While I was sleeping : The College gym edition.

Not gym related but if you know me you know why I loved it:)


Ling Jie Interview. One of my all time fave Chinese gymnasts. I agree with her on the medal removal being unfair but the only way to discourage these types of things if you don’t penalize.

Foam blocks aren’t safe? You would think that gym makers could find something else to use?

The Clemmer School of Gymnastics has been around since 1935 and it will be closing. You see someone offered them a lot of money to buy the building and who can blame them for selling it right? I bet we find out later that Walmart bought the place out so it can pay its workers 8 dollars an hour and make billions. If you read the article and are a College basketball fan you might recognize the name of their most famous alumni. (Okay its a slow gym day I will tell you. It’s Mike Krzyzewski)

Ashley Wagner won the Trophee Bompard Beating no one of merit. Chan won the men’s competition because he showed up. JUST KIDDING. Not sure how he did but he won.

Bridget Sloan does her own version of Cribs. Florida style.

Talia Chiarelli on beam at the Michigan intrasquad thing. More videos of the “meet” practice or whatever it is. They only showed her on beam and vault and she looked pretty good to me.

LSU IntraSquad

Stanford in Training.

Florida also had an intrasquad.




84 Responses to “While I was sleeping : The College gym edition.”

  1. Exgymgurl Says:

    Stanford video is wierd.

  2. Akshay Says:

    Word on the street is that Aliya is going to compete at the World Cup? Good god give the girl a break.

    • Karlie Says:

      Apparently she’s going to Stuttgart…poor kid. Come on, Mother Russia. Show some sign that you care about your future…

  3. GymMom Says:

    Shawn is promoting the Nike Fuel Band. Again…poor spokesperson. Is this the end result of using the fuel band? She posted another photo after her workout but she only showed her eye. Who are the dupes out there paying hundreds of dollars for the fuel bands?

    Salute to our heroes…. Was an honor to meet them today #GoDores

    A post shared by Shawn Johnson East (@shawnjohnson) on

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      It is weird the only photos she posts of herself in workout gear are from her comeback period – those Nike photos that showed her body off when she was training as an elite.

  4. nero Says:

    Be still my heart. Looks like Jordyn is super serious as of right now. I really really hope she sticks with it, I can definitley see a spot for her on next years team. After that it gets a little dicey but you never know!

    Front aerial, side aeriel, switch leap, back pike.

    • uglyfatkid Says:

      Hell ya! Thanks for posting Nero!

      Go get ’em Jo!!! This coaching change may have been a Godsend for her.

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      She looks really really fit, like Aly is starting to. Thats impressive

    • biyatch Says:

      Hopefully its just the timing of the photo but that switch leap is looking a little Skinner-esque (in that it appears to be about 55*)

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      The really good thing here is that it doesn’t look like she’s working out just to “stay fit” for rec purposes. She’s actually doing new skills/combos. Oh man I hope we see her compete next year, that would be a trip. With a different coach too. It will be cool to see how it all goes down. I think it might have been a really wise move after all. AND she’s showing how it’s possible to switch coaches late in your career and STILL succeed.

  5. H Says:

    Stanford – impressive bar work … or what?

  6. Exgymgurl Says:

    I think Florida looks a helluva a lot more fit than anyone else. That is all. Sloan is almost Marta thin and Kytra also…

  7. nero Says:

    Ummmmm can we talk about THIS. If she ever competed this it would have to be like a J or K rating in the code lol, absolutely insane. If Simone stays healthy how in the world will anyone be able to beat her?

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      Ya wow. She has loads of difficulty. She might be unbeatable there but there’s always the mental aspect of it too. Also like I’ve said before this girl is bound to get a growth spurt.

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        By X-ray they should be able to tell how much more growth plate she has and at 16 force it now instead of in 2015

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Yikes how do you force that?

    • Karlie Says:

      Sorry, my internet sucks. Is it a double-double off beam? If so…INSANE.

      And you can’t exactly “force” a growth spurt but if she took a few months off I bet she’d grow quickly. The way physiology works, gymnasts have delayed growth likely because they work so hard that their bodies don’t have enough extra energy to devote to growth. Taking a few months off would allow that to change. That’s why do many gymnasts go through growth spurts when they get injured, or take time off – look at Vika, or Finnegan, or Kyla, who took only a month or two off after the Olympics. Izbasa grew a ton when she tore her achilles too.

