to pull her out and replace her with Dick from the beginning and he gave them a perfect ammunition with his “report” (saying her training didn’t go well.) He screwed Jo’s beam and now he screwed Thema. Ugh.

        I know he didn’t pull her so it’s not entirely his fault but jeez. Angry here.

      • dianajc99 Says:

        same thought here.

  7. dianajc99 Says:

    That was an EPIC Super Six

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Just sat through all of that. Everyone got gifts but right team won. Florida finishing 4th is sad for Bridget but considering the gifts they got ten times bigger than everyone else they were lucky to be 4th.

      Glad LSU didn’t win for taking away Lizzy leduc’s scholarship.

      • dianajc99 Says:

        didn’t leduct deffer?

      • gymmom2 Says:

        No, in fact Lizzy made it to Nationals as an individual competitor on Floor.

      • tulip Says:

        Late to the party on this topic but I just had to say congratulations to the NCAA judges for doing their jobs and scoring the gymnasts reasonably fairly. The best team on the.floor won, something we haven’t seen for a few years. I’m sure FL didn’t know how to react to being scored to the same standards as everyone else.

        Happy for Sloan that she won AA and 2 event titles. I’m looking forward to not seeing Bridgey C do that awful, low energy floor routine next year that scores 9.95 because she’s last. Ugh…

        Can’t wait for Rio

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Surprisingly I thought Oklahoma was a little bit overscored especially on beam where their routines were clean but had nothing in them but I was happy to see Florida scored fairly.

  8. JAS4 Says:

    Anyone have an idea of what her start value would be?

  9. dianajc99 Says:

    SJ is trending on E online

  10. H Says:

    From tumblr: Tan Jaixi is doing an amanar, China is stepping it up in the OG year. Maybe (lets keep hoping) the team final will be a bit more exciting this year.

  11. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Romania is already in trouble and this is just starting. 12.866 for Holbura, 11.733 for Bulimar and I don’t have Ocolisan’s score but she fell. 😦

  12. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    They decided that they are not going to let Zarzu try to improve a score (five go and four count, but if Zarzu is not trying, that mean that they have to count every score). If she isn’t injuried, why wouldn’t let her try? She has really no hopes to improve Bulimar’s 11.733, for God’s sake? 50.599 for Romania in UB.

  13. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    For their part, Australia has a good rotation in vault, with scores about mid 14.000’s. 56.530. Romania is already about five points behind Australia after first rotation.

  14. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    A private person (God bless him) is periscoping the whole competition. The Romanian channel doesn’t work very well, so it is the only source I could find that works remotely well:

  15. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Good beam for Didi, but her score is a little down, because is a watered down routine. 14.151. Dipa Karkamar landed her Produnova with a 15.066 and the one she showed in Podium Training was even better, so we have a contender here for gold on vault.

  16. tennisgrl456 Says:

    14.6 for Ponor! They really need help from Australia now…aka falls on beam. Since they are now going to have to count a fall :/ (Ocolisan put her hands down on her dismount and another Romanian gymnast fell from the beam). Plus they still have to contend with the scores for France and Belgium to come, since Brazil and Germany are essentially locks.

    Not looking good.

    • Rocío Martínez López Says:

      I think they need to be at least before Australia to have a real chance to make it, because Brazil and Germany is probably going ahead and them Belgium is a real threat. They need to stay ahead Australia for sure.

    • tennisgrl456 Says:

      Yeah, they’re basically going to need to pray for a melt down from France or Belgium.

    • tennisgrl456 Says:

      Oh, absolutely. If they finish behind Australia they are 100%, no question, out of the running to qualify a team.

  17. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Fuck, Ocolisan fell in her dismount.

  18. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    55.007 for beam rotation. 6 points behind Australia at this point.

  19. tennisgrl456 Says:

    God, the Romanian men didn’t qualify either…what a disaster :/

    • tennisgrl456 Says:

      This is the time when AA medals not counting towards an Olympic bid are really going to fuck over a country big time. If Larisa had earned an automatic berth as a result of her AA bronze last year, she could go to Rio AND the Romanians could send Cata. Now, assuming they don’t qualify a team, they can only send one gymnast and (presumably) Cata will have come back only to get shafted.

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        Question: yesterday, with the men, as Ray qualified in the top three for floor, he is going to Rio and we (Spain) can send another person too. It’s the same for the women? I mean, the three best on every apparatus get to go plus the AAers who classify? That way, if Cata finishes in top three on beam or floor, they could send Cata and Larissa, but I am not sure.

      • tennisgrl456 Says:

        Nope, Cata didn’t compete and medal on an individual event at last years worlds so she has no guaranteed spot (and neither does Larisa bc for some reason an AA medal doesn’t guarantee you a spot).

        Let’s say that Germany failed to qualify (which they won’t, but go with me)…Pauline Schaefer won a bronze medal on beam at last years worlds so she has an automatic berth. If the team did NOT place in the top 4, she would be guaranteed an individual spot AND Germany could send 1 more gymnast. Had Larisa medalled on an individual event last year, then they would be able to send one other gymnast, but since she didn’t, the team will only be allowed to send one.

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        Thank tennisgrl! I am a little confused, because with the men is different and they say that there are different kinds of spots and I am a little lost about this.

      • tennisgrl456 Says:

        Sure! The qualifying process is the same with the men and the women. No one qualifies from finishing top 3 on an individual event on the test event. The reason Spain can send another is bc Ray won the bronze on floor at last years worlds. Had the Spanish men qualified a team here, his automatic spot would have “gone away” and he would he would have to contend for a spot on the team for Rio.

