Random Gymnastics stuff

While I was sleeping……………….

Kyla won the camp verification and the Physical abilities testing at the last camp.

Here are some pictures

The Chinese Gymnastics blog posted this picture.


Top row: Cheng Fei, Coach Liu Qunlin, Meng Fei, Coach Lu Shanzhen, Liu Xuan, Peng Sha, Zhang Nan

Bottom row: Kui Yuanyuan, Bi Wenjing, Sang Lan, ?, Yang Yilin


56 Responses to “Random Gymnastics stuff”

  1. sainabou nyang Says:

    Ive been reading about zamarippa back in the gym training a new vault. There’s supposed to be a video on her twitter or facebook of her training it. Imagine if she shows up to classics with it. Could she be our new Kayla Williams?

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      IMO, NO. She has no shot at this world team. All Kyla does is win these camps, Biles and Ebee if healthy will be locks and both will be the vault for this team. Zam is useless on every event but vault and I can’t see Marta taking her over the others.

      • sainabou nyang Says:

        Im glad to see Kyla is healthy and hopefully healed from her injury. But once again no mention of upgrades.

        Lexie and Amelia look like they grown a foot since Europe or maybe its the camera angle. Ebee looks in shape but taller. Lord this quad is going to have a lot of growth spurts.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Kyla is not upgrading floor and Marta told her to keep this floor music and then Marta gives her scores enough to win these meets at camp. I don’t trust Marta and just see ulterior motives for all this Kyla love.

        She knows the real judges are not going to give her these scores yet she keeps giving her them at her secret BS camp. I am probably paranoid but I feel like she is setting Kyla up to fail

      • Sara Says:

        Maybe I’m wrong, but I feel like Marta is encouraging Kyla so much just to use her as a safety on bars until she finds enough girls who are more than decent on bars. Bars are going to matter a lot more this quad than they did last, and Marta can’t go around throwing good bar workers away. But again, I’m probably completely off base. I just can’t figure out WHY she is stringing Kyla along like this..

  2. sanitynmotion Says:

    Kyla’s already gone through her growth spurt, so now is the time to add harder skills. I think she’s 5’5 – she looks a bit (tiny bit) shorter than Marta unless it’s Marta’s poof hair that’s making me think that.

    The US is too strong in vault to waste a Worlds spot on a single vaulter – what about that McKayla Skinner girl? Is she in this? She’s the one who was bragging she’s the best vaulter in the world or something like that, right?

    If Biles and Ebee are locks, then Kyla really needs to up her ante if Katelyn is going to be healthy by then.

    Amelia is looking really tall. She had a total growth spurt – taller than Kyla now!

    I don’t know where Brenna Dowell would fit in – but you never know. She’s one of those silent creeper types that you never know is there until you’re at the competition.

    • Gymbee Says:

      Hahaha sanity you always make me laugh 😀 “silent creeper types” thats what I was thinking when seeing the photos from the camp on facebook. Like “wow, where did she come from”.

    • Biyatch Says:

      there is a MAJOR problem if brenna ends up on the us 4 person world team

      • exgymgurl Says:

        Brenna on the world team as Payback for GAGE taking Sabrina on after that debacle? Funny that I dont see her in lineup pics, but she looked to be in the one where Polina gets a medal. I think this worlds is EBee, Biles, Ross, and some other lucky person…..probably Ernst. or even possibly Dowell / Skinner It keeps Zmeskal, Fong, and the Parkettes happy. Biles and Ross are so good they cant be ignored.

      • mimi Says:

        cant count out jordyn if she’s seriously training! even if she isnt martha’s pet.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Yeah if Jordyn comes back like I think she will/can, I see it being her and Biles duking it out in the AA, and Biles being there for vault as well. Jordyn would compete on floor (and beam if Geddert got his head out of his arse) and this would leave room for two more. Ebee? Although I see her as more of an AA/Vault than any specialist (and Biles has that covered). Kyla could be the bars/beam specialist but I don’t see her getting any golds (maybe bronze on beam or silver if someone falls). If Ohashi is out then that would be Kyla’s chance; if Ohashi is back I see Ohashi taking that spot over Kyla.

