Russian Championships and more

Karin Lichey’s perfect score of 40 was named, Stegeman Coliseum’s Greatest Moment.

Beth gets a 10 and goes into the semi finals

The article where Mckayla says she is too busy but was asked to do DWTS.

Article before the American Cup.
After the American Cup article.

First 90 minutes of the American cup from USA-gymnastics.

Mustafina won the Russian Championships with impressive scoring. Tatiana Nabieva is still training (who knew?)

Mustafina on Uneven bars and on Floor

From IG.

Women’s All-Around VT UB BB FX Total
1. Aliya Mustafina Moscow 15.300 15.500 15.450 13.600 59.850
2. Anastasia Grishina Moscow 14.900 15.000 14.900 12.600 57.400
3. Yevgenia Shelgunova Central/Volga 14.750 13.950 14.950 13.600 57.250
4. Ksenia Afanasyeva Central 15.200 13.450 13.850 14.350 56.850
5. Kristina Goryunova Northwest 14.150 13.750 14.600 13.450 55.950
6. Anna Dementyeva Central/Volga 14.050 14.800 13.700 12.850 55.400
7. Anna Pavlova Central 14.900 12.650 13.850 13.050 54.450
8. Yekaterina Kramarenko St. Petersburg 14.450 13.150 13.900 12.750 54.250
9. Alla Sosnitskaya Moscow 14.700 14.000 12.650 12.650 54.000
10. Polina Fyodorova Volga 13.950 12.700 13.900 13.050 53.600
11. Olga Bikmurzina Volga 14.350 12.900 13.150 12.400 52.800
12. Alyona Polyan Volga 14.150 11.050 13.500 13.850 52.550
13. Yekaterina Baturina Southern 13.500 12.400 12.850 12.600 51.350
14. Lilia Akhaimova St. Petersburg 13.850 11.950 12.550 12.550 50.900
15. Maria Smirnova Volga 14.350 10.850 12.250 13.000 50.450
16. Marina Nekrasova Central 13.900 11.100 12.600 12.250 49.850
17. Anna Myzdrikova Moscow 14.100 11.200 12.300 12.100 49.700
18. Anastasia Cheong St. Petersburg 13.800 10.550 12.800 12.300 49.450
19. Maria Nechayeva Siberia 13.100 11.650 12.500 11.950 49.200
20. Kristina Kruglikova Central 14.350 11.600 11.900 11.250 49.100
21. Maria Dunayeva St. Petersburg/Northwest 13.450 10.950 12.400 12.250 49.050
22. Yuna Nefedova Central 13.450 11.950 11.900 11.250 48.550
23. Anastasia Osetrova Southern 13.900 11.850 11.950 10.850 48.550
24. Daria Anishina Northwest 14.050 11.550 10.400 12.400 48.400
25. Tatiana Kirilova Northwest 12.800 12.050 12.200 11.000 48.050
26. Eleonora Goryunova Northwest 14.100 9.950 11.400 12.450 47.900
27. Alla Sidorenko St. Petersburg 12.950 10.550 11.900 12.200 47.600
28. Yulia Chemaryova Central 13.000 10.200 11.800 12.550 47.550
29. Irina Yashina Volga 12.700 13.000 10.250 11.550 47.500
30. Maria Silyukova Volga 12.950 10.800 11.200 12.300 47.250
31. Anna Vanyushkina Northwest 13.500 10.350 10.950 12.200 47.000
32. Viktoria Shmidt Volga 12.550 9.250 12.250 12.450 46.500
33. Natalia Medvedeva Southern 13.450 9.550 10.900 12.500 46.400
34. Irina Voropayeva Central 13.700 8.600 11.550 12.450 46.300
35. Yekaterina Shtronda Siberia 11.900 10.800 12.450 10.550 45.700
36. Nailya Mustafina Moscow 12.900 7.900 12.300 12.000 45.100
37. Irina Andreyeva Southern 13.450 8.100 11.150 11.950 44.650
38. Diana Ravdina St. Petersburg 14.150 8.050 10.550 11.850 44.600
39. Olga Tyo Siberia 12.250 9.150 12.200 10.600 44.200
40. Anna Solomeina South 12.950 8.950 11.400 10.250 43.550
41. Yekaterina Tsvetkova Central 14.050 8.100 10.350 10.850 43.350
42. Francheska Yanayeva South 13.650 7.650 9.700 12.050 43.050
43. Maria Popova South 12.800 7.700 10.650 9.850 41.000
44. Yelena Klyuchkova Southern 11.900 9.450 9.200 10.300 40.850
45. Valeria Golenischeva Southern 10.100 9.450 9.900 11.150 40.600
46. Yelena Tyapkova South 12.700 8.350 8.350 10.050 39.450
47. Anastasia Marchuk Moscow 13.350 12.450 12.550 38.350
48. Anastasia Kuznetsova South 12.400 7.400 7.400 10.600 37.800
49. Maria Paseka Moscow 15.250 14.100 29.350
50. Tatiana Nabiyeva St. Petersburg 14.250 13.900 28.150
51. Kristina Sidorova Volga 7.900 11.850 19.750