        I just realized that the Romanian men are basically in the same situation. They failed to qualify but Dragulesu won silver on vault last year so his Olympic berth is secured, meaning that Romania can send another male gymnast.

  20. Exgymgurl Says:

    Peace out Romania…..

  21. Exgymgurl Says:

    Floor looked bad too
    THey just aren’t ready. It’s like 2003 worlds the coaches yelled at ocolisan

    • tennisgrl456 Says:

      Yeah, so far one gymnast OOB, one solid, and one OOB + a fall. This is the end of the road for them.

    • tennisgrl456 Says:

      Ponor apparently looked solid on floor and got a 14.3 (the team’s highest score, plus the team’s highest score on beam). It truly sucks that she is not going to get to go to the Olympics after all of this.

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      Well let’s look at the bright side. maybe Marta and Bella will go back to Romania after this quad with Nadia and save Romanian gymnastics. If Romania had allowe pitic to continue and worked with her, they would have had a solid 13.8 even with not perfection on bars and a decent AA score. They could give ponor the AA spot instead of iordache so she could qual for beam / floor. Ponor may be having her last meet. THats sad

      • Gymbot Says:

        If Romania allowed who to continue?

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        PItic, Raluca Haidu or even chelaru, or if they hadn’t burned out races and porgras. The 2012 team should have been completely different

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  23. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    What a dissaster. Romania at 4 points from Australia entering the last rotation. Scores: Ponor 14.300 (WTF?), Bulimar: 14.033, Zarzu: 12.466, Vulcan: 12.966 and Holbura: 13.541. Total floor: 54.840

  24. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Bulimar: 14.033 on vault. Ocolisan: 14.333. Zarzu: 13.991. And Cata falls on vault!

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      They need Marta and Bella and Romanian petroleum to rescue them… Something is just wayyyy off in their training. bring Chow over to coach as well, he can coach bars, he has no great elites for the next quad. Or Mary lee Tracy. Or Kelli hill. Any of them. We need a Kickstarter / go fund me to pay for a coach for the next few years. THese people in charge make forminte look amazing….

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Mihai coIld do a better job coaching UB for Romania them a single coach they have e had over the last 8 years

  25. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Vulcan: 13.766. Ponor: 12.333. Final score for Romania: 216.569. Lower than Glasgow.

  26. tennisgrl456 Says:

    Romania ends with a 216.569

  27. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    With scores still to be reflected, Romania is two points behind Australia. Something really abismal have to happen to the other contender for Romania to classify.

    • tennisgrl456 Says:

      Yeah…they’d basically have to have half of their gymnasts fall down a flight of stairs/come down with food poisoning right now. And then the team from Australia would have to test positive for banned substances or something. So essentially no chance of them qualifying.

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        I was thinking of food poisoning or something along those lines, but yeah. In fact, Australia has improved and, taking into account last years’ team secores, they have little chances of classifying either. So, basically, yes, Romania is sooooooo out..

  28. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Australia’s total: 218.428. Nightmare doesn’t begin to cover it for Romania.

  29. Exgymgurl Says:

    Well, I guess now we see what Nellie Kim really thinks….

  30. Exgymgurl Says:

    Oh and my joy this morning is that Sloan did not win a national championship without Kytra. Alex Mc Murtry, and Alicia Boren are not Kytra, and holding Kennedy Bakers scores down by putting her first on everything isn’t helping the team at all. NO one delivered anything extraordinary for Florida. No one was amazing for LSU either, and Oklahoma was just themselves. And they killed it. Without Brenna Dowell. And Brenna dowell didn’t say anything until after. See Mackenzie Wofford is getting redemption.

    • tennisgrl456 Says:

      God, that competition was so tight but I am THRILLED that OU won and Florida placed 4th 😉

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        had they not held back Kennedy baker amnd had put someone else like Peyton Ernst in that lead off on beam, they may have won. Their new coach is not Rhonda foehn, and there’s no way Rhonda would hold a gymnast of kennedys caliber back like that

  31. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Bulimar, as Romania first classified All Arounder, is on 4th place with 53.940 after taking out several contenders of Poland and Hungary, who will only be able to send one gymnast. With them added, I suppose Didi would be on 7th or 8th place.

    • tennisgrl456 Says:

      At this point it doesn’t really matter. She is not competing for a nominative individual spot. Since Romania won’t qualify, the federation will be given one spot and they won’t be giving it to her (unless Iordache, Ponor, and Jurca are taken out with season ending injuries as the Olympics approach).

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        Yes, I know, but that only made me sadder. It’s like, they have had such a meltdown that not only the team is not classified, but also their best AA gymnast of the meet is low when the top contenders like Brazil or Germany are still to go. If Iordache is ok, they’ll send her for sure. If not, I think they have more chances to bring home a medal sending Ponor that Jurca.

      • tennisgrl456 Says:

        Sorry, for the misunderstanding! You’re absolutely right, it is sad how this team fell apart and I would honestly put most of the blame on the coaching staff/federation.

        The only reason I mentioned Jurca was to go down the list of who would go if X person got injured. I think she would be third in line if, God forbid, Iordache and Ponor both ended up unable to compete.