  8. Exgymgurl Says:

    A boost of the correct hormones.

  9. Exgymgurl Says:

    An “injury” that allows for an eight week lapse in full training…..

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      That’s creepy to me but I get it. She just looks so “squat” to me like she’s definitely not done growing. I almost think she might benefit a bit from it too with her lines. But we’ll see. I totally could be wrong.

  10. Catherine Says:

    China are introducing a bonus system. Deets (I actually hate that word..) on the blog. Essentially, they are aiming for mini Biles. Somewhat unrealistic to say the least but I’m hopeful in the long term.

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      Maybe using gymnasts over age 10 that can actually block on vault and tumble, and maybe the Chinese can cycle their gymnasts differently so they dont injure out of senior competition at 15.

      • Case Says:

        Lol, exgymgurl.

      • Catherine Says:

        Shang Chunsong grew up malnourished in an extremely poor environment. That’s what happens to their frames. She is in too high a grade in school that it would be impossible for her to be in, were she underage. Especially having an elite gymnastics career to contend with.

        Unless you’re arguing Yao Jinnan was 12 in 2011? Or perhaps Huang Huidan was 9 doing a very difficult routine in the 2009 National Games?

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I don’t think that the entire team in 2008 was 16…I think He Kexin and maybe another one or two were under the legal age limit for sure. China cheats, we all know that. They justify it by saying “it’s for the good of the Country” because that is how they are programmed.

        As for Shang Chunsong, she definitely looks malnourished but so do most of the rest of them. They have that “way too frail” look. The only one I can think of at the top of my head that wasn’t like that was Chung Fe – was she from a province or whatever that allowed meat? Because she was much healthier looking. Even the girl that just retired that had that pretty floor routine that GTT likes (can’t remember her name to save my life) looked more nourished.

      • Akshay Says:

        Sanity are you referring to Jiang yuyuan? She’s the one who had that awesome floor who gtt likes. Completely robbed in Beijing in favor of Nastia. Gotta love Nellie Kim.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        YES her! Super robbed. I can never remember her name. To me she was the “pretty one.”

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        Bai Chun Ye… 1999 was she age eligible? And Umm… Ever hear of jocks getting fake good grades in the US? Yeah happens all over Texas. You can have 10th graders taking 5th grade level classes, so if its that easily fudged in America Im sure the actual “content” of grade level classes in China could be fudged you think???

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        The point is you have to prove they cheated or shut up about it. It makes Marta look petty and stupid to whine about something she thinks when she can’t prove it. Put up or shut up.

      • nero Says:

        I’m just going to jump in here and say that if Shang Chunsong truly is almost 18 years old then please FOR THE LOVE OF GOD coaches DON’T give the girl a floor routine fit for a 10 year old. That whole routine screamed ‘child’ to me, the music and the choreography.

        Can you see Jordyn or Aly or Aliya performing that routine?? Give the girl something mature and teach her how to perform. I don’t mean plaster a fake smile on her face but more in an Aliya and Ponor performance. The girl looks like she’s on her 8th hour of training at the gym while competing and it made me a little uncomfortable. I hope as she gets more international experience she’ll be able to look more relaxed, like she’s enjoying performing.

      • Catherine Says:

        So China is America now? The argument that China’a gymnasts are underage is laughable, especially when ‘all’ is used. Yes, it is perfectly plausible that they would be THAT unlucky with birth years. Sure.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I am as big of a defender of China as you will find out there but because they cheated in the recent past people are going to question it. They honestly should have been suspended 3 years like North Korea was for the most recent 2000 gymnasts but I agree with you on one thing. You can’t just accuse them of cheating every time they beat you because it makes Marta look like an idiot. If they can’t find the proof its over and they need to just shut up and move on.

        Marta needs to go in general for so many reasons and the hypocrisy of her existence is just one of 800 reasons I could probably come up with

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I actually feel like they need to eliminate the age rule altogether. If you’re the best, you should be able to compete no matter what age you are. I understand the argument that the age rule make it “safer” for gymnasts from a practice standpoint (they’re not being pushed as much by coaches), but I really don’t believe that (they’re being pushed) – I mean these girls work out all day every day – you are trying to tell me that they aren’t being pushed? Plus it’s a known fact that you need to learn the skills to use in competition while you are still lithe/young/pre-pubescent because it’s very hard to learn new skills after puberty and growth. I mean, I’m not saying it’s not possible, but it’s really hard. There’s a thing to be said about muscle memory.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I think we need an age limit but 16 is too old. It should be 14

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        That’s fine. I’ve really only seen 14 and 15 year olds get screwed, not 12 year olds.