79 Responses to “Russian Championships and more”

  1. Kazic Says:

    I actually stayed up to watch some of it. Saw Paseka, Afan, Shelgunova and Aliya on bars. Pretty excited for shelgunova. She’s got potential.

    Aww gtt don’t spit on my Nabs like that. I heard she’s finally back in full training. I have a feeling she’ll make it to Euros. The russians have few qualified individuals. Depth is their major issue currently. We’ll see.

    I am planning to watch the team comps taking place early tomorrow morning. We’ll see how it goes.

  2. katecoursey Says:

    Dude. Go Aliya. She’s a tough one, that’s for sure….her helicopter legs will always bother me, but overall I really like her. Hope she sticks around.

    • katecoursey Says:

      Also, I love her split jump onodi double spin combo. Not something you see every day, that’s for sure.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Her bars were amazing but her beam was a mess. She isn’t getting credit for most of her leaps. they were way off degree

      • Kazic Says:

        They were indeed. Very happy to see that she has fully come back including on beam. She’s something else, that kid is.

        I felt Grishina was overscored. She kinda didn’t seem like she wanted to be there and had several major issues on floor. The rest of her meet was great though. Her bars were good too, though no one seems to do it like Mustafina.

      • katecoursey Says:

        I really liked her beam, but I wasn’t paying close attention to the leaps. She has some really unique connections.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        The one leap I paused mid-air (it was the split leap before her onodi) looked 180 to me; the others looked questionable. I do like her combinations – they are unique – but she was pausing A LOT so I doubt most of the combinations got credit. Or at least they shouldn’t have.

        I love Mustafina. She is 5’4″ and uses every inch to show grace. Besides the helicopter legs.

        And it is SO REFRESHING not to see PINK. I love the blue leos. Go, Russia!

        P.S. does anyone have video of her doing the bars?

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Her wolf jump was not complete her leg fell down before she tried to connect it.

      • Kazic Says:

        Sanity there are yt vids of her bars. that person has a lot of videos of the meet.

    • DL Says:

      She makes bars look effortless, but ugh, her legs on the twists on floor (which I think has a lot of potential–parts of the routine had a lightness to it that is lovely).

    • GymAnon Says:

      I really like Aliya’s beam. No doubt she’ll clean up the connections as the quad progresses. Floor was … what it was, usual form issues and some recycled choreo I think, but I’m happy to see her back. And bars of course … Sanity, here’s the video.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Thank you!
        I was really quite sad/bothered when Musty got injured at Euros before the Olympics; I was really hoping she’d be able to kill it in London. However she really defied the odds and showed the only positive side of having this injury – via being “forced” to work really hard on the one event that’s not so jarring to the knees. Her bars improved a thousand fold even though they weren’t even her weakest event to start with; I was so happy to see that. I still think nobody does it like her…

        I mean, Nastia can’t hold a candle to Musty’s bars. The only positive side to seeing Nastia make that team would be to see her a$$ being creamed in that bars competition. Her ego needs to go.