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        It’s possible Romania could get two spots, if they got a rep spot from Africa if there wasn’t another qualified gymnast from Africa. IT really would not surprise me to see Nellie Kim make this happen

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        No problem, tennisgrl! Yeah, I think they will send Ponor. I think that they need above anything else, even more than a UB expert, a sport psycologist. They have been having problems of consistency with the younger girls for a while now and this kind of meltdown, two years in a row, is far from normal. In any case, I hope Cata stays healthy for this year. She deserves to go with a bang and she can shine in the European Championships, especially if Larissa is not healthy yet for that.

  32. tennisgrl456 Says:

    Well the Belo-American Kylie Dickson got a 50.798 to try to qualify as an individual. About as good as a crappy American junior having an awful competition.

    • Cupquaked Says:

      What did she beed to qualify as an individual? Anything below 55 is basically crap, yeah? Bc isn’t the USA elite qualifier score like a 54.5 or something?

      I still don’t understand Belarus. They brought in two americans that were marginally better than their current elites and that in turn caused their girls to quit. Which I’m guessing is the reverse of what they wanted to have happen, right?

  33. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Dipa’s Produnova:

  34. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    You can see Cata’s vault here: There are several rumours going on about Cata’s vault. She did a FTY in Podium Training and she said then that she hasn’t trained it since her injury, but that her vault was necessary. So today, it seemed that she second guessed herself and several people is saying that she was attempting to do a DTY because she knew that her team needed her score to be as high as possible. They have to pinpoint the vaults they are attempting, so it shouldn’t be difficult to know if she was doing a DTY with a better image. If she was attempting a DTY without training it for more than a year, I don’t know if I would knock her for putting herself at risk or praise her for her balls.

  35. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Next subdivision: Steingruber scored 14.708 on floor. Saravia: 14.566 on beam.

  36. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Gabby Jump: 14.433 on bars.

  37. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Beckie Downey had a scary exercise in UB. She hit her face in the low bar after she missed grabbing it. But she still finished her exercise and scored 12.633.

  38. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    11.666 for Chuso on bars. Chuso better be in this Olympics. After Romania’s debacle, we need this legend there.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Help me out here I don’t have access to the info right now so is Romania out officially or do they still have a slight chance ? I honestly have no clue who is left to compete or who competed already . I know Great Britain is here but they already qualified and that Australia is ahead of Romania and are 1, 2 after the first session but who is left to compete that can knock them out of top.

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        Nothing is official yet. Only Australia and Romania have finished (Australia ahead of Romania). Now are competing Switzerland and Brazil and Germany, Belgium, France and Korea are still to go. Brazil and Germany are going to be ahead of them by far and, with a score lower than Glasgow for Romania, Belgium probably will be ahead too. That, without taking France into account, would take Romania out of Rio. They have achieved really low scores. With their scores, even France can be ahead. Almost three teams have to be horrible for Romania to classify.

      • Gymbot Says:

        Absolutely no chance, the other teams are too good and consistent. Romania could have qualified with a healthy Iordache, she probably adds about 8 points to the team score with mid 14 or even a 15 on her events

  39. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Brazil: 56.531 on BB. Switzerland: 54.040 on floor. Brazil rotation for BB was higher than Romania’s and Romania’s floor was only like 0.8 points ahead Switzerland.

  40. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Switzerland outscored Romania in vault and are ahead of them after two subdivisions.

  41. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Wevers in BB: 14.500

  42. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Saravia’s floor exercise: 14.150, but they said that she has downgraded it.

  43. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Brazil: 55.374 on Floor. Almost the same than in Glasgow. Better than Romania on this apparatus. If they achieve almost the same score than in Glasgow, they probably classify without problems. Brazil is only one point ahead from Switzerland, but Switzerland has done her two best events (vault and floor).

  44. Gymbot Says:

    Assuming chuso scores well on vault she could pull a 52 to 53, I think she will qualify with that

  45. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Switzerland UB’s total: 53.532. Brazil on vault: 59.040

  46. Gymbot Says:

    I am still upset about Romania. Zarzu only competed vault and floor so why was izbasa discouraged from coming back? Even izbasa could have boosted this team with floor and vault. Stupid stupid stupid. I get they needed bars gymnasts but they dismissed nearly everyone who had a set and benched iridon

  47. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Chuso: 52.465 with a Rudi vault of 14.833. I think that will be enough to send her to Rio! Go, Chuso, go!

  48. Gymbot Says:

    Daniele hypolito did a second vault with a start value of 5.7 does anyone know what it could possibly be?

  49. Gymbot Says:

    Jessica Lopez finished wit 55.265 so she is off to another olympics

    • Gymbot Says:

      Vasiliki millousi too, 54.431

    • dianajc99 Says:

      Is it the top AAers to qualify or is it by score?

      • Gymbot Says:

        It’s ranking after countries with an automatic spot: bottom four teams at the qualifier. Right now the list is:

        Suitzerland gymnast*
        Brazil gymnast*
        Jessica Lopez
        vasiliki milousi
        Zsofia Kovacs from Hungary, beating noemi Maura today
        Australian gymnast*
        Romanian gymnast*
        Katarzyna Jurowska from Poland
        Dipa Karmarkar
        Barboro Mokosova from Slovakia
        Oksana Chusovitina
        Houry Gebeshian, American competing for Armenia
        Ana Derek Croatia
        Elena Escobar Colombia
        Kylie Dickson Belorus

        * these spots are already earned if these teams don’t qualify. Korean France or Belgium and Germany also have a spot if they fail to qualify above Romania

        If Germany qualifies a team, Schaefer loses her automatic spot and up to 37 gymnast will be added based on their rank order at e test event. Maybe only 35 after accounting for tripartite invitation and African representation

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        I think someone counted that out of all the individuals maybe 2-3 won’t make it so Kylie was 50ish will end up going because there are 3 people below her already plus two more subdivisions.

