Do you know the Pledge of Allegiance?

Rocco does. I expect nothing less from a son of Shannon Millers:)



27 Responses to “Do you know the Pledge of Allegiance?”

  1. JAS4 Says:

    That is too cute!

  2. Catherine Says:

    What a cutiepie! I cannot imagine having a pledge of allegiance..has there ever been any serious move to remove it?

    • terrigymfan Says:

      Not really. Occasionally some people make a stink about having “under God” in it but those movements don’t get much steam.

    • gymglitterxx Says:

      Catherine what country are you from, I’m curious? Because I can’t imagine NOT having a pledge

      • Catherine Says:

        Ireland, specifically Republic of Ireland. No I’d say it would be difficult, same as anyone outside of USA imagining having one. We used to say prayers in the Irish language in school instead…

  3. gymglitterxx Says:

    Whatever happened to “shut up shannon?” Are you a Shannon fan now?

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      I can separate the gymnast from the person. Shannon the do gooder is why, Shut up Shannon exists. I always thought the gymnast was great and treated badly by her own federation.

  4. Jen Smith Says:

    Okay, A) why did she name her kid Rocco? She’s country, not Italian. And B) why did she divorce her first husband, the eye dr? I think because she wants to be a First Lady and saw her current husband as her way to that. Not a fan!

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      It’s a family name (Rocco) I don’t hate Shannon and I think she was a great gymnast that never gets enough credit but I do get tired of her lets save the world attitude. Do gooders annoy me:)

    • gymglitterxx Says:

      Come to think of it GTT you are right about Shannon not getting the right attention. She has an AA silver and a beam gold just like Shawn, and loads more world medals But she was never anywhere near as hyped as Shawn for some reason

  5. Go Shannon (I know she means well) Says:

    I don’t feel the same way that I used to about the Pledge. At one time, it was not too hard to believe that there was the possibility of a majority nation that was worth one’s allegiance and I could pledge in good faith while believing that negative elements would not predominate, but majorities elected Clinton and Obama and many other politicians who have, with others bad actors, destroyed much of what was good about the U.S.A.

    If more voters woke up permanently and moved the country in a more sensible direction far enough to justify allegiance, I’d certainly offer mine, especially due to the problems with other national entities, but the combination of demographic changes (effectively open borders, bad visa policies that ignore merit, faster reproduction rates among less otherwise-capable groups) with a citizenry undereducated and propagandized in government schools and further propagandized by mass media that are controlled largely by leftists is almost sure to prohibit such restoration of the Republic.

    Accordingly, I cannot in good faith offer allegiance to the flag of the United States. I can still support it when it happens to be following a sensible policy in one area, but under the current administration, the number and scope of those areas has been greatly restricted, and if current trends were to persist, the preponderance of government policy would not be worthy of allegiance.

    I do pledge allegiance to what is right but increasingly what is right is at odds with the government and seemingly even the people of the States.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Here is my thought process. If you don’t want to say it you should not be forced but that doesn’t give you the right to tell others they can’t say it. If I want to stand in a classroom and sight the Pledge I should be able to without you hiring a lawyer to force me to stop.

      A few months ago some Jewish girl in Mass decided a poster at her school had to go because it said God. Her ignorant parent supported her and the school was going to fight her til the end to keep the poster up but when they found out it would cost 2 million dollars they decided the money would be better spent somewhere else and they gave in. This little bitch didn’t care about the poster she wanted they attention that Mommy and Daddies money could buy her and she got her own way. She sat there texting at the meeting where people decided if they were going to fight it. She looked and acted like a retarded idiot but she got all the attention she wanted.

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      If the government read this blog, they’d find you (“Go Shannon”) and arrest you for being a suspected terrorist. The first amendment does not apply anymore. But I appreciate your sentiments. 🙂

    • terrigymfan Says:

      Go Shanno, I appreciate your frustration but if you actually look at the words of the Pledge, it is stating allegiance to the ideals embodied in our Constitution and Bill of Rights. I prefer to support and state my allegiance to those ideals even if our government and the country as a whole is not living up to it at the moment. Note the pledge ends with “with liberty and justice for all.” The opponents of the pledge tend to forget that part. I for one do not see the harm in continuing to have this little daily reminder for our schoolchildren that we are very fortunate to live in this country and we have some obligation to give back by supporting and protecting the ideals of liberty and justice upon which this country is founded. I don’t have a problem with emphasizing to children they have rights and they should stand up for them but it doesn’t hurt to teach them about their responsibilities as citizens too. Maybe I am just old fashioned.

      As far as having the words “under God” in the pledge, I don’t have a problem with that either. Atheists are entitled to their view that there is no God, but they shouldn’t be allowed to shove that view down the rest of our throats by removing even the most generic, innocuous references to God from every public setting even arguably related to government. We live in a country now where, unless you actually walked into a church, you would think that the vast majority of people never even think about God, and religion places absolutely no part in American life. Just look at any TV show or movie; in most cases religion is ignored but if it is mentioned it is portrayed in a negative light.