      • GymAnon Says:

        Of Russian’s bar workers, I should probably prefer Komova and her fantastic lines, but I favor Musty. Can’t put my finger on it; just love her style. Though it would have been nice for Tweddle to have gotten silver or gold in front of that home crowd, I’m glad it was Mustafina. Love a good comeback story. And I think she’ll still be a force to be reckoned with this quad and in Rio.

        I assume you’re talking Liukin, not Grishina, haha. If Nastia had made it to London, that event final would certainly have been something to see.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Totally talking about Liukin.🙂

        I see what you mean about Komova but Musty just has impeccable form and style. I dunno, from the moment I saw her I was a fan.🙂

  3. tulip Says:

    Lots of interesting names here… Pavolva? Really? Plus #36- little Mustafina.

    Thanks for the post.

    Curious for everyone’s opinion on the new code. Will it benefit the Russians? I sort of see it being a big plus for their bars, as well as the Chinese.

    • Catherine Says:

      Pavlova has already competed several times this year. She just isn’t on the national team, but the less useful Myzdrikova, Kramarenko and Belo are. She will be a favourite for the vault title but none of her other events are up to scratch. Inshina and Sidorova are injured as well as Komova so that bumped up her placing.

      Nailya only trains recreationally, she never fully got over her injury..either physically or mentally, not sure which. She’s not on the national team either.

      I think the euros team will be Mustafina, Grishina, Afan and maybe Demy if she redeems herself in the next few competitions. Nabieva is slated to make the Universiade team.

      • Kazic Says:

        Pavs is off the team not because of ability, but politics.

      • GymAnon Says:

        What happened with Pavlova to get her blacklisted? She can’t put in the numbers or D scores that the younger girls can but she’s still reliable, isn’t she?

      • Kazic Says:

        She ran afoul of Valentina. As did demy. She has a history of holding a grudge. Look at what she tried to do to musty.

      • Catherine Says:

        Yes I know, just saying she’s not on the NT. She crashed in Beijing and she isn’t reliable- she’s okay in smaller meets but they would never risk her in a big meet where it would reflect on the team and Round Lake. There is definitely a grudge against her.

      • Kazic Says:

        I don’t think it’s as simple as it being a matter of consistency Cat. I love me some Nabs, but historically she’s been very inconsistent, but Russia kept taking her.

        Snd I wasn’t aiming the talk about Valentina as you, I figured you knew that, it was for the anon above me.

      • mimi Says:

        i love that pav doesn’t give up despite the politics. i wonder what the other girls think of her though.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        She’s like a Russian Memmel…

      • Kazic Says:

        Mimi she’s not a threat so they probably feel a little bad for her. I wonder if she’s shunned at all. I’ll never forget the way mustafina was treated at 2012 euros ;_; I hope pavs gets better treatment.

      • Catherine Says:

        Ah yeah but I think it plays a part, not being able to trust her in major competition. Nice to see her with the team gold medal.

  4. JAS4 Says:

    I wonder if Komova will be able to make it back in time for Worlds this year? If the injury is more serious she would do better to take it easy this year and be in shape for next year though.

  5. Catherine Says:

    Apparently Aliya nailed her beam connections today, excellent. She did not do floor. Demy fell again, damn. I was really hoping for consistency from her. Shelgunova’s form is not impressing, was also hoping she would have improved it. Thinking the team will be Musty, Grishina, Afan/Shelgunova and Paseka- who landed an amanar today.

    • Kazic Says:

      Wh9 said that? I was watching and she didn’t lol. I’m still hoping nabs can sneak onto the team.

      • Catherine Says:

        IG and twitter people. I just watched the video and they are much snappier than yesterday. Love the Onodi-double turn, fabulous. They are using inflated scores for strong routines. Paseka scored 15.75 for her amanar for instance- higher than Simone’s. Though word is it’s better than it was in London.

      • GymAnon Says:

        Here’s her amanar–better landing, but 15.75 is beyond laughable.

      • Kazic Says:

        Cat her beam was better than yesterday but I would say she still needs to work on the connections.