        So Kylie who wouldn’t even qualify elite in the U.S will go to the Olympics. And Cata won’t go, most likely. Sigh.

  50. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Switzerland just surpassed Romania in team qualification. And Chuso’s clasification in official!

  51. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Brazil surpassed Australia by eight points. Romania is in fourth place already.

  52. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    To add insult to injury, Romania is risking to end last today. It’s improbable because Korea is in the mix too, but to end last but one is pretty horrifying for them too.

  53. dianajc99 Says:

    If Switzerland gets 5th somebody’s getting fired.

  54. Ilanchik20 Says:

    So apparently they did replace Thelma and Geddert left her in Brazil by herself. He is reportedly left Brazil last night. This article says Geddert’s daughter’s boyfriend died in his sleep and the funeral is on Monday.

    Part me kind of thinks Geddert wanted Thelma out of the Test event so he could return home.

    • dianajc99 Says:

      I don’t think he’s that low. But he really screwed up with that email;.

      • gymbot Says:

        Even with some falls due to a bad ankle, Thema should have qualified. She could rest up and return for the Olympics months away.

    • gymbot Says:

      A user named “John_Geddert” posted a reply to this loop post stating that Thema isn’t alone, she is with the team manager and he had secured a replacement coach if it would be reserved, but he knew it wouldn’t because of all of his dealings with Trinidad and Tobago. Still, he shouldn’t have written such an e-mail. I’d like to see exactly what it says:

      six falls on three events and practicing weak landings, “asked Thema to pull out a week ago” is all backwards from his previous updates.

  55. dianajc99 Says:

    found this

  56. dianajc99 Says:

    what do u want to bet Romania is cupped up doing some voodoo to jinx the reaming teams

  57. dianajc99 Says:

    part of me wants T&T to crash

  58. dianajc99 Says:

    just saw Cata’s VT. I hope she didn’t injure herself

  59. dianajc99 Says:
  60. H Says:

    Fig gymnastics channel have uploaded a bunch of videos from today, but they are set as private? Why, or have they just geoblocked some countries?

  61. H Says:

    is it official that Chuso made it (that she currently high enough ranked even with the gymnasts to come) ?

  62. Laura Says:

    Devastated for Romania 😦

    • dianajc99 Says:

      WOW this is going to take some time to digest,

      I bet they don’t even have a selection procedure in place for no team.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Is this even a debate really? Iordache should get the place and honestly a wild card should also go t9 Romania. It won happen but it should. 2 girls capable of winning medals in Larisa and Poor vs a last place finisher. I don’t know why this would be a debate IF we had real people in charge

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        I kind of wonder if Nellie Kim will pull some shannigans and get the wildcard for Ponor.

        The BeloAmerican Kylie qualified for Belarus and the African girl did too so Kim may as well put her powers to good use now.

        The whole situation is very sad.

      • Laura Says:

        Can they qualify 2 spots if Diana and Dora finish in the top 24?

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        No, countries without teams can only qualify one spot, unless someone qualified directly from world’s and for Romania no one did. Larisa’s aa spot isn’t a direct qualification unfortunately.

      • dianajc99 Says:

        of course the spot should go to Larisa. can do they get qualified by name if the win an individual event here?
        i.e-Cata wins beam or FX and she gets the spot?

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        Nope, individuals qualify through AA standings today–no qualifiers from event finals. Event qualifiers are directly from world’s only.

        The system sucks. It’s crazy that Kylue who got barely over 50 gets to go and Cata who can actually get a floor/beam medal does not.

      • Laura Says:

        When do they determine the wild card spots?

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        As GTT, I don’t think there are a discussion. If Larissa is healthy, she is going. Period. If she is not healthy, Ponor is going. The other girls are way behind them.

      • gymbot Says:

        No one from Africa competed in the all-around yet, so two spots still to go to Africa, minimum

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        Yeah, I guess Farrah didn’t do AA but she gets a spot anyways–forgot about that. African will get another spot. I’m thinking it may go to Beckett, if she is healthy.

        I think there is only one wildcard spot. I’m sure there r some rules for how its awarded plus a committee vote. No idea. Anyone knows?

        I’m guessing it’s unlikely to go to a country that’s already sending a gymnast to the Olympics.

        Oh and Marissa Dick qualified. Happy for her but feel so bad for Thelma.

  63. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Germany classified for Rio and Romania is officially out of it.

  64. gymbot Says:

    Going into the 4th subdivision: Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe below are the qualifiers (more or less) plus 5 more spots.

