While I was sleeping: The f*** the world edition


I am sure there is more to report but I am exhausted and don’t have the time or energy to blog a real blog. 


I saw this routine on youtube and thought it was interesting. A lot of turns but I kind of liked it. I was wondering what you all thought of a routine with this many turns ?</p

Sanne won beam at the recent world cup in Osijek. I’ll post the finals results later.

Here is the recent Boston Globe article on Aly. Tonight she was given an award for a local thing alleged to be a tradition but it involved basketball so whatever. I posted the whole article because the Globe sucks and tomorrow you will have to pay if you want to read. Now you don't have too. Larry my BFF will own the Globe soon and hopefully he will fire the idiots they have writing sports over there because the entire lot needs to be canned.

Dear Karma, Please get the people that deserve it. You owe me and the world big time.



Go or no go? Either way, why? Aly Raisman won a couple of gymnastics gold medals at the London Olympics last year, so it figures that she would keep tumbling all the way to Rio de Janeiro for a reprise in 2016. Or it figures that she should call it a career at 19 and move on.

“Either people just assume I’m coming back or I get, why would you bother coming back?” said the Needham native, who will be honored Tuesday night at TD Garden by The Sports Museum along with Jack Nicklaus, Doug Flutie, Carlton Fisk, Derek Sanderson, Vince Wilfork, and the Celtics ownership group. “That’s my least favorite question in the world. It’s not about medals. It’s about doing what you love to do.”

That’s why Raisman is back at her old gym in Burlington where her Olympic odyssey began nearly a decade ago with coach Mihai Brestyan. After a year’s worth of the red-carpet treatment, she is making her re-entry into normal life.

“Of course, I’ve never had a normal life,” Raisman said, only half-jokingly.

Her new normal includes a couple of classes at Babson, her sponsorship commitments, her charity work, and her public appearances. Almost all of what’s in her date book was the byproduct of a few dozen minutes of inspired work in London, where Raisman captained the US team to the most impressive victory in Games history, won an individual gold on floor exercise, collected a bronze on balance beam, and just missed another in the all-around on a tiebreaker.

“It’s amazing and crazy,” she marveled.

Not that it was surprising. The Americans were expected to win the team gold as defending world champions, and floor was Raisman’s best event. The trick was to cash the favorite’s ticket when the moment came, when a single misstep could knock you off the podium.

“The Olympics was so much pressure for the five of us,” said Raisman, who was a Games rookie like the rest of her teammates. “We’d trained our whole lives for it, but at the same time we were confident.”

Gabby Douglas won the all-around, McKayla Maroney took a vault silver that would have been gold but for a bottom-first landing, and Raisman collected her pair from the apparatus finals. The question for all of the Fierce Five, which also included former world champion Jordyn Wieber and Kyla Ross, was: What next?

Only Maroney and Ross competed in this summer’s national championships in Hartford, where the quintet was inducted into the USA Gymnastics Hall of Fame. It was too soon for Raisman to get back into a competitive leotard.

“I desperately needed a break,” she said.

Her schedule was jammed as it was, particularly with her “Dancing with the Stars” adventure.

“It was life-changing,” said Raisman, who reached the finals with partner Mark Ballas. “For the first time in my life, to do something out of my comfort zone. I didn’t feel any pressure but I was nervous because you have five days to learn dances you’ve never tried before.”

“Dancing with the Stars” was part of the goodie bag of perks that can come with a gold medal. Raisman got to light the torch at this summer’s Maccabiah Games in Jerusalem, where she took her family for a vacation. She appeared on David Letterman’s show and “Access Hollywood” (where she was drug-tested because she still was Olympic-eligible) and threw out the first pitch at Fenway. She helped develop her signature line of leotards for GK Elite.

Meanwhile, the next quadrennium was beginning without her.

Less than two months after the London Games, US coach Martha Karolyi was convening two dozen juniors at the team’s Houston boot camp, her eye already on Rio.

