While I was sleeping: The camp version

Cincinnati Gymnastics just put this on twitter,


Lexie and Amelia finished 3rd in the Sr / Jr division at verification at the ranch! Lex was 3rd in physical abilities too! Your hard work and dedication will always pay off! Love you both!! (Emily did amazing too and will be one to watch for in the future!) — with Lexie Priessman.

Triple Twist had this on their tumblr,

Lexie Priessman-3rd

Maggie Nichols- 4th


Nia Dennis- 1st

Amelia Hundley- 3rd

I also read somewhere that Skinner hit four for four but I forget where I read that.

Trouble at Italian Nationals.

TripleTwist gets a mention in an NBC article. Great job girls. Out trumping the regular media. Gotta love it.

An article on an Ant. Okay that is his name but I love articles on young gymnasts because in ten years we can look back and try and remember why we know the name.

Beth Tweddle living the life of a retired Olympic medalist.


Michelle Kwan , A nice article on her Pay attention spoiled world if immigrants. The Kwans worked for and achieved their dreams. They didn’t just come here and take welfare and say the world owed them. TAKE NOTE.


68 Responses to “While I was sleeping: The camp version”

  1. brouhaha Says:

    Kwan is always so awesome. I love her

  2. brouhaha Says:

    ok, I just read the article about “the Ant” — USA MAG’s national training program MAKES SO MUCH MORE sense than WAG. I know, I know, blame Martha, but it’s just unbelievable how divorced men and womens gymnastics programs are … running MAG through the Olympic Training Center in Colorado just makes so much more sense than the Karolyi death camps /rant/

    • biyatch Says:

      not trying to defend marta but i dont think holding the mens program up is the best example considering not only their lack of recent success but how disjointed the mens team seemed at the olympics. you had danell hiding under his towel, orozco looking like a lost puppy and the other three acting like it was an ncaa meet.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I think the best thing they ever did was adopt the US code for College gym. At first I thought it was unfair but it seems to have worked out. I agree the men have not been that successful but that is because they don’t have the talent or drive that Kohei and company have.

        Have you ever seen the videos of the men working out? It looks like a big party. They stand their cheering each other. Its very weird. It does not look like the women when they train.

      • exgymgurl Says:

        The men have no work ethic and barely touch equipment. They are like Stanford I guess and only do visualization. The mens theam does not take it seriously. Their routines are wrought with imperfection and lack of appropriate toe point. They give up so many 10ths thats why they dont medal. It is not a good comparison. Marta trains every 10th. The men train like they are doing track and field where your form doesnt matter in high jump and pole vault as long as you make it over or around.

      • Brouhaha Says:

        Biyatch – yeah, that wasn’t really a good comparison …. But I guess my point was that it’s so odd to me that WAG is such a separate intity from MAG, which is under the USOC umbrella. Yes, Martha’s way is obviously better — MAG imploded during TF. But I still just can’t wrap my mind around how much autonomy Martha has in USAG, not surprised though lol

  3. Catherine Says:

    Interesting, hopefully that means they are better than they were in Europe. I’d imagine 1. Biles 2. Ross and 1. Key 2. Dennis (Laurie was not there). Even so that means Amelia beat..Shchennikova and a whole bunch of newbies, but it does mean that Lexie beat Ebee (if she did AA), Maroney, Desch etc.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      I am sick of hearing Shchennikova name. For a girl that didn’t even make the National team last year people sure love shoving her name in the middle of things. She has no difficulty and if she didn’t look like Nastia her name would never be mentioned.

      Thank you for listening:)

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        oh, snap. lol

        Ross won the physical abilities test last time, she could have won again this time?

      • Gymbee Says:

        The physical abilities testing, is that what I think it is? Like press to handstands, rope climbing, leg-ups and the works?

      • Catherine Says:

        I think her only hope is to overtake Ohashi on bars, which wouldn’t be tough since all of Ohashi’s turns have 0.3-5 deductions. They still suck on bars after all, only Ross, Price and Biles have TF worthy routines. But even if she does take a specialist spot next year (no chance this year) she’ll get lost with Key and Dennis in 2015 if she doesn’t super-majorly-upgrade-everywhere.