    Of 98 spots, 60 goes to the full teams, 4 spots are reserved for the bottom 4 teams at the test event. 1 Tripartate invitation, and Hong Un Jong already gets to go because of her medal at worlds. 2 need to go to Africa still, but technically, representation is already set for the Americas (2 gymnasts), Europe (2 gymnasts), Asia (2 gymnasts) and Oceana (Courtney McGregor NZL)

    So this leaves 30 spots to qualify by AA placement. Here are the gymnasts who are in position to qualify and will have to be beat in the last subdivision to lose a spot:

    1. Ana Gomez – Guatemala (55.498)
    2. Jessica Lopez – Venezuela (Americas quota)
    Under 55.000
    3. Vasiliki Millousi – Greece
    4. Zsofia Kovacs – Hungary (Europe quota)
    5. Ana Perez – Spain
    6. Angelina Ksyla – Ukraine
    Under 54.000
    7. Marcia Vidiaux – Cuba
    8. Filipa Martins – Portugal
    9. Katarzyna Jurkowska – Poland
    Under 53.000
    10. Thi Ha Thanh Phan – Vietnam
    11. Dipa Karmarkar – India
    12. Barbora Mokosova – Slovakia
    13. Courtney McGregor – New Zealand (Oceana Quota)
    14. Oksana Chusovitina – Uzbekistan (Asia quota)
    15. Houry Gebeshian – Armenia
    16. Ariana Orrego – Peru
    Under 52.000
    17. Simona Castro – Chile
    18. Emma Larsson – Sweden
    19. Marisa Dick – Trinidad and Tobago
    Under 51.000
    20. Ana Derek – Crotia
    21. Elena Escobar – Colombia
    22. Kylie Dickson – Belarus
    Under 50.000
    23. Alien Valente – Argentina
    24. Marina Nekrasova – Azerbaijan
    25. Farah Ann Abdul Hadi – Malaysia (49.132)

    • gymbot Says:

      Obviously none will medal in the AA, and by the numbers, the top 24 at the Olympics could be made up of the qualified teams. So there isn’t much of a point, competitively at least. The inclusion argument is obviously a different argument…

      Only Oksana Chusovitina, Phan, Karmarkar, and Vidiaux could find their way into a vault final, maybe at the Olympics.

    • Ilanchik20 Says:

      Schaefer qualified directly from world’s but looses her spot cause Germany now qualified as a team. So that’s one more spot up for grabs.

      • gymbot Says:

        I accounted for that already and didn’t list her spot in this thread.

    • gymbot Says:

      Teja Belak (SLO), Ellis Oreilly (IRL), Toni-Ann Williams (JAM), Irina Sazonova (ISL), Yilmaz Tutya (TUR), and two gymnasts each from Mexico and Austria are competing, so only seven here can qualify – which means the only the bottom two on the above list, Marina Nekrasova and Farah Ann Abdul Hadi are in jeopardy of not reaching the Olympics.

  65. Ilanchik20 Says:

    From ponor’s ig.

    Today it was a sad day for us , Romania unfortunately didn't qualify for Olympics , so sad for me cause actually I come back from retirement just for this …. Well didn't happened ! I don't know what it will happened from now on but I wanna say Thank u for everyone for your support and wanna thank u first to all brasilians that they were calling out loud my name !That was the best moment , a feeling that I haven't feel from long time ago ! I fight for this team till the end I wanted to show that whatever wanna do , u can ! And yes I can still do gymnastics beside my age and not only to do , I still can do at high level ! Anyways thank u again for all your support it was an amazing feeling to compete here in Rio ! Love u all ❤️🙏🏻🙌🏻

    A post shared by Catalina Ponor Official (@catalina_ponor) on


  66. gymbot Says:

    USAG youtube just got the FIG videos, so maybe the women’s competition will be posted here as well?

  67. Mim Says:

    Oh the drama of the test event. Seriously so much going on.

    Cata’s beam was on point and solid. It was really good. Apparently she looked ready to kill someone after Romania’s beam rotation. I am so sad for Romania but thinking this is the wake up call and the kick up the butt they need. Larisa better get the Romanian spot because she’s carried Romania for an entire quad.

    I hate to say it but I’m hoping Belgium or France come 5th so my Aussies get through.. But similar to Romania, maybe not qualifying will give them the kick up the butt to get some new leadership and change the gym program in Australia.

    Swiss coach is hating himself but how can you make that mistake at something as big as the test event??

    • H Says:

      What did the Swiss coach do?

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        In the test event, the format was that five were up and four count. It seems that the swiss coach made a mistake signaling her athlete’s exercise. That caused for the score to not count and they had to add another score that was lower. It was said over Twitter that, with the score that was discarded, they would have been ahead of Australia so, if Switzerland ends 5th, they won’t classify as a team because of that mistake.

      • gymbot Says:


    • gymbot Says:

      That’s the second reference I’ve seen here about the Swiss coach. What mistake did he make?

  68. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Competition is delayed in Rio by 30 minutes due to technical difficulties. People are complaining about the facilities with just a couple of months left before the Olympics. And lets not forget that Brazil is deciding if they sack their president or not today. With all the problems, I don’t know how this Olympics are going to be.

    • Rocío Martínez López Says:

      They should have been in Madrid, dammit!

      • gymbot Says:

        you’ll have to wait at least 12 years right? Madrid isn’t in the bid for 2024. If it’s Paris or Rome you should go

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        Madrid isn’t going to be in the next rooster. We tried in 2012 and 2016, we are not going to try for a long time now. But it would be great for an European championships or World championship to be here. We had all the facilities already in place and good communications. I have been in Rome and it’s a beautilful city, but they are batshit crazy. Paris will be good, but I don’t think I could justify to invest so much money to go there from Madrid to see gymnastics. 😦

  69. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    The girls are still waiting more that 30 minutes after the appointed hour of beginning. That must be nervewracking for them.