“We have to think about the next generation,” she said.

The captain of the Class of 2012, of course, is welcome to stick around.

“Martha said, ‘I’m not putting any pressure on you,’ ” said Raisman. “ ‘Whenever you’re ready to come back, we have open arms for you.’ ”

While she wasn’t prepared to compete this season, Raisman felt the urge to get back in gear.

“It took me a long time, but one morning I woke up and said, I’m ready to come back,” she said. “Now that I’m back, I feel like a little kid again.”

It took 16 years in the gym for that little kid to scale Olympus, and even for champions, return trips are far from automatic. Five of the six members of the 2008 team, including Raisman’s former clubmate Alicia Sacramone, tried to make the 2012 squad. None did. Age, weight, injuries, and the challenge of mastering difficult new tricks make reprises rare, but they do happen. Dominique Dawes, one of the Magnificent 7 in 1996, made one more team (in 2000) and won another medal.

Raisman will be only 22 in the next Olympic year and she has managed to stay healthy in a sport that rips up shoulder, knees, and ankles. She already may have two golds as keepsakes, but she wouldn’t mind collecting a third in the all-around.

“It’s never enough,” she said. “You can always do more. Of course I would like to win more medals for my country. It’s just the most amazing thing.”

Having done it, Raisman has no illusions about what it would take again: hundreds of hours in the gym with Brestyan pushing her. So she has been making the most of her sabbatical.

“My coaches told me, take the year to have fun,” she said. “Do whatever you want to do because once you come back, that’s it.”

So she has tried to keep her new normal life in balance. Two mornings a week at Babson (“I hadn’t been in a classroom since junior year of high school.”). Her calendar commitments, which include hosting a Weston charity event next month benefiting Uniting Against Lung Cancer, the disease that claimed her grandmother two years ago.

But the road to Rio goes through the gym on Ray Avenue, and there are no shortcuts.

The best thing about a reprise, though, is that it means you’ve been there once. So why not take the shot?

“I feel like I’ve already done it,” Raisman said. “So if it doesn’t go my way, at least I’ve done what I always wanted to do.”
John Powers can be reached at jpowers@globe.com.

61 Responses to “While I was sleeping: The f*** the world edition”

  1. JAS4 Says:

    I wonder if Aly will keep doing the AA or if she will drop bars (and maybe even vault) and focus on her best events

    • Akshay Says:

      Although in theory it is a better idea to focus on her best events, if the team size is reduced to 4 (like Bruno apparently is talking about), then I think it’ll be increasingly important to at least train weaker events, just in a worst case scenario. So I dunno what she’ll end up doing.

      • gymnerd Says:

        Isn’t that not till 2020 though?

      • Katie Says:

        I hate Bruno grandi and his notions about team sizes. I miss the days of taking the top seven. And the days of pre “new life”. A gymnast really had to be a gymnast.

      • uglyfatkid Says:

        Great point Akshay…with a 4 person team it’s essential for everyone to be AA gymnasts. We’ll have to see if that ends up happening.

        Speaking of AA vs. Specialist…I’m not sure where I stand on the debate. While I have more respect for an AA gymnast…I find myself getting board as hell when I watch people in Event Finals who really shouldn’t be competing but get to because of the 2 per country rule. I think having only those who are AA compete would be similar to this. We would lose some of the awesome and difficult skills we see in EF. Maroney is a prime example. If we had to only take AA contenders, she would not have been on the 2011 worlds or Olympic team. She is not strong enough on bars or beam (though beam is better than bars). If that was the case, we would never see her great vaulting. I’m sure there are other examples like He Kexin (spelling?), but I can’t think of any.🙂

        Like I said, I have more respect for those who are AA’ers…but I would miss those who are freakin’ great at only one or two events. I would rather have specialists on teams, than watch boring EF with AA people who shouldn’t even be in the final to begin with…cough cough Gabby (beam) or Nastia (floor).

