Olympic Trials

Sorry I have been missing in action but life calls. Tomorrow is no exception. Work, the boy and my favorite little people in the world take president over gymnastics, even in an Olympic year.

I will be home tomorrow night but I am not sure when so if I get home in time for the men I will live blog. I just wouldn’t count on it.

If NBC shows Trials online there is more of a chance I will be online. If not it means me fighting the boy for the television during baseball season and lets just say I lose out big time when it comes to obsession of a sport:) plus I can’t really argue with him when I love baseball even more then the boy does and the only place the internet works is in said living room.

I leave you with this article that made my night. Usually when I read gym articles at night they piss me off but this one made me smile:)

Read the article if you like but my favorite part is below.

Liukin, who will be 23 in October, hopes to slip in the back door and be selected for one of the five spots on the Olympic team.

It’s real easy to root for Wieber. She has the complete package and all the credentials necessary to add Olympic gold to the treasure chest of awards she has already accumulated. And she has worked tirelessly for four years for this very moment.

It’s virtually impossible to root for Liukin
, who a couple of weeks ago at the Visa U.S. Championships placed sixth on the beam and did not earn a trip to the Olympic Trials on the basis of her Visa performance, but received a gift at-large spot on the basis of what she did four years ago.

As she awaited a decision as to whether she would be invited to Trials, she said in a television interview, “I guess I would understand if [I am not invited]; my scores weren’t showing that these performances would help the team in any way, shape or form, but I hope I get another chance.”

She could have taken that moment to bow out gracefully, too, but apparently the possibility of one more shining moment — even if she’s nothing more than a 100-to-1 long shot — was worth the gamble.

Ahaha. I could have written that


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67 Responses to “Olympic Trials”

  1. JAS4 Says:

    Finally the truth from a gymnastics article lol I wish the men’s gymnastics came on at night like the women’s but it’s set to record because my son said he wants to watch “man gymnastics” lol

  2. JAS4 Says:

    Marta interview

    Rebecca on her beam dismount

  3. JAS4 Says:

    Nastia said everything she messed up on at Nationals was a fluke…. Um..,. Hadn’t she only been doing full routines for like a week so how would that be a fluke it’s not like she had been doing the bar routine for months and rarely missed she had been doing it for a week!

  4. Hannah Says:

    Haha great article!!!

  5. The GYM JUICE Says:

    Ya’ll check out my new montage about my top six favorites to make the team! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh1BnDC4glU&feature=youtu.be GTT will love the dig on Nastia at the end LOL

  6. Catherine Says:

    Wow, media in non-drooling over Nastia mode. For some reason, my mind finds it easy to root for her. I love a comeback and my first reaction on seeing her bars was ‘Wow that looks goo, good for her. I hope she replicates that in comp now’ and then my mind finally catches up to itself and goes Hold on..what the hell is she doing at Trials, she didn’t earn it! Go home!..my blog is a bit schizo about her!

    She won’t be tweeting about that article anyway..

    • Gymsurfer Says:

      I love a comeback too but I don’t see this as a true comeback, since she started so late. That is why I am rooting for Sacramone over Nastia. And I didn’t think her bars was good. Looked laborious and Valery was there spotting every move.

      • Catherine Says:

        True, I think I am just a sucker for great lines on bars. Absolutely, once the rational part kicks in I am astounded that she is THAT heavily spotted this close to Trials.

  7. Catherine Says:

    The McKayla interview on USAG facebook is worth a watch. She’s so much more likeable and marketable than Jordyn, Gabby and Aly.

  8. terrigymfan Says:

    I love Mckayla’s personality and that little impish grin she always has. She definitely has that pizzazz that none of the others have.

    The only thing I disagree with in Reinhard’s article is his suggestion that the primary team should have 5 aa’s meaning no McKayla. The problem with that approach is that we really need McKayla’s vault, not only for team but for the individual gold medal too. I like the old team scoring system where everybody needed to be a good aa’er but with the new team scoring system it pays under some circumstances to have a specialist on the team when she truly is “blow the competition away” specialist in that event.

    I personally loved Nastia’s look on beam when she was in her prime and love a comeback, but only when the person who is doing the comeback has worked hard at it. The idea that you can mess around and not train for 2 or 3 years and then get back in Olympic shape in a few months, especially as a 22 year old, is absurd – and Nastia has proven that. She can’t blame injuries for all this. If she had started training early enough she wouldn’t have sore shoulders. Plus we don’t even need a good beam specialist. What we need is a good bars specialist and we know Nastia doesn’t help on that front at all. What has to be irritating to the other competitors is Nastia being given a free pass all the way to trials that none of the others would possibly have received under the same circumstances.