  70. H Says:

    Ponor is first on BB and second on floor with only one sub div left.
    Does not makes sense that she is denied being an Olympian when so many etc. Where is the wildecard?

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      The wild card usually goes to some no name. Who was it four years ago that had an outside shot at a floor birth (Elsa Garcia maybe) but instead they sent some no name from some no name Country. It’s not about medals it’s about bringing in more Countries. Even if they suck.

  71. Exgymgurl Says:

    Now it matters how much Nadia and Marta and Bella kiss Nellie Kim’s butt. IT could happen for cata, alongside ponor

    • Ilanchik20 Says:

      Lauren said that the wild card–tripartite spot–must got to a country from 2015 world’s with fewest number of Olympic participants at the last Olympics. Romania is not on that list. So essentially, the only way for Ponor to go is if Larissa is injured. Sucks all-around.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I knew there were crazy rules and I never thought Ponor could get that spot i thought it was stupid she couldn’t get it. It makes more sense to me to send gymnast with a shot at a medal then some no name gymnast with no shot, hence the wild card spot being STUUUUUpid.

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        I don’t think Cata will get a wildcard, as much as I would like it. But I agree with Exgymgurl on the fact that a lot of ass kissing, exceptional circunstances and stupidities like that could bend the FIG’s rules. I imagine gymnastics’ special brand of Axis of Evil (aka Nellie Kim, Martha, Belu &Bitang and maybe Valentina Rod) having a coffee and looking for ways to grant Romania another gymnast, but I don’t think they can achieve that.

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      Nellie Kim can and will change the rules as can the fig to suit themselves

    • Rocío Martínez López Says:

      Or they can say: “Oh, we have been getting complaints that is unfair that the only ones with no guaranteed spots are the AAers, so, as the other two AAers winners from Glasgow are from a classified country (SB and GD), we are giving Romania a wildcard to compensate for this, because, otherwise, Iordache would be classified and they would be able to take another gymnast”. I can see them using that excuse. We have seen weirdest things (ejem, Sydney, ejem), even if I don’t think it will happen.

  72. Guest Says:

    Shawn uploaded her wedding clip in IG but deleted it soon (I don’t know why), but the origin link is still available. 😳

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  73. dianajc99 Says:

    well Switzerland would have still barely missed. I guess that guys job is safe!!

  74. dianajc99 Says:

    USA today even covered the Rom mess

  75. dianajc99 Says:

    you know thinking it over… I would send the karoliys back to ROM.There Country needs them..

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      I was thinking about this and I don’t think it would work. Not enough cattle to turn against each other like she does here.

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        In one of her interviews, Marta said she plans to go to Romania after her retirement. She said she wants to spent a year there. Maybe she can do some coaching on the side lol.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Do they really want her coaching Her gymnasts were crap at them.

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        I told you Bella and Marta will save them. All of them.

  76. Ilanchik20 Says:

    God, I’m still so annoyed that Kylie gets to go to Olympics for getting 50.4ish at the test event. It’s almost 5 points away from elite qualifying score. And then Bailie and alike will be at home.

    • dianajc99 Says:

      maybe this will create more controversy in the general media. The worlds is well confined to the harder core gym fans but the oylmpics get big press
      I know here in the Bay Area the local papers and news cover the athletes that live and train here but compete for another country.

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      Why are you shocked? ITs quite common in many comps tries that wealthy parents buy their child a spot on an Olympic team. JUst happened in Belarus……

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      IS she stupid or is bailie Key stupid for not moving to Germany or some other country that would welcome her with open arms.personally I think a lot of the us girls could and should go compete elsewhere.

      • Cupquaked Says:

        It would just be another nationals just “technically” internationl competition. And think about it from a coaching standpoint, you use resources and time to cultivate so many talented gymnasts and then they go off and compete for other countries against your own. That would be annoying after awhile.

        I can understand girls who have dual-citizenship or parents from other countries and they compete for them. But people like Kylie bother me. Because, being really honest here, her parents BOUGHT her, her Olympics. She hardly earned it. It’s not like she was Ana Pavlova’d from the US. She was ‘t even an elite here…

      • Gymbee Says:

        Agreed. I don’t get going to compete for another country at all. Competing in the Olympics should be a matter of having pride in your country, competing with your country’s flag on your chest. I don’t get why Kylie wants to compete in the Olympics that bad. What can it possibly mean to her? If everyone fell and she won, would she get teary-eyed seeing the Belarussian flag go up? Of course she wouldn’t.

  77. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    In the end, Belgium and France also qualified for the Olympics. Brazil, Germany, Belgium and France get to go to Rio, with Australia and Switzerland as alternates (I didn’t know there were team alternates in case one team can’t go or is eliminated, but it seems they exist).

  78. Sainabou Nyang Says:

    Couldn’t agree more. To be honest I wasn’t to concerned about them qualifying as a team because I think they would have had a hard time advancing to team finals. By then every country would be at peak form. This team has been broken for some time. Constant injuries, low morale, lack of difficulty, and no mental toughness.

    Cata bless her for coming back but if theres a spot open it should go to Larissa someone who can possibly medal on floor, beam, and AA.

  79. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Test event’s apparatus final is about to begin. I have heard rumours that Cata isn’t going to compete, but I can’t confirm that yet. I hope she is ok after yesterday’s scary fall on vault.

  80. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    You can see events finals here: It’s only for USA, so I can’t see it. 😦 .

  81. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Chuso: average of 14.716. Dipa lands again her Produnova and has an average of 14.833.