        And just to say it…I get equality and giving people a chance and all that…but this 2 per country thing has always pissed me off. Could you imagine watching a TRUE AA or EF if the field was made up entirely of those who scored the best? Regardless of country?? I would pay BIG bucks to watch that. So…screw you FIG!!!🙂

      • Katie Says:

        @uglyfatkid- completely disagree regarding team size and AA strength. The smaller the team, the more need for specialists. A four person team could literally be comprised of all specialists. True all around gymnasts are becoming very rare.

      • uglyfatkid Says:

        @Katie – I agree that a team of 4 could potentially be comprised of all specialists, so we actually agree there.🙂 However, what happens when injury strikes? Assuming a “specialist” only can do two events (beam/bars, floor/vault, or whatever combo), a team of all specialists would be hard to fill. Assuming there is 2 beam/bars specialists, and 2 vault/floor…who else is going to compete on each event if its 3 up 3 count? Obviously things change if the specialists are really good at 3 events…but it still leaves you open if injury strikes. With 4 gymnasts only being good at 3 events, an injury could destroy you if it hit the event (or two) that didn’t have proper back up.

        I think is safer and wiser to take all AA gymnasts, so there is always someone who can fill the hole…and fill it well if injury strikes. I think Maroney would have been left home during the Olympics had it been only a 4 person team. Everyone left could perform every event fairly well if there was an injury. Assuming 1 of those four were out on their best event, and the worst person filled in…we would have the following changes at the Olympics (again…assuming Maroney is out because of the 4 member team):

        Ross would vault and would have scored lower by 7 tenths assuming only a DTY. (I think she still had her amanar though). Aly would do bars, but still would score in the low 14s. Any member of the 4 person team could have filled beam and still scored in the mid 14s (they wouldn’t take a huge loss here…beam was a strength). Ross would do floor and would score in the low 14s.

        In this worst case scenario, we still didn’t come out too bad because all 4 were AA and could fill the holes. Now try doing that if Maroney was the person “in” and Kyla was “out”. We don’t do as well with her “in”. In the end, I feel that a smaller team demands more (if not all) AA gymnasts.

        Thanks for you reply by the way, I’ve always liked your comments (even if we disagree).🙂

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        The smaller the team, the more need for all arounders. Look at the change that happened when the team size went from 6 to 5 – all of those girls were basically all around gymnasts, with Kyla and McKayla filling in as specialists that could fill in in the event someone was injured.

        In 2008, with a 6-member squad, there was more room for a specialist or 2 (specialist literally meaning someone who did NOT train all 4 events) – and even then, the specialist had to bring with them at least 3 events. So for instance you had ASac who could do beam, floor, and vault.

        If the team were a four-person team and all true specialists, you’d put yourself at a huge risk for being left very vulnerable if someone were injured, especially if that someone were one of the all arounders. You’d need at least 2 solid all arounders – probably 3 – on a 4-man team. If you rely on all specialists you could very well end up in a situation where you’d need ASac to go compete bars, and that wouldn’t be good. Especially if they keep the 3 up 3 count.

      • sj0126 (@sj0126) Says:

        There is literally no room for any specialists when you have only a 4 person team. You never know what can happen in the olympics and having someone who can only do 2 events on a team with only four people would never ever work. What if you bring someone like McKayla who is really solid on vault and floor and they get injured like she did and she can only do 1? Then all 3 girls left have to do every other event.

        The thing that is so stupid about this to me is that this is a reaction to people not liking the 2 per country rule because of what happened with Jordyn. So in response you make the teams even smaller so they all have to be AAers basically making it even harder to get in the AA and having more controversy when someone with a good score doesn’t get in? WHAT?

      • uglyfatkid Says:

        Couldn’t agree more Sanity and SJ. If the team sizes continue to be cut down, the “specialist” roll would become almost nonexistent. Which is bittersweet to me as I described already above. I love AA’ers (I think it is “harder” and more prestigious), but I hate losing those people that really rock on one event.

