Gabby’s beam – missed at least 3 combos. Of course those will be counted knowing these stupid judges.
Her leaps are worse than in London, too. I wonder if that’s because she grew. She almost lands on the beam with her feet apart so that the leap is not completed – if that makes sense. Like she doesn’t get enough height on her leap jumps.
Maggie actually has way less leg seperations than Kocian but I am pretty sure kOCIAN HAS 6 TENTHS IN START VALUE. lAST YEAR IT WAS LIKE 6.0 OR 6.1 FOR mAGGIE AND 6.6 FOR kOCIAN. Sorry caps lock was left on.
You really think Maggie looked as good as Kocian on bars? I don’t really have an affinity toward either but I don’t think that’s true. Maggie looked weak in the core on her handstands and pirouettes and really labored in her swing. She has better toe point and tight legs, but the core is really obvious so I don’t think she could add more difficulty.
Kocian is a better bar worker, with greater difficulty. However, Maggie impressed me… she’s come a LONG way these past few years, really much further than anyone would ever have initially guessed, and I am super impressed. Although she’s not a personal fave, she’s won me over and improved her artistry and presentation bigtime. She deserves great things.
They just posted gabby’s bars routine she upgrades quite a bit. But yes Maggie looks super clean as far as bars goes…I’m surprised she isn’t going for the harder dismount. Playing it safe on all of her events it looks like, which in the end might help her in the long run
She was very slow on all her connections and had some trouble on the low bar. Should be interesting to see if she gets all the credit for that routine if she does it like that in competition. Bars is one event I hate. Adding a stupid foot to the bar gets way too many extra points and every routine looks the same
Maggie is not playing it safe, If anything she is being told to downgrade. Marta has control over everything and once again we get upgrades from the fave of Marta while someone else is forced to downgrade for them. How is that fair?
I commenting something on the other post and I totally agree about it not being fair on any level. Didn’t even realize that she downgrades basically all of her routines for this meet while gabby gets the upgrade. It just all makes so much sense now.
Douglas moved he in bar stalder and switched a “chow” for a “chow 1/2” for one more tenth in difficulty. But that’s it for bars
Maggie seems to have changed her beam a lot but it has he same sv around 5.9. At nationals she had he full-in and the tuck 1/2. Marta made her drop both elements for a side somi and a double puke dismount for -.4 in change. Now on beam she had added the Humphrey turn +.2 net and the wolf punch tuck for .1. So she is back around the same
It’s waaaay to early to be throwing your 100% out there. I’m going to stay positive and think Maggie is saving herself for later in the season. We already knew a fix would be in for Gabby anyway. Is it fair? No, but I never tune into Scam for a well balanced competition.
But my point is while I understand throwing it all is a questionable decision to some why is it that Gabby isn’t being told the same thing? It’s an OLYMPIC YEAR. If you can’t show your upgrades being consistent than prepare to be left behind.
I told myself months ago I am not letting this Olympic year bull shit by Marta get to me. It’s too stressful and in the end effects my life in no way at all. I’ll worry about stuff I can control and not stuff I cannot. Except for when it comes to baseball then I’ll freak out. 🙂
Oh yeah I’m with you. I think they want it to look like Gabby is so close to Simone and Maggie doesn’t stand a chance. But I’m going to TRY not to get mad till we get to nationals with no amanar or upgrades from Maggie. Gabby might burn out early pushing all this so early in the season.
I’m no expert but her difficulty looks the same as what she competed in team finals at worlds except the Amanar. I know she had a new dismount on beam and bars and the front with a half on beam that she took out for worlds. What am I missing?
Hey tortuga, that is what was taken out. She has now added some connections and the Humphrey turn and if she competes boh wolf turns in one routine, she should have the same d score from before Marta took out her big acrobatic skills
Thanks Gymbot! I couldn’t tell if she was really going to connect those wolf turns or if she just messed up the first a smidge and decided to correct it by doing another. A little code whoring eh? I suppose if Martha is going to try to hold her back on her bigger D skills then I say go for the code whoring. Every man for himself.
Gabby might need more time to get her upgrades going, but still. Marta allowing Gabby to upgrade but downgrading Maggie? The fix is in, and it will be in all year. This is just the beginning.
Come nationals, I wouldn’t be surprised if Marta tries to pull the same crap if Gabby doesn’t have an amanar by then. Marta can’t do this to Simone but it’s all about the fight for that second AA spot, and this time around they will be sure it goes to Gabby first.
