Raisman Returns

Sorry had a busy Monday and didn’t get online.

I will let you know what I think when I watch it.

34 Responses to “Raisman Returns”

  1. sainabou nyang Says:

    Do you think she should continue training AA?

    I personally think she should focus on Floor and beam. Alys vaulting has always been iffy especially her Amanar.

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      she has to train aa. seriously even if the other two are not as good marta likes to rely on you in a pinch. People have said the same about kyla yet marta used her on all four in TF including vault and floor without her amanar, without her full difficulty anywhere. Skinner and Biles were both not used on all four. marta values AA consistency. If someone had not been able to go on bars or vault Aly could have stepped in and we still would have had gold in London. Same with Kyla. With only five people, Marta wants four solid AA that are top 3 on two events and can fill in on the other two. Kyla was not really an event specialist in London she was the fourth AA, and the only event specialist was mckayla maroney. It pushes your stock MUCH higher to be an AA gymnast, unless you have a 17 SV on bars and hit it consistently. People pick on Kyla and her lack of difficulty yet she has two more AA world medals than Aly Raisman does. So yes, she needs to train AA or shes bound to get “sacramoned” off the team

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      DEF AA because having a back up really helps her chances.

  2. Exgymgurl Says:

    because im happy
    but seriously I hate this because it makes me love aly even more. shes so real and the flat monotone arrogant preprogrammed snotiness is gone.

  3. JAS4 Says:

    I saw this the other day and it looked like her swing and flexed feet on bars have improved some.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Skills and combinations always look better individually vs a full routine. Aly’s UB during 2012 looked better when we would see skills vs her whole routine.

      • JAS4 Says:

        I still wonder if she is training a second vault. I think that if she can become a solid AA again with good bb/fx that would help her chances so she doesn’t necessarily need a second vt but maybe Mihai is trying to maximize her chances so Aly is less likely to be left of the team for a specialist if she could potentially medal on three events. If Asac had upgraded at least one of her vaults and had a decent usable floor it would have been hard for Marta to justify leaving her home. If Aly is training a second vt then maybe they are just trying to make sure the same thing doesn’t happen to Aly.

      • gymbot Says:

        A second vault isn’t as important as getting the amanar. This year, there will be more top AA gymnasts competing for spots on the team than last year: Biles, Skinner, Ross, Dennis, Key, and Gowey (and Douglas?). In addition to that, there are a good number of specialists with TF/EF worthy routines in Maroney and Locklear types.

        Raisman will need to earn as many top 3 (TF) or 4 (TQ) spots as possible to justify being on the team. That should prove to be quite difficult. Key, Gowey and Biles have strong beam sets, Biles, Key, Skinner have strong floor sets. However, all of these gymnasts are weaker on bars making a gymnast like 2013 Ross, Dennis and Douglas more appealing than taking another BB/FX gymnast with a good VT.

        Still, Marta has more gymnasts to break so maybe someone sturdy like Raisman has the best chance.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        People insisted she had no shot making the team in 2012 too and she did. Aly y needs to be her consistent self and Marta already likes her and will consider her. . I am sick of Gladys name being mention d. Talk to me when she stands up a competition.

      • gymbot Says:

        I didn’t insist that she would not make the team, the point is that she’ll need to have top scores on multiple events to be picked over another competitive AA gymnast – of which there are many this year. Her energies are not as well spent working on a second vault, so much as a huge team final worthy vault.

  4. gymbot Says:

    She already has impressive difficulty based on what’s shown. She has a DTY, but throws amanars into the pit.

    On bars, she rearranged some of her skills – if she gets back her stalder full + tkatchev combination and a D dismount, she’ll have 5.9

    On beam, all she needs is a C dance element and a spin to have 6.5.

    On floor, she has a 5.7 counting three C dance elements (not shown), 3/2 indirect to double tuck, dos santos, the triple full and a double pike. Here she is working on the most upgrades if she can add leaps out of some of her passes, work in the DLO or 3/2 indirect to double arabian +/- front tuck/layout, and acquire the two D leaps she used to have. She could easily get as high as Skinner and Biles on floor by the end of year.

  5. Ilanchik20 Says:

    An update on Gabby:


    Ugh. I’ve always loved Aly and was so happy to see her success in London, especially with the whole Jor vs. Gabby debacle, but now I’m that much more rooting for Aly!

    • tulip Says:

      What I took from this article is that Natalie is still controlling the purse strings and living off Gabby. She makes it very clear that “we” couldn’t come to business agreements that “we” found fair.

      I was hoping that when Gabby turned 18, she would gain access to her accounts and see that Moms is helping her fat self to her daughters earnings. I’m surprised there’s any left.

      And considering Fatalie filed bankruptcy before London and discharged her financial obligations to Excalibur, she cannot do that again for another 6 years or so. If Chow were to pursue, Grifter mom couldn’t declare again.

      This club that took her will be sorry they did, I just sense it. Gabby’s track record is that of burned bridges.