        @SJ – I have never thought about the 2 per country thing and the correlation with smaller team sizes. It makes no sense what they are doing.

        What is the official reasoning behind the smaller teams? Are they saying they are making the change so countries with fewer gymnasts can compete? So they can field a complete team? If so, I hate the decision even more than I already do. All it does is water down the competitions even more. I get fairness/equality/whatever, but I want to see the best compete based on merit…not some rule/loop hole built in to make every country feel good. If only Russians and Chinese gymnasts competed in UB finals because no one else came close to their scores…I would be totally happy. As long as people are good…I don’t care what country they are from. I want to see elite gymnastics performed well. That’s all I care about.

        On a personal note, this sort of thing happened when I was in high school and it pissed me off. We had a regional meet (in Drama…yes…I was a drama geek), and awards were given for those who were the best. If you placed well, you went to state. I won an award, and was scheduled for state. We found out a few weeks before state that it was no longer a competition, and was now a “festival.” They didn’t want people to feel bad about losing…so it was changed so no one “lost” and no awards were given out…just to make people feel better. I was enraged. I refused to go to state, because the whole point was lost. It was a competition…not summer camp. Could you imagine them doing this in Football, Basketball, or another sport? Nope…they never would. Damn those Arts programs with all of their “feelings”.🙂

        I feel that the more they reduce teams in gymnastics, or narrow the field so “everyone” gets a chance to compete…they are taking away the true nature of the competition. Could you imagine the original Greeks saying…”No you can’t compete, because it will make the Romans feel bad that they aren’t as good.” Nope…I can’t. It was about talent…not feelings.

        Sorry…I’m off my soapbox now.🙂

      • Katie Says:

        @uglyfatkid- hmm, you have a point. I think i was just a little depressed bc i had just watched the96 finals and then I read the bs about Bruno and the 4 member proposition and I was like hell no! If a team is 4-4-4 then you’re right, no specialists. But I am not on board with 4-3-3. I want back the 7-6-5.

  2. uglyfatkid Says:

    That beam routine was interesting. It’s at least nice to see someone do something different for a change, but I wasn’t in love with it. It reminded me of Nastia’s bar routine…it was code whored to death with the same 3 skills varied slightly over and over again (AKA Nastia’s pirouetting). The back handspring with a full was in 3 moves (mount, solo skill in the middle of the routine, and then once with the swing down added), then there was the 2 side arials in combo, then all of the turns with varied legs (at horizontal or held bent).

    I can appreciate the work she did connecting the arial skills (side, side, front, wolf jump) and all the those turns though. But the rest was weak sauce to me…especially the dismount. I didn’t see a leap series too? Did miss that? 2 connected/consecutive leaps? Also, she doesn’t get credit for the second double spin at the end right? She had already done it at the end of the combo of turns/spins. The leg positioning looked like the same…so no points right?

    In the end, interesting and fun to watch compared to the cookie cutter stuff we see…but too Nastia code whore/same elements over and over for me.

    I know nothing about her. Does she have any other good events? Are the rest of her routines like this?

    • H Says:

      Agreeing with lot of what you are saying, but that last double turn is normally trippel.

      • uglyfatkid Says:

        I see! That makes more sense. If she would have performed the triple at the end, she would have got credit for it. Thanks for letting me know. I have never heard of her before.

    • DL Says:

      I like her attack–there’s no timid pausing, and she has pretty good flow. The turns are pretty impressive, but her form on twisting skills needs a fair bit of work.

  3. nero Says:

    Does anyone know what the medals for Worlds look like? I loved the ones from 2007, square which was unique and the ribbon was short which I think looks a lot better on the shorter gymnasts haha. The ones from 2011 were also pretty badass, the ones from 2010 were kind of pathetic (And yes as an athlete I realize it’s about the title not necessarily the medal) but they were kind of pitiful.

    Somewhere between the 2010 medals and 2012 Olympic medals would be a good size.