        Anon the idea that Paseka is considered a viable candidate for their “a” team is laughable to me. No offense to any beefarm fans that may be about.

      • Catherine Says:

        Looks like a bonus system. Mustafina’s AA score was 59 something for instance, with an unconnected beam, weak floor and watered down bars.

      • Kazic Says:

        What do you mean Cat? They were lenient in scoring.

  6. Biyatch Says:

    • Catherine Says:

      Ha McKayla loves her beverages! That’s odd though- That was Chellsie’s. Maybe she’s ditched all her endorsements in the run up to her wedding..

      • Case Says:

        I doubt Chellsie ditched any endorsements voluntarily. Snapple may have moved on after she retired.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I wonder if your endorsements dry out after a time period…like a year after you sign on they decide whether or not they want to keep you? I’m sure Chellsie can’t continue being endorsed when she’s retired and really isn’t tied with the sport any longer.

        Although is she a judge now?

      • GymMom Says:

        It’s not a new endorsement for McKayla. 7UP is under the Snapple umbrella. She was promoting that last week.

      • Catherine Says:

        Yeah I was just kinda hoping she wasn’t ditched against her will.

        Ahh didn’t know that, 7up isn’t like that here.

  7. sanitynmotion Says:

    And I have to add – Musty needs to work on her floor pausing. There was all sorts of hanging out on those corners. There were parts where she’d disguise it by waving her arms around but even after the “dance/arm wavy thing” she would still sit there and take a huge breath or two.

    • Catherine Says:

      She never really goes all out in meets like this. There’s no need yet. I bet her floor will be much improved at Euros though not completely there. She adjusted to the new switch ring rule and new beam connections which were much faster today than yesterday so I’m sure she’ll scrap the pauses and sell her choreography more.

    • Kazic Says:

      She’s always been a pauser though. But yeah this was just practice for her.

      • Catherine Says:

        Well yeah but she’ll have to pause more creatively near the corner now to avoid deduction. Fascinating to see the workarounds at American cup…I definitely prefer how it looks.

      • Kazic Says:

        Does the new cop take extra care for idleness?

      • icemeltsfast Says:

        @ Kazic: you just can’t stand still on TWO feet before a tumbling pass. -0.1. Loopholes: standing on one leg (a la Alexeeva) or just standing and catching their breaths NEAR the corner. Honestly, we all know that this rule was MADE for Aliya, as much as I love her… (=

        Also, like beam, excessive preparations for elements is -0.1… 2 seconds max. I hope judges really follow this strictly. I can’t stand the freezing before spins, lol.

      • Kazic Says:

        Ice, definitely made for her lolol. She’s famous for standing in the corner forever, trying to catch her breath lolol.

  8. GymMom Says:

    Didn’t see any AC. Thanks for all the videos and commentary from everyone. I felt like I was there.

  9. Exgymgurl Says:

    The last interview post olympics i saw with aliya and her family was that nailya was only training recreationally yet shes at championships, and not training more than US level 10. Go baby Mustafina!!!

    • Exgymgurl Says:

      And I think Khorkina originated hot pink leos in event finals at 1997 worlds. Nastia is just a copy cat. The US gymnasts should stop trying to make everyone think they are baby Khorkinas😉 LOL

    • Kazic Says:

      She’s quitting soon unfortunately. She’s personally confirmed it.

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        Thats what i had remembered. Maybe she just competed with her club then? Nailya said she was only doing it for fun and was going to some university for sports or something I thought. I know aliya wants another olympics. Her dad won many times wrestling for russia and she has often spoke of that.

      • Kazic Says:

        I actually think that as of this meet she is finished. She’s a pretty honest kid, and she’s mentioned several times that it’s a bit hard being the “other” Mustafina sister. And that’s totally easy to understand. She obviously loves her older sibling, but that is one hell of a shadow to have to stand in all the time, even just in recreational gym. She’s probably ready to move on and carve out a niche for herself. Her sister kinda has the gymnastics portion covered😉

      • Kazic Says:

        And yes Aliya is after another OG. There is likely room on their 2016 team for one or two veterans, considering Russia’s current lack of depth. As long as she stays healthy and still wants it, I see no reason why she wouldn’t be on that team.