Both of their vaults looked pretty crummy. Maggie had a slow DTY, and Gabby’s was very piked. I was expecting Amanars from both, though I imagine they’ve forced Maggie to downgrade to the DTY so as not to set herself apart from Gabby. Bars were pretty comparable; beam goes to Maggie, I think. Gabby apparently fell a bunch in podium training, but put together at least one routine that USAG can market to the Gabbystans. I like Maggie’s floor, though I wish they could clean up the tumbling a bit. No videos of Gabby’s floor to be seen…hmmm…
I don’t know about that. I think I have seen 3 outfits on her that make her look good and 2 of those were for awards shows i am pretty sure she didn’t dress herself. Hey, at least it’s 2 more decent looks than Nastia has ever had on her skinny ass.
Those bars scores are nuts! There’s no way now unless Gabby falls on beam. And what was up with the vault score? Ugh, I already knew it was fix but people at home are being brainwashed into thinking Maggie stands no chance when she’s capable of so much more.
Who would be on your team? Do you think a team of Simone, Gabby, Maggie, Aly, and Madison/Norah could work? Gabby can be great when she’s on, but she’s still too risk for me on BB, and Maggie/aly/simone are the best FX workers we have. Gabby won’t be the strongest on vault if Aly/Simone/Maggie have amanars and with her lack of block, I don’t see her getting her amanar back. So, she’s really only useful on UB in this team situation.
Ugh just finished watching. Could we have seen Ellie blacks floor instead of a close up of Donnell squinting at the score board?
Every year this meet makes me crazy. SCAM indeed. This was Maggie’s meet…but we all knew the fix was in.
My biggest peeve about gabby is her level 10 floor routines beating people like Maggie. FFS I hate double tucks at elite level. Also, there are two parts of her floor where she literally stands there for several moments and another where she literally lies on the floor. Why does this score even half as well as it does?! Maggie moved the entire time.
Reading these comments verifies a) Gabby will be going to Rio and b) Gabby will be given that AA spot. If I were Aly I’d train that second vault. She won’t have much of a chance to compete in the AA again.
Not even going to bother watching this competition, it just sounds way too frustrating. The Gabby favouritism, while not Gabby’s fault, just makes me so mad and I really don’t want her on the Rio team as a result.
Really curious to see how Maggie’s coaches deal with things this year. I suspect that they won’t rock the boat to ensure Maggie gets on the team in any capacity but I hope they are really advocating for her. I will be so sad if USAG continue to screw her over.
I hope Maggie’s coaching is facilitating this Marta crap but honestly since she is fairly new, as far too elites go, u doubt it.
I hope Maggie doesn’t get screwed but I feel like even if she makes it to Rio, Marta won’t let her do AA in Quals.
But I also wouldn’t be all too surprised if she ends up being an alternate. An AA alternate needs to be someone you can plug anywhere (that’s what it seems Marta goes for normally) and unfortunately the way Maggie been is being scored, it looks like she’s fit that better than Aly. Bailie too.
Some idiot posted on Twitter today that we don’t need Aly’s beam anymore because we got Gabby. LOL
I firmly believe Marta made Maggie skip her Amanar for Gabby and I don’t care if anyone says differently. It’s the only thing that makes sense. Why now all of a sudden would Maggie be having trouble and what good does it do her to not compete it? I told myself to just forget the shit Marta pulls but this is something she would do. She can’t be trusted and add that Simone was not sent to the Cup this year you know something is up.
I remember a blog I wrote last year about being stressed over what was gong on and this year that stress has just turned into me being bored. Marta’s games have finally made me reach the point I don’t care.
Kind of makes me wonder if they are trying to faze out Aly. I didn’t watch it only saw Gabby’s VT and bars and think I will follow your suit and just not bother. I am the worst blogger ever I jumped at the opportunity to go out with my nieces today to avoid this meet and it looks like I made the right decision. Looks good for Maggie that she would have won if she had her Amanar which she suspiciously all of a sudden wasn’t allowed to compete. As bad as Aly’s has been in the past she got to keep hers. Interesting huh…
Yeah even without Maggie’s nationals routines she would’ve been straight for beating GD even without her highest execution. Like you said, my concern right now is Aly competing with Maggie for a spot now and not GD. Basically Marta’s ploy is to reward Maggie for having such a great season last year but to reward GD for being the Olympic AA champion. And as messed up as this is, this is what the media would want to see. The Olympic champion still “on top” (bunch of BS), and the newcomer “rock” of the team (Maggie) and of course the queen, simone. After what I saw with this meet, I just have to hope that Aly comes out with a vengeance after worlds and kills it, and I have the utmost belief she will do it. Maggie needs to upgrade with everything she’s capable of doing consistently (despite Marta’s claims) and we might just see her get the results she deserves. But regardless, I don’t think anything could happen at this point getting GD off of this Olympic team…unless Laurie, ragan, or Norah absolutely kills it or bailie suddenly pulls a 2012 GD, but realistically I don’t see any of this happening…sigh.