    I’m starting to get less confident that Kyla is going to be one of the five. Not getting a good vibe on that based on some of Marta’s comments. It might be Price instead.

    • JAS4 Says:

      I think Marta’s ideal team that she is talking about is probably Jordyn, Gabby, Aly, McKayla and Nastia because that would make a team of her four favorites plus Jordyn and remember how months back Marta was talkIng about how well Nastia and McKayla would complement each other I have a feeling that if Nastia can manage to at least get through a bar routine by herself then Marta will put her on the team

      • Monica Says:

        I don’t know.. to me it seems likeMarta’s five consists of Jordyn, Kyla, Gabby, Aly and McKayla. If you watch her interview at Gymnastike, she said she’s not necessarily looking for specialists.. and that they want to have all the events covered. She said that the team is doing better on bars by having Gaby (she def is Marta’s pet), and mentions Kyla’s and Jordyn’s as well. So it doesn’t seem like she is stll counting on Nastia for bars…

  9. terrigymfan Says:

    Are you trying to give me nightmares for the next few days? LOL Actually, you might be right. She definitely doesn’t seem to be talking up Kyla while she is talking up Nastia. It will be ridiculous though to put Nastia on the team. Even all this about her not working hard enough aside, and even assuming you could say you can rely on her to do a good beam routine at the Olympics (which I don’t think can be said), what possibly does Nastia add to the mix that would justify taking one of five precious spots on the team? At best you can only say that Nastia’s beam is equal to Jordan’s and Aly’s. You might could say Nastia’s beam is better and more reliable that Gabby’s, but not Kyla’s or Price’s, so why put Nastia on the team when either Kyla or Price (or Alicia or Finnegan for that matter) bring other things to the table.

    • JAS4 Says:

      I don’t think Nastia would be able to out score Kyla or probably even Jordyn on bars internationally given the amount of time left before the Olympics and beam is(should) not enough to get her to London but Marta will come up with whatever reason to take her

      • Gymsurfer Says:

        The reason, JAS4, is visibility for USA Gymnastics in the form of sponsors and media. Nastia is an Olympic Gold medalist who is also a “hot blonde” AND is making a comeback, so bingo – she’s going to bring a big ka-ching! to gymnastics and Marta being the media whore that she is wants that desperately.

      • terrigymfan Says:

        Gymsurfer, do you realize how many whores in the world you just insulted?

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      The way Kyla is scored on beam inside the US annoys the hell out of me. Her leaps are perfect. Sometimes, lately anyway she misses a connection but no one touches her leaps and they still find a point off in deductions. She has been lowballed in the US.

      • Jeco Says:

        I totally agree!! She will score so much higher internationally and Martha knows it!! And some of the other US girls will unfortunately have major fo deductions:(

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Marta might know it but it doesn’t stop her from having the judges score Kyla low so that she can potentially screw her over for one of her favorites…if Kyla were scored fairly and wasn’t told to water down her floor routine I’m pretty sure the two AA spots would have to go to Kyla and Jordyn.

        I can’t see Gabby’s floor doing that well internationally, and I can’t see Aly’s beam doing that well internationally – just for the sake of missing form and toe point and lack of flexibility, but that’s just me. Maybe I’m too critical of Aly but I’d rather see ASac’s beam any day.

  10. mc Says:

    No, Kyla is on her team…she’d be nutso to take delusional Nastia( flukes my butt) over Kyla. I refuse to read even one more Nastia interview ever…cockiness mixed with attention seeker and stupidity aren’t interesting to me.

  11. Catherine Says:

    I agree that Kyla is on her team. The obvious team is JGAMK. Marta said the team is obvious to those watching comps all year. Nastia is not obvious at all, not in the slightest. Don’t forget Marta also said she doesn’t value specialists. Sure, it doesn’t do to read too much into her but I think it’s a bit promising. Unless Kyla has an absolute meltdown both days then she is on the team. Same with McKayla. Both ARE all-arounders, as in, can be.

    GTT, Trials are streaming on nbcolympics.com

    • terrigymfan Says:

      Catherine, are you going to be able to view the webcast in Ireland?

      • Catherine Says:

        No, it’s region blocked. However USAG are pretty optimistic that it will fly up on youtube overnight, so I’ll hope for that..may start requesting from those who reguarly upload nats etc.

      • Gymbee Says:

        Really? Excellent. I am so sad about not being able to see it! I think I will stay up anyway for quickhits.