    What if they were this big? Imagine little Simone walking around with this on her neck, she might tip over!


    • sanitynmotion Says:

      Hah, I don’t even know what any of the medals look like. I never pay attention I guess. When I was younger and paid more attention to that kind of thing, I remember I really loved the Nagano winter Olympic games medals. Of course Michelle Kwan’s medal was the WRONG color but I digress.

      • nero Says:

        Oh God I’m like a medal junkie hahaha. I have no idea why! You could probably line up all the medals from the Olympics and gymnastics Worlds and I could name where and when they’re from!

        I guess I feel since they work so hard for them the physical representation of their hard work should at least look decent? I sincerely waited for the reveal of the London Medals. I had to learn how they were made, why it looks that way, the story behind them etc. I really loved the purple ribbon and the front was beautiful, but the back was…well a let down.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Interesting. You should totally write a blog about it and have GTT post it here! I’d totally read it. Ooh with pictures of all of them.🙂

      • uglyfatkid Says:

        I’d read it Nero!🙂

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I would too – I’m actually hoping you’ll do it.🙂 Write the medal blog. With pictures to boot.🙂

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I have no clue what you are talking about but any of you are welcome to write a blog about gymnastics and I will post it ( I reserve the right to not post it too)

      • nero Says:

        Haha, I’m sure people don’t find it as interesting as I do.

        But in other news JOOOOORDDDDDYNNNNNN!!!!! Be still my heart. Keep it up. You go Glenn JoJo


      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Ahhh! What does this mean? I hope she’ll come back. I would love that. I have a feeling that the Geddert rumors are true and she needed to distance herself from him.

      • biyatch Says:

        The UCLA gymnastics team was at a preseason camp at Woodward West, Jordyn was there as a student manager. According to a bunch of tweets she was going into the gym before the team and working out. Classes start at UCLA next week so only time will tell if Jo is going to be able to keep up elite level training while taking a full load of classes and working with the team.

        Aly tweeted that she’s going to Antwerp for Worlds (I believe doing appearances for GK). I wonder if Gabby is going as well.

      • exgymgurl Says:

        If she gets athlete tutoring with the team then she should be able to keep up. Alicia did it at Brown and competed gymnastics for Brown for one season. Im so proud of Jordyn she looks like shes still in great shape…..

      • Catherine Says:

        Jordyn’s roommate is Peng Peng Lee! PPL plans to compete elite too, so they can inspire each other. She has an ask, ChittyPeng, and it’s good. Planning on doing her flairs mount, maybe the bhardwaj.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I agree. Those medals were beautiful wrong color for Kwan aside. The ones that annoying Hughes sister got were gross. They were huge and ugly.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      the 2002 ones were the ugly ones. They were holes.

      I like the ones for this up and coming Olympics and the Turin ones


      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I like the detailing. The Vancouver ones were boring, no? Yeah the Turin ones were fugly.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I have some camp news for everyone but I won’t be blogging it. The info came from a very credible source but you can take it as you wish.

        Mckayla Maroney will not being doing the AA. She fell 3 times beam the two day camp competition but hit her vault and floor. (Fell off bars each day and beam once don’t know which night)

        Every member at camp had at least one major mistake between the two days. Night one was a fall fest.

        You’re welcome.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Thanks for sharing GTT. I figured it would be too early for Maroney to do the AA.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Thank my source who shall remain nameless. I love how this source just sends me info even when I don’t ask for it. I can’t see myself ever being someone that hounds people for information so I was thrilled to go to my e-mail and find someone just send me something:)

        If you are reading this source and I know eventually you will thanks:)

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        When I said Mckayla fell 3 times it should say between bars and beam. She did not fall 3 times on both events. I realized the way I worded it can be interpreted a different way even though I correctly stated above that she fell off bars both days.

        So to clarify, Mckayla fell 3 times total. Both days on bars and once on beam.