        I mean Shannon Miller wouldn’t have been able to compete in the 1992 Olympics if the age rule applied back then (at 16)…I’m sure this could go for many athletes but if someone who literally deserved that gold medal would have otherwise not been able to even compete in the first place given an age rule that’s just wrong.

        Although for the 1998 Olympics they should have had it for figure skating, at age 18 minimum (lol). Just that year though, not any other year. lol.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I definitely think China has cheated in the past, and I definitely believe they cheated in Beijing. It’s just their way. They will do what it takes to win “for their country” and especially when their country is hosting the Olympics. Look how far they went to try and impress everyone during that Olympics. That whole fake fireworks fiasco, among other things.

        I also think they cheat in the sport of swimming too, but I don’t need to go there (when a woman can swim as fast as a man in the 200 IM at the Olympic caliber, something is happening and it’s not legal).

        I don’t know about “now” if China is cheating – don’t really see the point since it’s in the early part of the cycle. I believe Shang is the age they say she is. There’s no point in moving her to senior early otherwise.

      • Catherine Says:

        So has Romania, North Korea, and the USSR, all more than once. Now only China and North Korea are able to do it if they wanted to, you may be sure other countries would if they could. That is why Marta’s comments were amusing. Because none of her Romanians were underage…sure.

        The point is, China’s gymnasts can’t be discussed without some scathing comment about age? That is ridiculous. No wonder it’s hard to find rational conversation about them outside of secret groups.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I agree there. It’s not just China. I’m sure if the US were communist Marta would be cheating even today. Marta’s a tool.

      • Akshay Says:

        Sanity, we need to hope that China didn’t cheat in Beijing — at least hope He Kexin was not underage. Think about what would happen if they got proof that she was.

        They would strip China of the gold medal from TF and He of her UB Gold Medal. That would mean Nastia would get two more gold medals, including the UB one. I could not stand it if Nastia gets gold after all her whining and complaining, and don’t even get me started on her overrated form on bars.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Don’t even say that out loud. If it ever happens I am done with gymnastics

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I agree there but I don’t think you have to worry. I have this conspiracy that it was known China cheated in Beijing, but the powers that be chose to ignore it for the sake that they were the host country.

        I also think it odd that many years after the 2000 games, they all of a sudden figured out that China cheated. My suspicion is that maybe this was tit for tat – “hey, we’ll ignore 2008 if you admit to 2000…that way the US won’t look like such a cluster in 2000 and you get to keep all of your accolades for 2008…and oh by the way thanks for spending all that money hosting this thing.”

        So I think China is OK on that note. And no matter what, even if China were stripped from their Beijing accolades by then nobody will remember Nastia anyway (it’ll probably be like 2020), and even so – there’s a huge difference b/t standing on the podium AFTER the event to being handed the award much later behind the curtains. Like who cares after that. It’s all about being in the moment and that moment has come and passed.

      • Akshay Says:

        You do bring up a great point about the moment having passed. Definitely true. I just think it would be a travesty if Nastia won gold on Uneven Bars with that form.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        You know what I looked at that all over again (the Beijing UB competition) and I really felt like Nastia didn’t even deserve bronze. Seriously.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I agree. Tweddle should have been ahead of her,

  11. Akshay Says:

    Gabby’s wikipedia page currently lists Spanny Tampson as one of her parents.. what even.

  12. biyatch Says:

    Apparently Aly was working out at the Stanford gymnastics facility while she was on their campus for a speaking appearance. She’s scheduled to go to David Ortiz’s golf tourney in the DR again this year, I wonder what, if anything she plans to do about training while down there.

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      If I were her I’d just spend the day in the DR and then fly back to Florida to train as fast as I could. Or she could run on the beach. 🙂

  13. Exgymgurl Says:

    Worthy of its own blog. Gymcastic podcast interview with Terin Humphrey AMAZING

  14. Exgymgurl Says:

    She talks about how pissed she was that Chellsie was brought from pan ams to replace her in 2003 and she only got back on the team because of the injuries. She talks ASac not making the olympics in 2012, Chellsies petition, courtneymccool in 2004

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Thanks. What does she say about Alicia and Chellsie’s petition. Any specifics?