        I mention her as in, it’s not that big of a deal to beat her and one of the best juniors was not even there anyway.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Her bars does not have enough difficulty to merit a spot on any world team plus I think she really should make the National team on her own merit and not as a Marta gift before we expect her to make world teams.

        You have a start value like Anna Li you get an alternate spot/ specialist spot. Polina’s bars are not as great as they are being made out to be (not by you but by everyone) she is even more useless on the other 3 events then Anna Li was.

      • Catherine Says:

        Yes, that’s basically what that testing is. Surprisingly, Biles said before it’s not her strong point.

      • Catherine Says:

        I’m interested as to how they are at Classics, she hasn’t been seen in a whole year. But I do think she will get lost in the crowd unless her gymnastics has insanely upgraded.

      • Catherine Says:

        Ooo Nia was first! Second time in a row Bailie got beat hmm.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Bailie might be one of those gymnasts that never scores as well under Marta’s corrupt judges as she does under real judges.

        Mckayla beat Aly at Nationals and when they went to worlds Aly scored better and Shannon Miller always scored better outside the US then she did inside the US. It wasn’t until she was second at world in 91 in compulsories before she started getting scored better then Kerri Strug at meets in the US.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I’m getting to think that all judges are Marta corrupt judges – especially considering what happened at London w/Jordyn and Gabby.

        No way should Jordyn have scored that much lower than Gabby on beam and even on floor.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I know 2008 was fixed. Nellie Kim the Russian fixed it for the only Russian in the race even if she was competing under the American Flag and 2012 seemed to go the same way, both times screwing the current AA World Champion.

        Judges were nit picky at worlds the year before the Olympics and then all of a sudden easy going a year later except against the current world champ.

        Nellie Kim running down to the judges to make sure Nastia got credit for her leap and connection just confirms that.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Yea that whole thing was stupid too. Damn Nellie Kim and damn Marta.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Anyone know if Nellie Kim judging in 1988 because that would make 4 questionable AA titles all having her stamp on them. Two as judge (one until I know if she judges in 1988) and 2008 and 2012.

      • Lithi Says:

        GTT, Kim did judge in the ’88 Olympics and yes, although I am an extremely rabid Shushunova fan, even I say that 9.8 she gave Silivas for her first vault was BS. Even Dick Enberg, who was commentating for NBC, spoke about it.

        However, being that high and low scores were dropped at the time if she would have scored Silivas correctly (9.9) Shush still would’ve won. If she gave Silivas a 10 she and Shush would’ve tied for gold.

        By the way, what do you mean in your entry “Pay attention spoiled world if immigrants?” That doesn’t sound right to me. Did you mean pay attention if the reader was an immigrant? Sometimes I read your posts and wonder if English is really your first language. 😛

        And if that gets me banned, I apologize, but I really do wonder sometimes.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I think she meant to say “pay attention spoiled world OF immigrants…”

        Basically noting how many immigrants nowadays just move to the US and start sucking on the teat of the government via collecting welfare, food stamps, etc. right away, and never get off of it. Look at those Boston bomber idiots. Their family just moved here and started collecting welfare.

        Before the Democratic party started to go berserk on this “come hither and collect” method to buy votes, immigrants largely came to the US and worked their butts off to achieve the “American Dream.” Kwan’s family did just that. They moved here, started a business, and worked their butts off and eventually succeeded. It wasn’t always easy and they started off poor but it paid off for them.

        Nowadays it’s simply just too easy to come here, sign up for government assistance, and kick back and collect. Gives you and your children plenty of time to ponder over why you hate America and go online and build crock pot bombs so you can go and murder innocent children.

        That last sentence was a rant; I just don’t see how immigrants should be collecting government assistance in the US. It just doesn’t make sense to me. I can’t just go to Australia and start collecting…in fact, if I tried to even just go there to live and get a job I’d get kicked out!