        What happened to Finnegan? Is she that badly injured? Seems like she’s been out forever.

      • Uglyfatkid Says:

        Amen Sanity! Jo is in the AA in my books, but I don’t know who the other person will be at this point (Biles, Ross, or EBee). My guess is also Biles.

        I can’t freakin’ wait until Classics. Why the hell does it have to be so far away?

  3. exgymgurl Says:

    Or Marta knows something that we dont: Maybe judging internationally with the new COP is going to hammer more on artistry. Look at how well a ponor and an Izbasa were awarded in London. Also she / team Kyla may be holding back on upgrades to protect her body until shes done growing. Injuries druing growth spurts like the one we all know Kyla is in right now can end careers. Better to keep Kyla where she is at and protect her for NCAA / future olympics and have her compete what she can now.

  4. exgymgurl Says:

    Sanity you dont know that Kylas done growing. Her parents are both very tall. Every time I see her she looks taller. If I didnt know better Id say Martas strategy for this quad was to have everyone grow now and that way its not a situation like Nastia where its close to or within a year and a half of the olympics. Because EBee has grown a ton also. And until the growth plates fully harden you can keep growing. Id love to know what size their feet are because that would tell us a lot in terms of probable adult height. Im wondering why no one is really talking about any of this either, or if the coverage will at Classics / Nationals. It seemed like all we heard about was Nastias growth spurt in 2006. All of the seniors are huge compared to the last two quads. This will be very interesting to see what happens, because wow….

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      You’re right – I was wishful thinking Kyla was done growing, because I’d love to see her continue to succeed in elite gymnastics in the US. And I’m impatient, lol.

      Honestly I hope the new code deducts more for artistry but I always feel like putting “artistry” in the mix leads to a ton of bias. That’s why I wish compulsories were still part of the big meets – everyone does the same thing, it really eliminates bias.

      Nastia’s growth spurt was really weird – like her face looked completely different even! Hers happened more fast than gradual, maybe that was why it was such a talked about thing. Kyla has been growing the entire past year it seems, but it just seems a bit more gradual. Her growth since London is mostly in her legs, and everything else (including her face) look the same still.

      I’m curious as to why Gabby’s face looked so different last I saw her on TV and wonder how much she has grown as well. Oh wait, is it May? Isn’t she back training now? Haha.

      I think you make a good point though – seems like all the seniors and even some of the juniors are either going through growth spurts or look like they’re on the verge of one. I can’t help but think that girl Laurie Hernandez and even Bailey Key will be going through them too, big time.

      Yeah Kyla’s parents are tall. I think her dad is over 6’3″ and her mom is like 5’8″…

      • exgymgurl Says:

        Well… if we were a romanian system and the technology existed to get everyone through puberty / growth spurts now would be the time to do it. Thats all Im going to say…. I was shocked by how tall Ebee has gotten, but all of them have put on height….It may be coincidence.

      • mimi Says:

        wasnt there some strange conspiracy theory on here not even that long ago about growth hormones (or something to that effect) and nastia.. i.e. getting the growth spurt timed and out of the way in the ‘right’ point in time of the quad? hmm…. 😉

        though personally i think these girls are all growing because they’re HEALTHY. at least from the outside they arent malnourished and they dont seem to be hating life. who knows what it’s really like but that’s my impression.

    • sainabou nyang Says:

      So you noticed ebee looking like shes 5ft 7 too? This quad is going to have a lot of tall gymnast. Its like everyone is growing at the same time.

      • exgymgurl Says:

        How can you miss (lexie or amelia, sorry cant tell them apart) Kyla and Ebee being so much taller and everyone else looking taller as well??? I wonder with Ohashis shoulder how much she will grow right now… and How can anyone miss Kyla getting her medal and being the same height as Marta when Nastia at trials last year at 5’3″ only comes to Martas nose? Yes they are all growing at the same time, and everyone chill on the upgrades. Aly didnt compete most of her upgrades until 2011, Jordyn competed the same routines for four years…. and Gabby only in 2011 / and some additions in 2012. Look who that worked out best for. Even if Gabby hasnt grown, her body and her face have completely changed….