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      Ooooh please spill 🙂 I would like to know that.

      Why was she pissed Memmel was brought in in 2003? Didn’t Memmel like save the day or am I thinking the wrong competition?

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Terin is a gymnast you appreciate more when watching her in person. Finnegan is the same way. Must be the gym.

        It says everything that they brought in Chellsie to replace a gymnast when that gymnast wasn’t hurt or sick. That just means she should have been named to the team earlier.

    • gymnerd Says:

      What did she say about McCool? In the earlier interview, it didn’t sound like she & Courtney were exactly BFF’s.

  15. mimi Says:

    for anyone who hasn’t listened, gymcastic also has a (less exciting) episode with katelyn ohashi: http://gymcastic.com/61-katelyn-ohashi-clears-the-air/#.Uo9h62SSCNo

    summary – says she had a back injury (saw multiple doctors about it, something about her spine not being stable, says it’s complicated) just before or around scam then shoulder surgery and a break to rest up for the other shoulder. doesn’t outright admit to not training but says she still went to the gym, sounds like she was only lightly conditioning maybe.

    awkwardly pauses when asked about valeri, she is reluctant to say valeri is no longer coaching her, but that hot (in my eyes) laurent guy is now coaching her (madison kocian’s coach). says he is more patient than valeri and doesn’t bother her when stuff bothers her but ‘equally good’ coaching (diplomatic much). avoids answering where she is training elite or level 10 and says she doesn’t really train with the other girls and isn’t on a proper training schedule.

    other stuff – credits learning a lot of her beam skills from al and says her bars were ‘awful’ before valeri. says she has a love/hate relationship with gymnastics. likes normal high school unsurprisingly. visited UCLA and OU but still wants UCLA and has a fan girl moment, says one of the girls there will ‘teach her how to dance’ haha.

    she comes across as fun and good-natured. quite endearing!

    • Dee Says:

      i’m listening to it now. i hate podcasts. she really had a lot of injuries in a short amount of time, it seems.

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        Terin said McCool getting a lot of attention for being named after trials fueled her to work even harder. She says she didnt say much to mccool when she messed up in prelims. then She said mccool was too young / inexperienced and didnt handle pressure well. Apparently a huge fight ensued about being named in 2012. I wonder who got the spot that apparently someone wanted her to have. It almost sounded like a grudge against Chellsie for 2003 when she said of 2012 rules are rules……

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Can you be a little more specific? A huge fight about 2012? What does that mean. Who’s spot was in jeopardy? Who got the spot apparently someone wanted her to have” ? What does that mean. Sorry I am just not understanding. Memmel wasn’t even in play in 2012

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        What do you mean a fight about being named in 2012? Did you mean 2008? I’m confused.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I am confused too. Please don’t make me listen to this podcast for answers.lol

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Ditto that.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        The last part confuses me too. Is she saying they wanted someone else for Chellsie’s spot in 2008? In 2003 what did Chellsie do but kick ass and take names after the fact.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Terin says Marta likes her because she gives her opinion and everyone else sits back and tells her what she wants to hear.

        She was scared of Al Fong at first (she sounds like she is 10) she was used to women coaches. Al is a go get her. His wife is the artistic but they match well together. When asked about Al and his past how did it effect her family? Her family never talked about it. She thinks Al had nothing to do with the deaths. Even though people blamed him. She doesn’t believe he had anything to do with it.

        When she was 12 she became serious with gymnastics. Al told her to train more and it was a possibility she could go to the Olympics. Every gymnast goes through the period where they want to quit. She wasn’t pushed that way. Dad talked to her about regrets he had. It kept her going.

        ON CAMPS: Camos started when she became elite. Training different today. Cabins are different It has made her who she is today.

        Marta was scary when she first went to camps. She wanted to impress her. All gymnasts want to get her attention. Marta is an amazing lady. Doesn’t take anything from anyone. She is opinionated but wouldn’t change her.

        Says she was shy at first. College helped her get used to it. She tried to focus on herself.

        This sucks. I figured out what annoys me about this show. They are all so phony. The audio quality sucks.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        On being a athlete rep: Didn’t know about it. Was sent an e-mail and asked to do it. Ran against Nastia, thought she wouldn’t get it. She was alternate so she became rep. Usually you can share responcibility, took job on all by herself. Will find out today if she gets job for next 6 years.