      • Tortuga Says:

        Oh thanks GTT and nameless source for the info. I still hope Maroney rocks her two events. I don’t know if she has a shot at a floor medal but good for her. Dowell might gets a go at it then eh?

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Every gymnast had at least one major mistake during the meets but Dowell did really well on floor. Oops I slipped more info:)

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Are you not allowed to slip everything? Makes me wonder if Marta is going to put Dowell and Maroney up on floor in lieu of Simone. Where did Kyla have a major mistake? That’s a concern because Kyla needs to be perfect if she wants to make that podium. She did not build enough of a D score in her routines for her to be able to absorb a mistake.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I was told everyone had at least one major mistake( Ernst fell on floor both days) but the only other specific I was told was Mckayla’s 3 falls (bars both days)

      • sj0126 (@sj0126) Says:

        I don’t think Brenna can do floor unless she replaces her instead of McKayla and I would have to kill her if she did that, hahaha. There’s 3 spots for each event and Simone and Kyla obviously do all for the AA. I would guess Kyla’s problem on day 1 was probably on floor. I would be very shocked if it was anything else.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Unless Kyla, Simone or Mckayla don’t do floor Brenna can’t do it.

        3 gymnasts on each event.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I’m literally betting Brenna won’t be doing anything at Worlds unless someone is injured; she can do bars & beam in Quals but I don’t see her making it to event finals. I can’t see Brenna taking AA over Kyla.

        It “should” be:

        Vault: Simone, Kyla, McKayla
        Bars: Simone, Kyla, Brenna
        Beam: Simone, Kyla, Brenna
        Floor: Simone, Kyla, McKayla

        Looking at this list I’m wondering why Marta didn’t take Peyton Ernst. Seems Peyton has a stronger bars/beam than Brenna (and wasn’t Peyton 2nd behind Kyla on bars in Classics – a distant 2nd, but 2nd nonetheless).

        I really think Marta is taking Brenna as a bye-bye present from elite/national team status. I just don’t see her going to another Worlds team beyond this year.

      • mimi Says:

        if brenna did well on floor im wondering is kyla will be a bars/beam specialist and brenna in AA. i hope not though!

      • Tortuga Says:

        I agree with everything Sanity said. I don’t know if this a going away present because she was solid this year. She could be an Aly in the rough? I wanted Peyton to go but she wasn’t consistent enough. How old is Dowell anyway? She’s seems very college gymnastics type to me.

      • Flippateer Says:

        Thanks for the insider info, GTT, this is great. I don’t quite understand the going-away present bit with respect to Brenna, as I’d think it’d be in the team’s best interest to take someone in 2013 to get int’l experience who could at least contend for the Worlds team in 2014. Can someone more knowledgeable give an example of when Marta has given someone a Worlds berth as a farewell present? The thing that’s coming to mind is leaving ASac named to the 2011 team after her injury so she could get that elusive record-breaking medal, but as much as that was a gimme, ASac was at least genuinely named to the team and was going to compete (and possibly be an Olympic team threat) before her injury.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Maybe not so much a going away present (nobody knows if Brenna is indeed going away) but it might be a passive aggressive way of Marta telling Brenna and her coach that “hey, we know she’s got the skills and has the work horse mentality, but her form is not going to cut it in international competition.” So either it could be a subliminal message to go back and work on those other things, or focus on college and get out of Marta’s way.

        Either way, this spot is basically a gimme. All of the senior US girls that have potential to medal in each of the events are going, and that’s McKayla, Kyla, and Simone – basically they have the AA and all 4 events covered between them. It didn’t really matter who was going to be in that 4th spot, because whoever it was was bound to be a benchwarmer. The senior girls don’t really have a really really good bars/beam specialist – the best one for that spot currently is Kyla, who also happens to be an AA threat. If Ohashi were in shape she’d be perfect for that spot, but that’s not the case. Peyton Ernst is decent, but not stellar enough on either of those apparatuses to make a dent on the world stage.