  12. sanitynmotion Says:

    I think if anyone has the potential of being screwed over here it’s Kyla. All signs point to it. Marta will definitely take Maroney – she has a tendency to favor really strong vaulters, and Maroney is technically an all arounder as well (she “does” all four events even if she doesn’t do them well). Because Marta kept Kyla’s floor down, she basically put Kyla in the “bars/beam” group…doesn’t bode well if that group contains TWO WOGA athletes (namely, Nastia). Kyla is totally better than both but I can see her being underscored at Trials and Nastia being overscored…

    I saw this article yesterday and a lot of people were pissed about it on Twitter. I agree with it, actually. What gives this b*tch the right to think she can waltz in on this sport months before an Olympics and compete for a spot on a five-person team, especially when EVERYONE ELSE has been training for YEARS? It was totally obvious too that she was being given the free pass whereas Chellsie was tossed away for making two major mistakes. Yet Nastia can have form issues all over the place and a level 5 dismount and still be taken to Trials. Wow.

    Nastia’s cockiness not only angers me but makes me scared she knows something we don’t.

    • terrigymfan Says:

      Sandy, I hope you, me, and JAS are just being paranoid but I am keeping my fingers crossed just in case!

      • JAS4 Says:

        I really hope we are wrong but I just have a feeling Marta wants Nastia on the team or Nastia is blackmailing Marta lol

    • doughnut sundae Says:

      Politics is like start value and athleticism is like execution. Under the current Code, the former carries more weight than the latter.

      When Nastia was renamed to the senior national team without verifying a complete routine, something was up.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Like she was told she is on the team if she hits no matter what she has for a routine? I have been saying that since her comeback.

      • JAS4 Says:

        I agree! Even though her start value is only like a tenth higher than Jordyn and she looks very labored even if she does get through the routine doesn’t mean it will look good but Marta doesn’t care about that new conspiracy theory: Nastia and Valeri have blackmail Marta lol

      • Gymbee Says:

        Wouldn’t you bet Valeri has some saucy photos of Marta and Bela somewhere lol.

      • JAS4 Says:

        Or maybe he has photos of them being abusive or a recording of their verbal abuse and threatens to expose them and get Marta fired if they don’t bow down to Nastia lol

  13. Dee Says:

    I think now that the final team will be Jordyn, Aly, Gabby, McKayla and Kyla. I dont think it will change. I really dont have a lot of fear that Kyla will be left at home because although she was never a World team member, she went to tons of international competitions as a Junior and she won most of them. Internationally, her gymnastics scores well and her lines/style is appreciated. I know Marta likes strong vaulters, but she also likes that “international look”.

    Unless Price blows them all out of the water, I think the team will be JAGMK…like so many others have guessed.

    • terrigymfan Says:

      Thanks for the soothing words Dee!

      • Dee Says:

        I wont lie, back at Classics I thought that Nastia had made her case. Then Nationals happened. And now, after reading the podium articles/notes from this week, I no longer think even Marta can validate putting her on the team. I think this will be a WOGA free Olympics.

      • terrigymfan Says:

        I didn’t exactly think she made her case at Classics but thought to myself “the Nastia bashers might be wrong” and let’s at least see what she looks like at Nationals. She lost me completely at Nationals though and I realized no way she should be considered for the team.

      • Gymsurfer Says:

        I agree with Dee and Terrigymfan. She lost me at Nationals. She’s lost me even more watching her podium for Trials – Valery should NOT be spotting her *this* much 30 days before the games, I’m sorry but that’s ridiculous.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I want to believe Dee but I’ve seen too many times people getting screwed over for ratings and what is believed to be “more marketable.” This team with Nastia on it, in general, is by leaps and bounds more marketable than not. The storyline is there. The media is probably drooling to have her on this team. Then there’s poor Kyla Ross who’s quiet and unassuming and does her job and might just be screwed over for marketability.

        Why do you think Mohini made it in ’04?

      • terrigymfan Says:

        I agree Sandy that’s what Marta and USA Gymnastic might be thinking but if they are they are stupid even from a marketing standpoint. The best story line is going to be the team winning gold. If they do that they are going to be marketable as hell I don’t care how dull the individual members are (and that won’t be the case with Mckayla on the team anyway). Look at the 1996 team. Everybody made out like bandits after they won gold even though no individual on that team was a particularly noteworthy media personality. People are going to watch the Olympics anyway. What USA Gymnastics should be worried about as far as marketing is concerned is what is going to happen after the Olympics. Getting a silver or bronze medal because you put Nastia on the team is going to be a dumb move even from a marketing standpoint because the team will be forgotten about in two days. They need to field the team with the best chance of winning gold and that is not by putting Nastia on the team!