        On process: A lot of people think Marta makes all decisions. Not like that. They travel to every selection camp, every meet in US and we kind of look at progress , give opinion. Most of time the same , sometimes a glitch. They work it out. A combined effort.

        Asked about Brenna decisions, whose was it” She didn’t go to worlds, she didn’t know. Brenna could have been inconsistent. Marta makes best decisions, she trusts her 100% (BULL shit answer Terin)

        If Terin has power she would go back to the 10 system. How is public going to get code if she as an Olympic gymnast doesn’t get it.

        Process on team selection. Does she like it: Team selection is where it should be. Its worked last few years, they are doing something right.

        On her new role: Does she tell girls to do College. ” She doesn’t tell them what to do. She gives them her point and they take it for what its worth

        On being outside the village: Alternates should be able to train with team. Says it will help push gymnasts

        : Picked criminal justice in College because she thought it would be easy. She loves it and could not imagine doing anything else. Was nervous on joining force. Beat them all physically. It was fine. They go through hell day, they try to get you to quit and at the end she was the only one standing. Wasn’t sure she should say that. She’s a patrol officer.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        A leotard discussion: If she liked the leotards she wore. Says she is an honest person. Is either hit or miss.


        One major disagreement on selection committee: Basically it was about Alicia, a lot of people wanted her on the team. She very well could have been on team and tehy still would have been amazing. A Few factors why they didn’t pick her. Doesn’t say what they were.It was hard for her because she used to train with Chellsie and Alicia.

        ON Chellsie, how she felt ” 100% Supports Marta and Steve. It was hard for her. Chellsie was an awesome competitor. She knew how hard she trained. She needed more time and would have been up there. We all have to follow the same rules (except Nastia apparently) No giggling for this question. She sounds 10 giggling with every other question

        Hardest skill, a Shaposh. She hated it. Al made her do it. Sweaty feet discussion. (why?) She had sweat surgery to cut her glands.

        She worked a lot on her toe point. Has knobby knee’s. They worked hard to fix her form.

        Terin has no regrets. She worked hard. Family sacrificed, she sacrificed. End result was what she wanted. She’s had an amazing life.

        NBC and USA-Gym are different. They have no control over NBC. Marta would appreciate never being on TV (LIAR)

        I think I am done. The rest of this discussion is nonsense.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        On Mccool: Was awesome for her to have a training buddy and push her to do better. They were rivals and didn’t get along sometimes. She says she helped her with her success.

        28.02- Stressful in 2003 worlds. Her tone changes when she talks about Chellsie being flown in. All the injuries gave her a chance to compete. Was hard to train alone, a different experience.

        How she stayed focus from 2003 to 2004. Whoever wins worlds usually wins the Olympics. More Marta ass kissing. She worked harder and did more numbers then anyone else. Wanted to make sure she wasn’t kicked off the team like she was in 2003.

        About mccool and Patterson being named to team. It was hard. Was happy for Courtney, both were going to be at the Olympics (says Carly won in 2003, didn’t happen Terin) She sounds bitter that Courtney got all the attention. She was at the gym longer then Courtney and it was hard to train during that time.

        On McCool messing up in prelims: She laughs, gym a brtual sport. Courtney was an amazing gymnast, was young, not enough experience. Mcool was home sick. She cheered everyone on and there was nothing she could say to her. She laughs, didn’t think she said anything to her. Some babble about gymnastics always happening on her b-day.

        On Mohini and Annia being older on team : They trained smarter, less numbers. were done before others. It was awesome to have older women to guide. ( Um yea whatever Terin. Rumor was you all fought and were jealous of Pattersons success)

        On College: She loved it, thought it would be a culture shock (hickville) but they sent a private plane for her. Al said Colleges have to come to her because she had 1.5 days off and they have to go around his schedule. She was on billboards, in magazines.

        I am skipping over the rest of this BS til the Marta stuff.


      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Thanks GTT this re-cap is awesome. LOL @ patrol officer comment.

        Sounds like Terin is really full of herself to be honest. I did like her as a gymnast though but she sounds like she wants to paint this picture that she works the hardest of everyone.

        Can you expand on the comment about the 2004 squad jealous of Patterson’s success and fighting? I didn’t know the inner workings of that team…didn’t think they weren’t getting along. I’d be curious, of course.

        And it sounds like if McCool had been hit by a truck Terin wouldn’t have minded.