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        It was obvious what I meant to say and thank you for pointing that out.:)

        I also agree with everything you just said. That family of bombers got over 100 thousand dollars in welfare from the US. When it dried up they left and left their kids here to collect. Sadly this is what every Politician seems to want. There has to be kick backs going on.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I am not a fan of Anne Coulter (or whatever her name is) but she made a statement at one time about how the US only allows third-world immigrants while refusing to accept educated, developed-world immigrants. She also made a case for how many people would be alive today had the US not been so lax on their immigration policies. It was quite remarkable. I’m going to find this article…


        Again, not a fan of hers nor her screaming but some of the points she made here really make you think…

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Yes English is my first language. It has been many years since I have been in school and I have seriously forgotten all the rules of English but in my defense I saw that mistake and when I went back to fix it I could not find it again so I just said fuck it. Go back and read my old blogs I have improved quite a bit since then thank you very much.

        I can’t spell and my grammar sucks. It is what it is. I write this blog for fun and if making fun of my 8th grade grammar ability makes you happy knock yourself out. All I can do is try and improve.

        Now if something I write is completely wrong you feel free to correct me. Just realize that I will NEVER be able to tell the difference between then and than and where the hell to end a sentence. I’ve tried it just ain’t gonna happen.lol

        This mistake was a typing error. I type faster then I think so sometimes these types of mistakes are going to happen. The word if in this situation doesn’t even make sense so when you see those types of mistakes it is my typing not my grammar issues causing the trouble.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I personally figured that and GTT honestly I don’t think your grammar sucks as much as you do. I find your writing witty and pretty well-spoken and given the Internet/blogging age I pretty much figure there will be a typo or two given fast/sticky fingers. All of us are prone to it and nobody is perfect. That’s why freakin cell phones have those disclaimers on emails: “sent from Droid/iPhone/etc…forgive misspellings and grammar mistakes.”

        I’m an avid reader in general so if your writing pissed me off I just wouldn’t read this blog. But I like it. A lot. In fact if not for this blog I would probably be wasting more time on FB, which is even worse.

        What I also was going to say is that if anyone thinks GTT’s writing is bad they have not been exposed to the teenagers/even college students of this day and age. I am shocked and sickened by how many people cannot write anymore.I know this because I see writing samples from others who want to join consulting practice based on appraisal writing.

        GTT at least you bang out complete sentences (for the most part; but again any non-complete sentences still make the case over what you are saying on your blog) that are backed by a clear thought process and you state your case overall. Today’s kids have such a hard time writing out complete thoughts, they are so distracted by what’s going on in their Facebook/Instagram/keek/vine worlds. It’s really a sad thing to see. The more social media communication that’s out there, the less kids these days (and even adults, now) can really effectively communicate with each other NOT using a device.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I usually check words I know I have issue with on yahoo. Half the time I get to yahoo I end up spelling the word right even though wordpress told me it was wrong.

        I hate the word definitely. I have to look it up every single time.lol I also know how to spell certain words but when I type them it some how gets mixed. The word spelled I just typed as speled. I probably have some form of dyslexia but I was way before the days of testing for that.

        Like I said below. If I am really off, tell me and I will fic it and hopefully learn the right way (after I do it wrong 50 times) I just realized what I was doing wrong with the word definitely now. I had an e where the I should have been. Maybe after so many years I have finally fixed that headache.lol

        I am thinking about starting a facebook for the blog under the name Gymma “truth” Teller. What do you think.lol

  4. sanitynmotion Says:

    I wish they would say who got 1st and 2nd and the rest…? Why so secret there?

    • sj0126 (@sj0126) Says:

      they usually say who wins 1-3rd in physical abilities and the AA. I think they’re waiting a bit longer since McKayla was there. The USAG twitter said today they’ll have videos out prolly next week from camp

  5. Gymbee Says:

    For some reason I didn’t read your first sentence, and I thought YOU wrote the thing about Lexie and Amelia haha! “Love you both?” haha.

  6. Gymbee Says:

    McKayla has posted a bunch of keeks from camp on her twitter. cute 🙂

  7. stephen Says:

    Ok so apparently McKayla landed the TTY on competition surface at camp.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      And where did you hear that Stephen????? 🙂

      • stephen Says:

        Well, 2 different (usually reliable) tumblr blogs. One of which heavily alluded to it and the other outright confirmed it. Take it with a grain of salt if you want although I believe it.Here’s the blog that confirmed it

      • Catherine Says:

        That blog says a bit underneath that ‘I wish anon’ to a question asking if the news was McKayla having a TTY. And then ‘The Maroney is real’ up at the top? I would trust Triple Twist first. Goddamnit Classics hurry the hell up!