      I agree with you GTT that no child should be forced to say the pledge, but as far as I know children are not being forced to do so, and certainly not being forced to say the “under God” part. I have the same reaction as you do GTT to stories about people who are “offended” when their children see some innocuous reference to God on a sign or something at school. If they are right that there is no God, then how are their children being harmed by being exposed to a little three-letter word which I am sure their parents are telling them ranks right up there with unicorns and gnomes? They need to get a life.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        If a school wants to have a poster on it’s wall that mentions God in a poem they should have the right just like you should have the right to walk down a different hallway and not look at said poster.

        Kids today annoy me to no end. They are all spoiled brats used to getting their own way because their parents have money. Too many kids feel the need to do what they want and that girl that had her parents money backing her up is a perfect example.

        I used to have a part time job at a drugstore a few years ago when the boy and I were planning a vacation and the teenagers in this well to do neighborhood would come in right in front of you and paint their finger nails with the nail polish from the shelves. RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. They just didn’t care. They knew mommy and daddy would support them.

        This is why I never want kids.

      • Again -- Go Shannon (I know she means well) Says:

        Hope I hit the right button to put this in the correct place…I’m such a Luddite about these things. Me and Sarah.

        The point is well taken that the words, as understood at the time of their adoption, are by and large most excellent.

        There are problems with this picture when the context is a recitation in a government school by impressionable children. The children would do well to understand the context but may as yet be insufficiently developed to do so.

        The subtext to this text in that context might as well be something like: “The government represents all that is good since we pledge allegiance to its flag, hence our best response, our responsibility, is to believe what the government tells us and do what it asks.” When the government is corrupt and populated by malintentioned and/or deluded individuals, and its policies are determined to bad effect by those individuals, a compliant stance inculcated in young minds can be quite negative, perhaps catastrophically so.

        Further, word redefinitions have struck at the core of the Pledge’s message, e.g., “justice” is now often heard in the context of Rawlesian “distributive justice”, which is not justice at all, but socialism, hence theft under color of authority. Similarly, “liberty” is easily misunderstood in the modern context as libertinism, a juvenile “you can’t tell me what to do” expressed at the policy level and in personal behavior.

        I’m fairly certain that I’m on some terrorist watchlist somewhere given the list of keywords they’re reported as using, and the stated policies of the Department of Justice as to the sort of people they believe important to keep an eye on — you know, liberty-loving patriots and other such scum.

  6. sanitynmotion Says:

    LOL you can’t really say shut up to Shannon’s kid.

    Here in CA you get a ton of people all up in arms about the “under God” thing. In fact, so much so that the pledge of allegiance isn’t said anymore in classrooms here. What can I say, I live in a very liberal state where patriotism falls second to most things.

    • terrigymfan Says:

      Yeah, I should have said movements to abolish the pledge on a national basis (through for example an act of Congress) never get much steam.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      He is just a baby and for him to remember all of that even if he was helped by mommy is amazing. He will be our next president.

  7. Aerial Says:

    I’m from the Great White North, we just sing “Oh, Canada” here and call it a day 🙂

    To the person asking about her former husband, I’ve been waiting for more dirt on that scumbag for years, that was the craziest gossip ever. There are lots of articles online about how 1) she accused him of treating her horribly, 2) he accused her of cheating with a male gymnast on tour (Roethlisberger??) and shortly afterwards, he disappeared and was wanted by the police! There are articles about him bolting from his (optometry? practice) and customers showing up with no notice and f*cked over. I never heard what happened after that, which would have been the best part.

    I wonder what her 700 wedding guests thought of that outcome.

    • terrigymfan Says:

      I love Oh Canada.

      The bride and groom from one of the best weddings I ever attended were divorced a year later. I kind of wanted to ask for my wedding present back but on the other hand it was a great party. Maybe that was the case with Shannon’s wedding too.

      One funny thing I read was that Shannon said she used to argue with him over putting regular vs. premium gas in the car. He wanted premium and she insisted on regular because she was cheap. I’m guessing Shannon is quite a penny pencher except when it comes to plastic surgery and her makeup (or maybe that is the problem with her makeup, lol).

      • Aerial Says:

        I remember her Dad saying his main job for the wedding was to write the cheques. This after her non-rich family remortgaged their house and spent a year not paying Nunno until they were somewhat back on their feet. By this point Shannon was a multi-millionaire constantly working and getting gymnastics-related deals. That rubbed me the wrong way, especially considering her royalty-calibre wedding. (In Oklahoma, lol.) I always figured if my parents had paid for me to have an elite upbringing and then I cashed in HUGE TIME, the first thing I’d want to do would be not only financially independent but find a way to make their years of sacrifice and struggle up to them in someway.

        I can’t stand anyone who hacks up their face after you are so familiar with what used to be. She could be a white member of the Jackson family in my opinion.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Shannon does not feel like the type to not help out her family. She is a do gooder for heavens sake. She helped them. That is what do gooders

    • terrigymfan Says:

      Ben Roethlisberger?

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