  16. Exgymgurl Says:

    Huge fight about asac being on the 2012 team.

  17. Exgymgurl Says:

    Apparently they threw papers down and got very heated in discussing putting alicia on the team. Sorry bout that people.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      The only person Alicia could have replaced was Mckayla. Is she saying it was between the 2 and please explain to me how Alicia didn’t even make alternate if she was almost on the team?

      This is interesting. Maybe I will listen tomorrow:)

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      What was the payback for Chellsie in 2003 about?

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        Seemed like she was really pissed Chellsie was set to replace her in 2003 and got payback in 2012

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I am getting to the 2012 stuff. I’ll let you know my opinion in a few:)

    • Akshay Says:

      I TOTALLY agree with GTT. It makes absolutely zilch sense that they were all heated about Alicia being on the team, and then didn’t even make her an alternate?

      I really wanted Alicia to be on that team, I’ll admit.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I never wanted her on that team. I can’t stand Alicia but I will never understand why she wasn’t at least an alternate. Learning about Mckayla being injured makes it even more curious. We were told , no one event gymnast and they did just that.

        More Marta doing what Marta wants.

      • Akshay Says:

        Right and according to Lauren from TCG, the whole “We’re using Mckayla on FX” was never an actual plan. They never intended on using her there, they only said that to keep people quiet, which didn’t fly with some coaches. I also do not buy that Marta would use Anna Li in a million years. No way.

        I never cared for Alicia the person (other than her handing it to Nastia post-Beijing), but I always enjoyed her gymnastics at least.

      • uglyfatkid Says:

        All this talk of Chellsie in ’12 is bringing up repressed feelings that I have been burring since it happened. I honestly don’t know if I would have put her on the team in the end (because the poor girl had a history of breaking), but the rejection of her petition to Nationals still makes me fume. And now that we know how the Nastia shit played out (fail again and again…YET still get a pass to Trials), it makes the hypocrisy and political nature of Marta’s regime even more apparent. Chellsie may have gotten hush money and moved on, but I haven’t. I was never a Marta fan, but this event sealed her fate with me. She’s pure evil.

        As for Asac, I am also glad she didn’t make the 2012 team. I appreciate what she brought to the sport over the years, but in 2012 she wasn’t needed. It would have been like putting Nastia on the team just because she “did something” once years ago. Asac’s vaulting was needed years ago, but every member of the FF (assuming Kyla still had her Amanar at the time) had a higher scoring vault then she did. She didn’t deserve the spot. Was she screwed out of an alternate spot? Probably. But I don’t know if she would have taken it anyway…especially if she was promise a true spot by Marta before everything went down. She seems too proud and vindictive to me…but I could be wrong. I could see her not playing along am accepting the alternate spot once she was screwed over by Marta’s BS promises.

        In the end, I agree with GTT and Akshay…the story they are selling doesn’t add up…but I don’t know where the holes are. The regime’s side? Asac’s side? Either way something stinks of deceit.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I did too – I thought the fact she never fell off beam when she came back was very compelling, plus it would have been exciting to see her compete again on it in London (would have been more epic than seeing Gabby miss her connections on beam and get credit for it).

        I definitely think at the end of the day though the London team was the best choice as it was. If there were room for a 6th I would have rooted for ASac but because there were only 5 I feel Maroney more deserved that spot. Even though like I said before it would have been a cool moment.

        Of all the Beijing team and their “comebacks” ASac’s was most legit…

  18. H Says:

    But if Alicia was on the team, could she have brought home a gold, not a silver medal on vault?

    • Akshay Says:

      I mean technically Maroney would have easily, since no one expected her to fall. I kept hearing that USOC put pressure on USAG to take Maroney because they wanted to get that “guaranteed” vault gold medal. I think ASac could have won it anyway though.

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      You know we’ll never know the answer but the truth is, ASac would likely have brought home the vault gold. Assuming she didn’t re-injure herself. She wasn’t fully 100% back at Trials (still babying the Achilles) and for that reason alone Maroney made the more sound choice at the time.

      I still don’t know why ASac wasn’t made alternate. Maybe she told Marta she wouldn’t accept alternate, who knows.

      I totally agree Anna Li would never have been used, even if Gabby broke her leg. Marta would use Aly over Anna.

      I still don’t understand the comment about Terin being replaced w/Chellsie in 2003 – weren’t they both part of that 2003 Worlds team?

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