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Do you think she’d debut it at Classics? I would bet she waits until Worlds before she does it, if she makes the team (Maroney). She should though if she has a TTY.

        Maroney, Biles, Ross, Price?

        I guess we suck at bars, so why even bother trying to find a specialist when there isn’t one. Give the bars/beam spots to clean Kyla and have Kyla, Biles, and Price duke it out for the AA spot.

      • Gymbee Says:

        I would think she would like to compete it a few times to see how it goes in competition. Also, is it only at Worlds it can get verified and named after her, or could that happen at Classics/Nationals?

      • Catherine Says:

        It has to be performed at Worlds, Olympics or Youth Olympics to be named. It MUST be submitted beforehand too that they will do it and what it is etc- Mostepanova did the ‘Onodi’ at 83 worlds but it was not submitted. Komova had one of her Maloney variations named for her at YOG. It also must be performed at a second FIG authorised meet as well.

      • DL Says:

        It would be awesome if she debuted the TTY at Classics…only a month away!

      • mimi Says:

        i’d be happy to see her with an amanar at classics and a TTY at nationals.. seriously, how exciting!

        it would also be incredibly exciting if biles did it too, but i have a soft spot for mckayla. i feel like it would make up for her monumental F up in vault finals.

      • mimi Says:

        “it” being her getting it named after her for competing it at worlds.

    • Gymbee Says:

      Wow! I hope that is true. Imagine the face of Mykayla Skinner.

      • katecoursey Says:

        I am LOLing at this comment.

        Sorry, but ever since Mykayla Skinner posted a photo of herself with “Best Vaulter in the World” superimposed over it, I just haven’t been able to take her seriously. Her Twitter feed is also the single most obnoxious thing I’ve ever seen.

        Also, you would think her coach would actually know the rules of elite gymnastics….there was a video interview a couple months back where the coach claimed that if Mykayla performed a double twisting double layout at Jesolo, then that skill would be named the Skinner. Anyone who’s ever read the COP will tell you that in order for a skill to be named after a gymnast, it has to be performed at Worlds or the Olympics. Jesolo is neither.

      • Gymbee Says:

        Yes, I saw the best vaulter in the world, made me laugh! Hey Skinner, look no further than your name twin and national team mate for that title ha.

      • Brouhaha Says:

        Wasn’t Skinner on the national team in 2011 but not 2012? And besides jesolo, she’s never represented the US internationally nor has she (to my knowledge) been top 10 amongst the US senior elites.

        Read her wiki page, it’s SO OBNOXIOUS. Like it implies that she actually had a chance to be selected for the 2012 Olympic Team. Um, was she even at trials ???

      • Brouhaha Says:

        Gah I’m wrong I was thinking of qualifications … Janine Berger would have medaled, and I would have liked to see Germany WAG get a medal — I love when countries other than CH/USA/ROU/RUS get on the podium

  8. nero Says:

    Psh. Ya’ll know Mack has been training the TTY. You don’t think she’d let those peasants Skinner and Biles trump her in the vaulting department did you?

    And, let’s be real, girl is going to have a septuple twisting yurchenko come 2016

    • mimi Says:

      haha the thought of a “septule twisting yurochenko” vault makes my head hurt.

    • Gymbee Says:

      I’m thinking more a Yurchenko double back!

      • katecoursey Says:

        It’s pretty obvious that Mack is capable of both a TTY and a double back yurchenko….I just so wish she could compete both! She would be totally unstoppable in any vault final. Too bad they’re from the same vaulting family….

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Well, remember she was pretty much “unstoppable” in the Olympics/London vault final (only one doing an amanar combined with the Mustafina vault, I think it was called), and looked how that turned out.

      • Gymbee Says:

        But she’ll be like ASac…. she won’t do that again! (one can only hope!)

      • katecoursey Says:

        It would be a totally different level of unstoppable, though. Other people had amanars and Mustafinas at the Olympics. She had somewhat higher difficulty than most people, but what really set her apart was execution (height/form) and relative consistency. That’s why she was considered a lock. Competing a TTY and a double back, however, would be a totally different ball game. Her difficulty would far outstrip practically everybody else in the field. She would probably have more than a full point of difficulty over most other competitors. Of course it’s all hypothetical, since she can’t actually compete both, but in that scenario she would probably take gold in every competition even if she did crash one of her vaults (not necessarily a good thing, but it’s the way the code works these days).