    • Cupquaked Says:

      “Lands.” The video I saw, her feet barely hit before her butt. Technically landed but still not good or safe, really. I hope she improves it. I would hate to see her medal at the Olympics with that kind of vault or godforbid injure herself. It’s almost as bad as Maroney getting a silver after a fall.

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        I haven’t seen this vault, but the one in Podium Training was pretty good. I don’t think that she can land this vault very high, but she can do it pretty safely for what we have seen. She has better high and form than Peña in any case. I do think she has options.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        To me it looked like she was going for a 1.5 yurchenko.

      • Gymbee Says:

        I agree. I hate to see her get those scores when you need to play it in slow motion to see whether her feet hit the mat a nano second before her butt. Not pretty.

  82. dianajc99 Says:

    sounds like T&T think they can send whoever they want to the games.

  83. sanitynmotion Says:

    I can’t believe the former power-house Romania can’t even qualify a team to the Olympics. Such a fall from 2004. What does Nadia have to say about this?

  84. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Elizabeth Seitz won bars over Scheder with 15.133 (6.6). Scheder had 15.033 (6.4).

  85. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Full Gymnastic’s Twitter says that Cata published a note on Instagram saying that she will keep working for Euros. 🙂

  86. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Article with quotes from Belu and Bitang about Romania’s debacle:

  87. Rocío Martínez López Says:

    Sanne Wevers win beam title with a 14.800 (6.4). Flavia wins silver with a 14.733 (6.200) and Lieke Wevers got bronze 14.366 (5.7). No romanians in this final. Cata withdrew and I think Bullimar had scored enough to be there and she didn’t compete either, so she must have withdrawn as well.

  88. Ilanchik20 Says:

    Larissa absolutely deserve to go over Cata.

    But Larissa needs to regain her bars up to last year’s level to be an AA threat. If not, she just has beam and floor–the same events Cata could medal on. Larissa is somewhat inconsistent on beam and judges don’t seem to like her on floor (at least not as much as Cata) so it may get dicy between her and Cata. Larissa deserves to go but I don’t trust them to do the right thing.

  89. dianajc99 Says:

    Flavia just slayed it on FX.
    thats the kind of routine Reagan should have.

    • Gymbot Says:

      I prefer this view for floor routines, you can see that they are choreographed well for an arena. I thought the dance from Ana Perez and the Germans was also especially good in this final, but it’s a shame half of the field fell and the silver medalist went out of bounds with both feet

  90. Ilanchik20 Says:

    This totally random. I was just on snap. GD is snapping going to the mall and eating Cinnabon.

    Between Kylie going to Rio with a 50AA and GD likely going because she is GD, I just feel so bad for Bailie Key and alike.


    Sorry for a random post.

    • dianajc99 Says:

      I think i’m accidentally following her on twitter. she’s going crazy with the food pics.

    • Gymnast41 Says:

      Lol at least it looks like she’s in Ohio and not LA for the first time in two weeks…she definitely went to Graeters (a famous ice cream place in OH) yesterday and I was like waa…? Here you have simone in the gym with the entire city on lockdown due to bad weather. Sharp contrast

  91. dianajc99 Says:

    • Tortuga Says:

      What was the link suppose to be? It says the Facebook post is no longer available, which makes it’s more intriguing.

  92. gymbot Says:

    Belorussian Kylie Rei Dickson is at 50:30. It’s a shame she’ll show this at the Olympics when Romania will not be able to show the beam or floor routines of their better gymnasts.

    I was hoping the individual compilation might show Lieke Wever’s new floor routine, but it didn’t. If someone has a link to a video, please share.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Romania had a chance to prove themselves and didn’t. Kylie did her job . These Romanian gymnasts also could have medals at World’s last year to make this team and did not. Besides Catalina and Larisa there isn’t a single other Romanian gymnast with a shot at winning a medal at the Olympics. If you ask me Bulimar deserves a spot over Catalina because she didn’t just show up and expect to make an Olympic team after 3 years. Diana has been training the entire time same with countless other kids. Catalina might be a better gymnast but I am not sure she deserves a shot over ki ds that were competing the entire time based on one 6 beam routine that might make finals if she hits.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I love Ponor, but she shouldn’t have even made floor/beam finals in London. She made severe mistakes but the judges saved her for her name and reputation. She’s an amazing gymnast but if only one person can go, it should be Larissa.

        I wonder if Ponor will retire now or just keep training and hope for a spot to be given to her.

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        I have heard that Cata is going to hold on at least until the European Championships next May. I don’t think that anyone can expect for Cata to go to the Olympics before Larissa. Larissa is the obvious choice. But we have to take into account that Larissa is injuried now and, even if her injury seems minor, we don’t know if she will be healthy for the Olympics. I hope she will, but if Larissa can’t go, Cata is the most probable candidate. The Romanian Federation isn’t going to think about who deserves the spot the most or not if Larissa isn’t available. They are going to choose a person that can potentially bring a medal to at least atemperate this catastrophe. And the only one apart from Larissa that can bring a medal is Catalina. I think the choice is Larissa, but if she can’t go, they are going to send Cata (or send both Cata and Larissa if they can pull a wildcard’s stunt. I don’t think is possible, but who knows?).