        I think Marta is taking Brenna possibly as a nod to her hard work and to potentially show Al Fong he needs to either get her to change her form entirely or to back off on the idea that she would be a significant player on the world stage. That’s just my take. This Worlds really doesn’t matter for Rio. As we all saw from 2009, none of those girls went on to make London. Bross got all head casey and injured, Sloan got injured, Kayla (the vaulter) went back to level 10 and then to college (I think) and Ivana Hong went to Stanford.

        There would be no gimmies in the 2011 Worlds because that’s the year before the Olympics. ASac was given that medal after her injury, sure, but before that she “was” a threat for the vault medal and was going to help the team on beam and possibly floor. At the time it was a heads-on race between her and Maroney, and Maroney won out due to ASac’s injury and Maroney having the best amanar in the world.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I don’t agree it is a going away present either but I think what everyone means is Marta is sending her to let her know she isn’t good enough to win medals.This way she knows and will got to College.

        IMO this is testing her. She has a lot of talent and needs to fix her form. They are sending her out to see how she is judged. If the judges kill her like they did Natasha Kelley they will know it isn’t worth their time to invest in her as the future.

        Marta loved Natasha Kelley. She was the A-Typical gymnast they have always produced in the US. Bad to no form but she could hit when needed. The year they went her to worlds she was not well received by the judges and she was never scored well in the US again.

        Marta doesn’t care enough about any gymnast but her pet Nastia to waste time teaching a lesson. She will just score you badly say like Skinner. If she liked Skinner she would have scored better in spite of the bad form. She must see potential in Dowell

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Thye are confusing me on this page. The donut holes ones were ugly.


  4. exgymgurl Says:

    I have a strong feeling Jordyn is in it to win it and Aly is as well. Thing is worlds next year will be so much more interesting than worlds this year. We will be half way through the quad and celebrating the quadrennium of Aliyas coming out party. The only one of the fierce 5 I dont think has it will be Gabby. People forget that Jordyn is a fierce competitor, and that it KILLED her not to make AA finals. I think its driving her. I think Raisman is like Kyla so consistent and so good that you just dont see any of the newbies establishing that level of consistency. Im sorry but you dont. Ohashi was the only one, and Biles is getting there.

    • nero Says:

      Jordyn doesn’t have to take a full class load does she? If she needs more time in the gym I don’t see anything preventing her from only taking 2-3 classes.

      I actually think if Gabby applies herself she has the most potential to return. Solely based on body type and bars ability. The key here is ‘apply herself’ she really has nothing putting a fire under her butt. The other 4 have something to aim for. Jordyn and the AA, Mckayla and vault, Aly and that cursed 4th spot and Kyla being more than just ‘team member’

      I like Simone. How about the Rio team is Jordyn, Aly, Kyla, Mckayla and Simone? Jordyn wins AA and Aly gets 3rd. Mckayla and Simone go 1-2 on vault. Kyla wins bars. Kyla and Jordyn win beam medals and Simone and Aly go 1-2 on floor (sorry Aly you already have 2 Olympic gold medals already haha) Ahhhhh dreams.

      • sj0126 (@sj0126) Says:

        My dream Rio team at the moment would be Jordyn, McKayla, Kyla, Bailie, Laurie Hernandez. (sorry Simone). I kind of want to slap Geddert around because Jordyn definitely could have made an AA spot this year if it wasn’t for his BS.

        Jordyn is taking classes but its prolly like Aly- 1-2 classes a couple days a week. She’s got that fire still to compete.

      • Flippateer Says:

        I agree with nero (and Chow) about Gabby’s as-yet unrealized potential. If a gymnast was going to have a day-of misfortune that kept them from realizing their Olympic dream in 2012, in a sense I wish it had been Gabby rather than Jordyn and McKayla. Not that I’m wishing Gabby ill at all – it’s just that of the Fierce Five, I feel that Gabby has (or at least had, if she’d remained with Chow) the most potential to evolve spectacularly in all four events over the next four years. And with the fire in her belly of “not quite getting there” in London, I think that’s what we’d have seen from Gabby, assuming she stayed injury-free. But now … I can completely understand that having grabbed the brass ring of her sport, she is ambivalent about the immense sacrifices needed to stay at the top for the next three years.