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I honestly hate that part of the code. A fall should constitute not being on the podium in my book. It’s akin to belly flopping on the Olympic diving board, only because you added a few twists in the air more than anyone else you get to get a medal.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        If I was running the sport a fall would equal an automatic disqualification from the competition. Like a last man standing. If you fall you are out.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I somewhat agree. If they fell on beam/bars/floor though I’d at least like for them to get back up and complete the routine. If they were “out” they probably wouldn’t bother doing that.

        I think the fall thing is just insane when it comes to vault, mostly. I’ve never seen someone fall on beam/floor/bars and come out anywhere near the podium. Yet on the vault that somehow has happened in the last TWO Olympics. Whoever gets fourth there got majorly screwed.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I stand by my if I ruled the world opinion. You fall, you are out and then maybe we wouldn’t see so many ugly skills that are too difficult for the gymnasts

      • Brouhaha Says:

        @sanity – poor Asac in 2008. As much as I love cheng fei, it’s disgraceful she could fall and still medal. Or McKayla – her fall should have been an automatic zero — I think the “landed on her feet for 0.0006 of a second” should still equal the same if she didn’t land on her feet at all: a zero.

        If. That were the case, the mighty Chusovitina would have had back to back Olympic medals in vault. I would have LOVED that

      • Brouhaha Says:

        Brouhaha Says:
        June 6, 2013 at 12:05 am
        Gah I’m wrong I was thinking of qualifications, I should not post after work when I’m brain dead… Janine Berger would have medaled, and I would have liked to see Germany WAG get a medal — I love when countries other than CH/USA/ROU/RUS get on the podium

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Me too which is probably why I really wanted Beth Tweddle to get that Gold medal on bars in 2012. It would have been a huge epic moment and if anyone deserved a shot at winning that Gold from an smaller Country it was Beth

      • katecoursey Says:

        I like both Maroney and Cheng but I agree a fall should not generally equal a medal…still, that’s the way the code works. The reason Maroney medaled is because there are so few vaulters, and because her execution is miles ahead of the others on any given day. She has the potential to push the boundaries on this event (more so than any other current gymnast), and for me, that’s one of the most exciting things about the sport. So I really hope she goes for something new.

        Janine Berger should’ve medaled. That “amanar” by Paseka was in no way fully rotated. Nellie Kim strikes again.

  9. LG Says:

    Thanks for linking to my NBC piece GTT.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      You’re welcome. Next time let me know if you have one and I will link that too

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      I wasn’t able to watch the Gymnastike BTR series because I wasn’t willing to pay for it, so I am happy that Triple Twist did a series too – funny thing is, their series was more accurate from the sounds of it (maybe given the time frame they did it in but hey – good on their part) and I actually enjoyed watching it. And even better, I didn’t have to pay for it.

      I wonder if Geddert even talks about the AA controversy anymore – I guess he just wants to “move on.” Still I’d like to know what was going on in his head when he realized Jordyn wasn’t going to be able to compete in the AA. Was he mad at himself, the judges, or the situation most? He probably would not even answer if I asked via Twitter.

      • sj0126 (@sj0126) Says:

        I think we’ll hear his answer to that once Jordyn shows up at a competition again. Something tells me NBC will definitely ask about that.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Yeah but he’ll dance around it and say something like “we move on” – which is exactly how he responded when I asked him on Twitter. Or he’ll rant about the 2 per country rule.

        The real problem is judges fixing the competitions. He won’t touch that with a 10-foot pole.

        Gabby making all of those similar mistakes and yet posting super high scores told me there was something going on behind the scenes. It was a big obvious. You take Gabby’s performances and Jo’s performances and there’s a clear difference who should have gotten that second slot in the AA.

      • Catherine Says:

        You don’t have to pay for it if you have a windows phone. The gymnastike series showed more new skills/combinations and focused more on girls who will more than likely go elite. They were at the gym more often and their series is longer so no surprise there.

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