Maggie needs her amanar. Without it, things will be very iffy, especially if Aly has one and Gabby doesn’t.
I think Aly will come strong. She is usually better when she is not on top. I also think Mihai is pacing her as I’m sure he learned from Asac’s experience.
But without an amanar, Maggie, Bailie, Laurie and Jaz will be on a similar level.
My hope is that Gabby places 3rd AA and then 4th bars (Kocian, Locklear and Norah beating her). That’s kind of possible, right? In that scenario, Marta will have some explaining to do to get her on a team lol.
I agree with you guys. I’m hoping that they are easing Maggie back into her full routines and do not want her to get injured or peak too early in the season and the amanar will come back in the summer. If Aly and Maggie both get their amanars back and Aly truly has upgraded her bars, we may see them 2nd and 3rd in the all-around? At least, that’s what I will hope for. And yes, Madison, Ashton, and Norah all have the capability of being higher than GD on bars…but, this meet does show that she is capable of hitting when it counts…at least this time.
Norah has pretty good grip swing. The last time she competed she had s 5.7 D but she was a junior then. She has shown some mixed grip upgrades so I think she’ll have a significantly higher D and her execution is way better than Gabby. From the upgrades that’s been flowing around, she has very Chinese bars, haha. Plus Norah has a big dismount–the same one Shawn did.
My hope is that Gabby places 4th on bars, haha. Preferably behind Norah. That would be justice lol
Frig man. I hate that GD blows in rehearsals, walks through her routines in training, and then can go out there and be that solid. This means she deserves to be on the team competing like that, and I don’t want that. I would be so happy with a GD-less Olympic team, and she’s making it very hard for my wish to come true.
And, maybe because I harbor these feelings, whenever she opens her mouth no matter what she says, I basically want to grind my teeth. She’s so full of herself and thinks everyone loves her. Maybe all the eleven year olds at this meet did, but I can’t stand her interviews.
I was impressed by Maggie. She has come so far over the years. I really enjoyed her floor. Girl is doing more than expected and better than I would have predicted for her as an athlete. She doesn’t have star power, but she’s clean and consistent.
It’s going to be verrrrrrrry interesting to see what they do with AAers and specialists… a couple very deserving peeps are gonna be in the dust.
Also, NBC really is the No Brains Channel as Vanessa Atler dubbed them years ago. I always forget how mad I get about the coverage. A couple years ago they didn’t show a single routine of the bronze medalist. Today, one routine of Ellie Black’s and come the conclusion of the competition, don’t even show final results or mention the Canadian winning bronze. Look beyond yourselves, guys… I know that’s not your thing but seriously, in the name of sportsmanship.
You are right and that’s what kills me. Gabby slacks in training. Marta thinks Gabby slacks in training. So Marta gives her an assignment to motivate her to be in shape. Like, really? Ugh.
I think she does as well as she does is because she never over exerts herself in training like others. I don’t know how she has become consistent but ugh. I guess my only hope is that she gets out scored on bars lol
IMO Marta was forced to give Gabby the Am Cup and leave Simone at home. There is no reason Marta needs Simone not to be the face of the sport she has to fall 3 times to lose that AA.What motive is there for making Gabby the face of the sport when she has no shot at beating Simone. This sounds like Steve to me.
You know what? It drives me crazy too. That everybody else has to prove themselves every freaking day but Gabby gets to slack and be lazy and save her body because she knows Marta will back her up. Ithink Marta bitches about Gabby slacking during training just for the drama.
Marta is being forced to take her you can tell by how she has to give her these competitions like Am Cup yet she still talks about how lazy she is. Steve Penny is 70% to blame for all of this and that is probably why Marta is retiring. Even she is fed up.lol Simone not being at the scam cup during an Olympic years makes no sense.
Usa gym knows this code is so messed up that the can cheat in favor of whom they want to win and the majority of people won’t be able to figure it out. That blogger needs to send the break down to usa gym and ask them if they cheated on purpose or they are so damn inept they don’t know how to do their job. Worded just like I worded it 😉