      • Gymbot Says:

        It’s not that any of them need to win medals, but for the sake of broadcasting quality gymnastics at the Olympics. Dickson did her job, but she also gamed the qualifying system over many hard working gymnasts, and she’s but one example of the lackluster gymnastics to be performed in Rio

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        How do you know she isn’t hard working? She clearly trains. I am sorry I think this whole thing is just another witch hunt. Belarus has sucked for years, hell since Boginskaya and the girls from Belarus were no better than the ones the US sent over. Kylie was sent to do just what she did and she did it. Blame the system. I am 100% against gymnasts switching Countries and I don’t care what the reason is. People should be forced to stay where they are born and until they are I just don’t care.
        This is in general not specific to this case. I feel the same way about Chusovitnia. When she switched Countries she did it for the right reason but the country didn’t. They basically bought her by paying for her son’s medical. How is that any different then Kylie’s parents pretty much buying her shot ? Didn’t someone get screwed in Germany for Okasana to get a spot? Where’s the outrage for that?

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        I sort off agree. I’m sure she works hard. Most gymnasts do (well maybe except Gabby, jk or not). Anyways, I hate that she gets to go but she didn’t do anything illegal. Unethical, yes. So I guess I’m more annoyed at the syst–not her. NBC won’t give her any screen time so it really doesn’t matter.

        But it’s just so wrong that Kylie–who has zero relationship to Belarus and never even been there–gets to go. We may as well start building new countries and compete for them.

        Marissa Dick competing for Trinidad is not any better–she is not from there, doesn’t live or train there. On that note, Geddert retweeted a post from Marissa saying “…I may be wearing T&T but I’m Canadian at heart.” That, honestly is just as annoying.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        That Dick comment is just plain obnoxious. It’s the same with that idiot Canadian rhythmic that came to compete for the US because her father was from here and claimed she loved America til she got her Olympics (robbing a Ukranian competing under the US flag for years) Oksana never would have gone to Germany if she wasn’t given medical for her kid and while any parent would do that she was still paid off.

  93. dianajc99 Says:

    I think it was this one. I was bored went meme crazy

  94. Ilanchik20 Says:

    It’s obviously won’t happen but there is a petition going around to allow Cata to go to Rio.

  95. dianajc99 Says:

    This was an interesting read. Both the article and the comments. question–If half of team is on adderal wouldn’t the AD notice?
    of course this is penn state

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      All of this is old news. It’s been well known for years. Not sure why it’s taking so long for someone to complain. Also not sure how messed in the head you have to be to want to kill yourself as an adult because someone called you names and made you work through pain. Sounds to me like that girl had emotional issues before she got to school.

      It’s clear something has to change but being I knew how bad these coaches were and it’s now just coming to light has to be placed on not just the coaches but the people that hid the abuse so many others had to be subject to it. I know that sounds like blaming the victim but you can’t tell me every single girl over the last 10 years was as emotionally messed up as the girl who tried to kill herself that they couldn’t have lodged multiple complaints.

  96. Gym Obsessed Says:

    Thank you – I will also be pissed if Lari doesn’t get that spot. I feel for Ponor and Didi and Jurca but Lari is clearly the best gymnast. This whole thing makes me so mad – these stupid coaches and federation. Get a real bar coach, check out the code changes and adapt to the future. ARGH.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      What Gym Obsessed said.

    • dianajc99 Says:


      • gymtruthteller Says:

        lol I don’t know ask Alexandra Marinescu. It’s Romania they can’t be trusted to do the right thing.

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        Under the circumstance that cata has better medal potential. Larissa would be lucky to get a silver / bronze aa and a silver / bronze on floor. She almost always falls on beam at full difficulty in big competitions. Cata could medal, beam and floor also and is typically much more consistent. I’m sorry Larissa has one Olympic medal and has underperformed at worlds for three years.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        And Catalina had a 6 start value on beam with a middle 14 score. Not sure how that has a better chance than Larisa. Larisa earned the spot by competing for four years and willing Romania to medals, something none of her teammates have done at Worlds. I don’t understand how this is even a debate.

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        I think that only an injury from Larissa’s part would prevent her from being the chosen one. I agree with Exgymgurl that the medal potential would be the key, but I don’t think that Cata has a better medal potential than her. Larissa has a shot to an AA medal (if she has the same or better dificulty/performance than last year). Cata had 14.6 on beam in the Test Event. Larissa had 14.766 on that apparatus in the AA final last year. Cata had 14.300 on floor and Larissa had 14.475 on that event in last year’s AA final. Cata’s floor scores are ages away from the contenders to the medals in the floor finals (aka Simone, Aly, Afan, etc. who easily surpass the 15 mark) and Larissa has better scores than her right now. Taking this into account, there is no way that, in terms of medal potential, Cata can be chosen before Larissa. This said, if Larissa is injuried, Catalina is going for sure. So I don’t think that Catalina has better medal potential than Larissa in any of her key events at this point.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I agree. And remember world’s judges are way different than this test event judges were. Look at Bozo’s scores especially execution. He won a pommel horse medal for ***** sake.

  97. dianajc99 Says:

    I don’t speak Romanian

    • Gymnast41 Says:

      I heard there’s a rumor that she retired and it was televised today :/

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        your talking Ponor right?

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        There was a rumor Diana said she retired. She has since said its not true.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Until she is officially not going she sho I lf train but why she would train for next year makes little sense.

      • Rocío Martínez López Says:

        There is still Europeans next month. I think that if some of the girls like Didi are thinking of retiring, they are going to wait after the Europeans. They have a shot for medals there.

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