        I dont know whats going on but this whole group of elites is more averaging around 5’3 than 5’0 already…. maybe its just nutrition and genetics in america are changing the talent pool…

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Aly and Gabby didn’t compete with full upgrades until 2011, true, but their “base” beforehand was still well ahead of where Kyla is now. Meaning their D scores were still relatively high.

        Honestly Kyla is not at all competitive on the world stage with her current skill set. If she’s winning the physical abilities test at camp every time yet still doesn’t have enough stamina to compete a floor routine with upgrades (or something higher than a 5.3 D score) then I really question her longevity at this level.

        Kyla no longer has her amanar, so that’s an automatic half-point cushion for anyone with one. Her bars are clean and lovely but her D score is still far behind any of the Russians or Chinese. Remember she didn’t even make bar finals at the Olympics and it wasn’t because of the two-per-country rule. Musty will likely have at least a half point edge on her with bars alone in the AA. Kyla’s beam is also clean but this code of points rewards the D score more so than execution. A double tuck dismount is not going to hold a candle to the Chinese and Romanians. And floor…well, a 5.3 is Sabrina Vega territory, basically. In order for Kyla to get a gold medal in an AA competition (because really it would be nearly impossible for her to score gold on bars or beam unless other people mess up) other people would have to screw up big time. Musty would have to fall off beam twice (again). I don’t think that’s going to happen.

        Honestly if Kyla doesn’t upgrade floor I don’t see the point in taking her to worlds this year. I don’t think she’ll be competitive enough. This code just doesn’t reward execution enough – it rewards chucking harder skills, as we’ve all seen.

        I am thinking Kyla’s body just can’t handle the harder skills anymore because of her height and her continued growth spurt. She might be facing reality and looking at college instead. She’d be a lovely NCAA gymnast but it would be sad to see her go there. I want her to have a longer elite career with USAG but her body might be stopping her.

      • mimi Says:

        personally i think this current generation of gymnasts are probably healthier and happier, and their bodies are growing the way they are supposed to at that age.

        gymnasts looks normal in leos but in regular clothes look like dwarves a lot of the time! at least kyla, amelia and ebee will look fabulous being that bit taller in real life and not have their clothes swallow them.

      • Catherine Says:

        I agree with your full post Sanity but just the reason why Kyla did not make bars finals is because she whacked her feet off the bar in prelims, big deduction. She would have otherwise, especially since some high scoring routines had falls in prelims.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I heard this but I never saw it and then Kyla did not score that well in team finals so I am wondering how much that foot touch on the bar really cost her.

      • sainabou nyang Says:

        Sanity you make a good point about Kyla and her endurance. Even with her new height is there ant reason why she cant throw in 2.5 or triple twist? I believe Kyla is full capable of doing more front entrys on floor like a double front. Hell I’m not an expert on the COP but Ive been able to figure out what some moves are suitable for a gymnast depending on height and size.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Yeah I know what you mean. Kyla is very capable of doing an awesome double Arabian on floor so I also wonder why she doesn’t use that as her beam dismount (like Aly). That would be an awesome upgrade. But what do I know, haha.

  5. exgymgurl Says:

    Shhayla is in the progymnastics challenge. I guess Christa Tanella is not available. In any case, she must still love Nastia, as she posted a pic of Nastia in an Ed Hardy Tshirt from 2008 on her twitter

  6. NG Says:

    I remember Kyla saying in an interveiw after the Europe trip she had upgrades on floor but did not have the stamina to complete them. Is Martha saying no to those interviews as well?

    • NG Says:

      ** interviews = upgrades (distracted typing)

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Yes, I forget where I heard it but Kyla will not upgrade floor this year. Tragic really

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        That sucks. That’s really what’s holding her back more than anything else.

    • surfergirl Says:

      Kyla did not have the stamina on the European tour because she had been injured and had not been practicing floor in order to avoid further injury. That was then. I think lots of misinformation going on right now. Kyla’s mom is not 5’8! LOL I think she wishes she was that tall. Don’t we all? I think she appears taller because of good posture and long legs. Oh, I don’t think Kyla’s dad is 6’3 either. Hmm, who says Kyla isn’t upgrading floor? We don’t know what’s happening in the gym, do we???? (Can’t always believe gymspies, can we now.) Just because she is not showing upgrades doesn’t mean she isn’t working on them. Just a thought. Also, Marta not allowing Kyla to change her floor music? Really? Who’s the source here? Sound bizzare to me.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Her dad isn’t 6’3″ – try 6’5″!