  10. exgymgurl Says:

    any guess on how much Kylas grown? And why no one asked her about it since the olymics?

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      It’s probably the elephant in the room. Nobody wants that to be brought up, right? Growth spurt is akin to a death knell in gymnastics, from what I’ve been told.

      Although as we’ve seen many have been able to deal with it in stride. Even Mustafina is probably Kyla’s height – maybe a bit shorter – but she had a huge growth spurt between 2009 and 2012 and she may have lost her amanar but she’s more than made up for it on bars. Kyla needs to do that as well – and both of them probably need to up the difficulty on floor.

    • Catherine Says:

      2 inches, maybe 3. I would think she is 5’4 now at least. I am 5’3 and she is definitely taller than me now. Her height can’t have been only a tiny tiny fraction or it wouldn’t be so noticeable, so would nearly have to be 2 inches.

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        Shes nearly as tall as her coach or looked to be on the “hug” at the end of beam. GTT do you have any insight? If theres a shot of her standing straight next to the beam or touching it we could easily extrapolate.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Kyla is at least 1 foot taller than Katelyn. She is a lot taller and I would say skinnier too.

      • exgymgurl Says:

        If Katelyn is 4’6″ as her biography suggests than Kyla is 5’6″ at least. And it looked like it was mostly legs. She does look thin compared to Katelyn. Especially when the three were warming up. This is the first time I have heard her in interviews mention California colleges for gymnastics and how expensive college is. Shes looking at Stanford or UCLA which is smart because even at 5’6″ or 5’7″ she could definitely do all that she needed to in college.

        Redefining her skills for Rio would be more of a challenge. Remember in 1997 EF for beam when Khorkinas toes almost touched the ground on a leg swing because her legs were so long with her toe point?

        It would be interesting to see an elite in this quad compete like Izbasa did and she really does have a similar body type to Izbasas in terms of slight and build. I know that the camera adds weight but Kyla looked thin on my TV.

        I know UCLA had a gymnast who was 5’9″ and never competed but her parents were known for flying Val around in their private jet. She would also make an awesome diver. I would almost vote for her to take up diving as opposed to continuing gymnastics. Can you imagine her medaling in diving also? Thats marketable, especially with her line on bars…. shed be a great diver.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Kyla is slightly taller than her coach in the pictures I have looked at. I would say she is 11 inches taller than Katelyn.

        She has grown because she is very skinny in person which is not what I would say about any of these other gymnasts. Victoria Moors looks great in pictures but in person she looked chunky for a gymnast. She is very bulky in the arms. She kind of looks like she is on steroids.

        Ferrari also looked chunky for a gymnast in person.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I actually wonder why more retired elites don’t turn to diving. Seems a natural progression. AND a good opp for a college scholarship all the same.

        I hope Kyla can make it to Rio though.

        I don’t remember the leg swing; that’s really interesting I’ll have to look that one up!

      • exgymgurl Says:

        That still puts her between 5’5″ and 5’7″. Im honestly thinking Ohashis bio and height are not up to date. I dont think USAG has updated any of it since before the olympics. I would bet it gets updated before worlds. It looked to me when they were all bent over that most of Kylas height is in her legs which means she may have a few more inches left. She looks like A Khorkina / Izbasa body type now more than ever and she looked beautiful on beam.

      • mimi Says:

        kyla’s height might be bad for gymnastics but she’s gorgeous, it really suits her. i know it’s weird but i think outside of gymnastics (where the shorties look how they’re supposed to) all the girls look so strange being little and bulky in normal/everyday clothes.

        she’s got time to adjust to her height, and if rio doesn’t happen she’s got college and would be fine. but i want her to go to another olympics!

  11. sainabou nyang Says:

    This was too funny. The sad thing was this was a parent acting like a nut case.

    • exgymgurl Says:

      thank you that was amazing…. i love the obstacle course description…..