        (FWIW, I’m not wild about Gabby’s personality (‘I inspired a generation!!!’ ‘Everyone’s looking up to me, whee!’ ‘I needed better coaching and I’m going to denigrate my first coaches publicly!!!’) and some of her personal decisions, esp. how she left Chow’s gym. To defer her departure to when he was out of the country and she didn’t have to look him in the eye = extremely poor form. But I do think that of the current international elites, she has/had unusually high potential, i.e., she was that rare gymnast who could win the AA even without being at or close to her max potential. So I’m sorry if we’re not going to get to see her do that, even if a silver lining will be not having to deal with her public displays of immaturity.)

      • KS Says:

        I believe she needs to be a full time student to be the team’s student manager which at UCLA is usually 3 classes for 1st year students.

      • biyatch Says:

        You’re correct KS, she has to meet the same standards as a “normal” NCAA student athlete to be a team manager according to NCAA rules. UCLA is on a quarter system as opposed to semester which could make class load easier.

        I wonder about Jo going to camps though if she’s going to make another run. On the one hand you want to keep her out of Marta’s grasp and harms way, but on the other hand its very easy to see how Marta blackballs you if you dont play her game (Chellsie).

        I could see Aly being back in camp as early as the end of the year, if only because Mihai travels to all the camps so might as well go with him, not miss timw with her personal coach and get her national team funding back.

      • KS Says:

        I just recently graduated from UCLA and I can attest that the quarter system is a lot more fast paced (and a little more difficult) compared to the semester system. She’s majoring in Psych right? I’m sure Jo can handle it…if anything it’s the commute from UCLA to the gym that might prove to be the most difficult for her.

      • Sara Says:

        apparently she’s the team assistant, not manager. So, that might come with not as many responsibilities, meaning she could handle classes and training better.

  5. gymnastwannabe Says:

    I can see Ross and Maroney being specialists for Rio. I see the possible need for 4 AA if the team is only 4; but if they can each continue to put the top scores in their area of specialty and be used as back-ups on the other events, I think they are set. I’m not convinced that Kyla wants to be an AA. I’m not saying this as a knock to her, but I think she is a very realistic, rational thinker. She knows floor is a huge weakness and stronger people are coming up. I think we didn’t see upgrades on floor b/f London, b/c she knew she needed to focus on kicking ass on beams and bars if she had a shot and I see this being the same for Rio. I see Jordyn coming back. Jordyn has won every major competition besides the Olympics. She doesn’t need to rush back into competition to prove anything. She can stay in top shape & not miss out on her scholarship and going to school with her peers…I applaud her for thinking long-term. Jordyn knows all it takes is one injury…why throw away a college. Even if she gets one or two years of school under her belt and then returns to MI, she’s half-way to her degree and planning a future outside of gymnastics. I think so many gymnasts throw all their eggs into one basket and then they don’t know what to do when they can’t make it elite anymore.

  6. Tortuga Says:

    There’s a rumor on tumblr that Musty is sick again. Anyone else heard anything about it yet? I kind of wonder if it’s a rumor like saying the Russians were getting Amanars before London.

    • Catherine Says:

      They seem to be coming down with viruses a lot. Round Lake needs to be disinfected or something. And I heard this too.

      • nero Says:

        Drown that place in bleach ASAP. That many girls should not be that sick so often. I lived in the dorms while the fucking swine flu was going around and the worst I got was a really bad cold once.

    • biyatch Says:

      Rewriting Russian Gymnastics was reporting it on their fb page.

    • sainabou nyang Says:

      I read an article today about komova that the meningitis she contracted was more serious than we thought and that her doctors told her no physical activity for three months.

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