  6. Exgymgurl Says:

    stupid san jose gets the trials again. and marta sent the boys to st louis for their own trials.

  7. Ilanchik20 Says:

    Oh just saw this: 2016 trials for women will be in San Jose, CA. Men’s are in St. Louis. Ugh this is on the side of the country from me but I still want to go.



    • gymtruthteller Says:

      ST Louis was a rumor but separate trials? WTF? I won’t be going.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      I read it wrong. ST Louis gets womens Nationals?

      WTF are they doing? Mens Nationals and the classic’s together and separate from the Women’s nationals?

      I might go to classics but I won’t be staying for the men. Hotels for 150 plus a night to see that garbage don’t think so.

  8. Exgymgurl Says:

    oh and martas trials are lessthan a month from the start of the olympics so the question is does she get a death camp in there or does the team go from san jose to huntsville for two weeks then off to rio?

    • Ilanchik20 Says:

      Prob no death camp and maybe they’ll announce the team on TV again, which I guess is good.

      But isn’t it weird that men’s and women’s trials are not only on diff dates but also in diff cities. I guess Marta does as she wants.

    • Case Says:

      Marta will get at least a three day mini death camp in there I bet.

  9. Exgymgurl Says:


    • Case Says:

      I don’t even know where to begin commenting on the content of that story, but the fact Grandma had to retire and go to Iowa so Big Nat and her three adult children wouldn’t have to leave the L.A. home Gabby’s money bought them is priceless.

    • gymbot Says:

      The elements she showed in the video did not look as polished either. A front aerial to wobble, two shaoposh variations to dead hang. She does look cut though.

      I wonder if she still has the healy turn or the ling she was working on with Chow.

    • Melanie Says:

      Ugh, I vomited in my mouth so many times during that article. She’s best friends with Nia Dennis? I doubt it. She’s such a smart little girl that she outwitted Chow? Um, no, she’ll be lucky to finish high school.

      What a wonderful contrast between the comebacks of Aly and Gabby. I’m rooting that much more for Aly.

      • Ilanchik20 Says:

        Aly’s skills looked so much more polished in her update video. But she is also so much more modest and doesn’t claim she is ready to best everyone! I’m really excited for her return.

        It’s interesting that Aly’s video was filmed by Scott and released by USAG vs. Gabby’s update is by ESPN. Shouldn’t they both have gotten the same USAG release? Wonder if Marta didn’t feel Gabby’s progress justified a trip by Scott there yet. I know, speculating, but I’m okay with that theory lol

      • Melanie Says:

        Yes, that is interesting. I can’t believe that this article is already trying to drum up a rivalry between Gabby and Simone. Obviously, anyone who is knowledgeable on the sport knows there’s no contest there.

        I’m surprised at how much detail they covered with the whole Chow situation. It is so appalling that she released all of those announcements back in April about their reunion if she was fully aware that they were clashing on business issues.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Details is not the right word. HER version of the truth which means BS. She still owed Chow when she left him after the Olympics and that was never paid as of a month or 2 ago.

      • Melanie Says:

        I mean that, like with Excalibur, Gabby simply does not know the line to draw when it comes to talking to the media. She is remarkably bad at keeping her mouth shut and instead tries to “tell her side of the story” which just makes everyone hate her. She always comes across as petty.

      • onelifeonejourneyonealex Says:

        If she has to come back (lord help us), I ask one thing…
        Her music and Hannah Whelan’s were like nails on a chalkboard to me by the end of the quad.

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        its normal for USAG to want to get two differnet sports media outlets to cover their gymnastics. Aly more appeals to the usag affluent white parents that pay club dues and buy tickets to competitions, simone does as well because they are humble sweet and polished. its more of an economic relatability than a racial divide.

        gabby has street appeal to the same people that watch espn and basketball and nfl. her mom with her ridiculous wig is proof. Shes still with the wendy williams crowd. To her credit gabbys dream and self belief worked for her in 2012. most NFL athletes and NBA athletes have the same self belief.

        If you want to broaden the appeal of gymnastics you need the gabbys and the llomincia halls and the noel couchs doing floor to star wars and tribal music.

        right now, gabby had a moment and one performance that was better than everyone else two and a half years ago. Simone has a track record of performances that are dominating.

        gabby doesnt get what Marta wants, Aly gets it. Simone gets it. Kyla gets it. Maybe Skinner gets what she needs to do to improve. She didnt get hammered as much as I thought she would. Marta values consistency over time. Not one trick ponies. Gabby doesnt have a track record of harnessing her nerves. She has a track record of falling in event finals.

  10. Ilanchik20 Says:

    I’m actually surprised Aly is wearing something so open but she looks great. She is def well conditioned lol

    Love getting dressed up ✨

    A photo posted by Alexandra Raisman (@alyraisman) on

    #twinning with my aunt. Yaaaaaaaas.

    A photo posted by Alexandra Raisman (@alyraisman) on

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