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Yes thank you…so funny to hear about the Kellogg’s course. I love Shannon Miller; I would have freaked out too!

    • Catherine Says:

      A parent? Would have said 13 until she said ‘only people over 14’. Very funny though I found it sad she thought Victoria’s dismount was a mistake. And that Katelyns passes were so impressive..nothing mentioned about Simones which is odd ha.

  12. tortuga Says:

    Is McKayla supposed to be on Jimmy Kimmel Friday night? Maybe just a segment?

    • nero Says:

      Mack is looking good! Maybe just a funny segment with Guillermo but Jimmy Kimmel tapes in LA, so who knows maybe she’ll be on the show!

      What about this pic from Jordyn?

      I love her tattoo. I hope to see some of the other pictures he took. And Jo is going to be in Denver on Saturday, so close! But the meet is all sold out, boooo!

    • GymMom Says:

      Yes she is going to show Jimmy’s sidekick security guard how to do some gymnastics moves. McKayla is on the CW’s Hart of Dixie again also.

  13. terrigymfan Says:

    Glad to see McKayla didn’t take the DWTS’ bait. Definitely a sign she is at least somewhat serious about pursuing her gymnastics career. I know Aly claims she will get back into gymnastics after DWTS but I don’t think it will ever happen. She might try one of those “comebacks” like ASac but I think it will be too late. I think that Aly feels deep down that she accomplished more than she ever thought she would at the Olympics, and more than she ever will, and therefore probably doesn’t have the inner fire for gymnastics. McKayla on the other hand feels she still has even better days ahead in gymnastics and still has that inner fire.

    Plus I think it was you Sanity who said DWTS is probably not good for a serious acting career. McKayla actually has a pretty good plan IMO for what she wants to do: Pursue gymnastics seriously through the end of this quad while dabbling in acting a little on the side. Afterwards start pursuing acting seriously. IMO she should do that by going to one of those premier drama programs at USC or UCLA or NYU. She says she wants to go to college so hopefully that is her plan.

    • Biyatch Says:

      Maybe its wishful thinking but I actually believe Aly is going to come back. I think shes liking all the attention/endorsements but she doesnt seem as naturally comfortable in those settings as she did in the gym. Maybe I’m wrong and shell go off to college and try being normal but who knows. Alicia took a full year off and came back better then 2008. If she didnt rupture her achilles I think she would have had a very good shot at McKayla’s spot on the team especially with all the rumored upgrades and floor. Mihai was able to convince Alicia to come back after 2004, 2008 and 2011 achilles snapper, I think he could convince Aly.

      McKayla is going to step it up because even with how amazing her vault is with so many of the juniors doing amanars plus adding a second vault she needs to get more consistent on the other events.

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      I lean towards what Terri is saying when it comes to Aly (that she has accomplished more than she ever felt possible and probably is unlikely to do it again, just given the talent out there) but I do think she will make an attempt. Since she made an official announcement and all. She can’t really go back.

      Aly is less prone to injury than ASac too so that’s in her favor.

      The biggest thing in Aly’s favor is her competition mentality. She can be counted on to hit more often than not (except when she’s competing for the AA, lol). She was super consistent and Marta loved that. Plus, she is a team leader in a good way and a positive force (whereas ASac kind of faked the whole “leader” thing and was more prone to forming “cliques.”)

      I just feel awful for the whole sport that only 5 girls make it to the Olympics. I have to wonder if Marta will stick to the last quad mentality of out with the old, in with the new.

  14. Kelly Says:

    They sure do have a variety of names- if my counting is correct, there are 6 Maria’s, 5 Anastasia’s, and 5 Anna’s among just 51 girls.

  15. laurensy Says:

    Is Maxim Devyatovsky still training?

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Not sure. I thought I read he was but all Russian names sound alike to me.

      I think that is the guy I saw win the American Cup in 2010.

      I am still and Russia and Romania keep pulling out of scams. I want to see

      • laurensy Says:

        I don’t remember the source, but there was something a while ago about how he wasn’t listening to the coaches, doing his own thing, etc.

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