        I would guess her mom is at least 5’5″ – she looks about a foot shorter than her dad in pictures.

      • Surfergirl Says:

        I meant to say Kyla didn’t have the stamina during the American cup. I think she proved she is on the mend on the European tour. I think Kyla is very much in the World Cup mix and shouldn’t be counted out just yet!

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I know for a fact she had upgrades and was hitting them a few months ago. I also know for a fact her heel injury was worse then reported.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I believe you GTT which makes this more frustrating. If she was hitting upgrades WITH a really bad injury, then why not use those upgrades after you are healed? Especially when you’re doing pretty well otherwise and could have a really good chance at a World AA title?

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Floor music info came from GGMB and they haven’t been wrong yet. Marta told her to keep her music

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Gawd, anything Marta says “do” I immediately think she’s out to screw whoever she’s saying that to.

  7. Biyatch Says:

    I was randomly thinking about it early but I wonder if Aly makes a comeback and Marta tries to screw her ASac style, if she would consider competing for Israel. Tons of Jewish American athletes do it and if Aly loses her favorite status it could be an option for her.

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      I hope if Marta tries to screw her ASac style she’ll expose Marta for what she really is.

      I know it won’t happen, but I can hope. 🙂

    • exgymgurl Says:

      Aly would have to sit out international competition for a few years and take Israeli citizenship meaning military service. Although that takes on a different meaning when you are gold medalist Aly Raisman. She could do it now, and just say as a person of faith its important to her, train under Mihai and leave Marta out of it. Come to worlds in 2015 as an individual competitor, and go from there… She wouldnt have the politicing of USA gymnastics and Steve Penny backing her…. that would be a shame…

    • Catherine Says:

      That would be awesome though the process takes a while. I think I’d die happy if Maroney already has an Irish passport and declares for them whenever she’s ready. I don’t know if she’s 1/2 or 1/4 or what. Chuso could give her tips. But it tends to work for other athletes and the US is so ridiculously deep that I’d love to see anyone who can take advantage of dual citizenship. Finnegan, Ross, Hernandez and Shchennikova come to mind.

      • mimi Says:

        what background is sarah’s mother, is she a filippina? her and kyla can go compete for the philippines. it’s half a worlds team that’s actually competitive 😉

      • Catherine Says:

        She has a completely Irish surname and looks to have some Irish in her. I don’t know about her mother though. Of course, it may be from an 1800’s connection and be way too far out lol so probably easier to go the mother’s route if possible.

      • hurms22 Says:

        Finnegan’s sister Hannah competed for the Phillipines.

  8. nero Says:

    Jordyn looking good, doing skills. 2.5 twist and an amanar possibly????

    Go for the Amanar Jo! And the Weiler full! And a double layout! AND GO FOR RIO!!!


    • sanitynmotion Says:

      You can tell here she’s not in her “peak” shape yet, yet she’s got all her skills back and she’s already very strong.

      Dang – look out here she comes!

      I’m glad she didn’t just throw in the towel. She’s way too talented for that. She might not be as dynamic or artistic as other gymnasts but she’s pretty dang fierce I must say.

      This will be exciting. Gawd, I hope she does not get injured.

      • nero Says:

        I’m starting a prayer circle for Jordyn if anyone wants to join.

        “Dear Gym Gods, please leteth our deareth Jordyn stay healthy. Let thy gymnast remain her fiercest and kick asseth at thy matches. And summon her coaches for reliable beam connections.

    • sportsfan Says:

      I am just excited that she’s back in there kicking ass.

  9. GymMom Says:

    Ha ha Martha Stewart was sitting with Gabby backstage at the Today Show a few days ago.
    Martha Stewart: “Who are you?” Answer: “I’m Gabby.” Still no recognition. Someone later told Martha who she was.

    This is hilarious!!!


  10. JAS4 Says:

    I really hope Jordyn can get in competition shape and be a threat for major competitions this summer!

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