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I totally agree Terri! I just have this horrid gut feeling. Sigh. I hope it’s just me being paranoid…

        Seems like in 1996, the team was decided on logic and, exactly like you say, “best team for winning gold.” Since then, with Marta at the helm, I can’t say all of their team choices have made the most/best sense. 2004 was a great example – they had TWO vault specialists and yet nobody really solid on floor except Carly. I fear floor might be again the reason the US would lose out on gold this time around.

        I’m just going to stick with my expectation the team will be McKayla, Jordyn, Aly, Gabby, and Kyla.

      • Dee Says:

        I dont know if Mo made it in ’04 for marketing potential as much as she made it for having a celebrity endorsing her??

        Sanitynmotion – I agree with you on the floor thing. Too much emphasis has been put on bars the past few months leading up until now. Yes, we are weaker on bars than the other events, but we are not “weak”. There are plenty of good AA gymnasts with bar routines that will get the USA through a team final. I fear that floor is being potentially overlooked. This could be why Marta is not interested in “specialists”. She might already have sniffed this out.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I hope so Dee. I mean, take Romania as an example. They have bar issues too and yet they were still able to beat Russia with great floor and beam routines. This will be their strategy at the Olympics; Romania is complementing their lack in bars with powerhouses on floor, beam and even to some extent vault (with Ponor and Izbasa). Iordache is to Romania as Jordyn is to the US.

        Beam and floor are the last two apparatuses to come to play in the team final for the highest qualifiers, right? I can’t help but think this will all come down to floor unless there’s a major mistake on other apparatuses. US will be fine on bars with Weiber, Douglas, and Ross.

    • terrigymfan Says:

      Sandy, your observation that “it seems like in 1996, the team was decided on logic” and was the “best team for winning gold” is very astute. That team was determined strictly based on the top finishing scores at Trials except that Shannon Miller and Dominique Moceanu, who were injured and could not compete at Trials, successfully petitioned to have their scores at Nationals used to determine their final standing for purposes of team selection. Shannon and Dominique had the first and third best scores at Nationals, and the idea that they could petition to have those scores considered in the event of injuries preventing them from competing at Trials was a procedure everyone knew in advance could be invoked if necessary (it was not some after-the-fact gimmick used to put undeserving members on the team).

      In other words, the 1996 team was not selected by a committee but instead on actual competition result, and look what happened – team gold. I am not exactly sure how the 2000 team was selected but I know Marta has done everything she can since 1996 to build more and more subjectivity into how the Olympic team is selected. I am sure that’s how she and Bela did it back in Romania – they just picked whoever they wanted for the team – and they think that’s the way to go here. But look at the result since 1996 – underperformance and disappointment by the US team. Says a lot about picking the team by a committee based on undefined criteria, doesn’t it?

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Amy Chow got lucky IMO that this Olympics was held in the US. She never did anything or merit until she got in front of the home crowd at those Olympics. She was part of the 94 team and she fell twice in prelims then hit in team finals but she has the ugliest gymnastics I have ever seen. She had no individual results of merit til her EF in 96.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        That’s funny…I just think of Amy Chow as forgettable. I don’t even know what she did to get on the team in ’00…

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Exactly Terri! I tried to say as much on FB once and got that stupid MaryMargaret b*tch telling me that I was wrong, Marta has been able to bring home loads of medals and that team silver was a major feat and everyone was so proud of them.

        I mean, OK, yes silver is good but we all know everything revolves around gold medals. No other color is really cared about. Do you see SJ posing with her silvers and bronze? Nope. All that ever comes out is that one gold medal on beam. Do you think Phelps would have been on the cover of Time or whatever it was (Newsweek?) with eight silver/bronze medals around his neck? Nope.

        So I told MaryMargaret idiot-face this type of thing, and how Marta should be let go if we don’t come home with gold this time around. She’s had THREE separate chances to bring back a gold when the US was heavily favored, having won the previous team worlds title (2003, 2007, and now 2011)…and this wasn’t even the case in 1996. If we can’t bring it home three major chances in a row, it should go back to the old school, tried and true method of placing these girls on the Olympic team based on past scoring results, not on subjectivity based on one old lady.

        Of course that ninny doesn’t like it when you tell her the facts…she just goes on about something else.

      • Catherine Says:

        Mary Margaret is infuriating! I don’t want to drag my own facebook account into it, but I feel like creating a new one just to lay into her. I think the worst thing is that she acts like it’s wrong to speculate and give opinions because we should all just wait for USAG and never dare criticise anything.

      • H Says:

        Hmm … Who is Mary Margaret?

      • terrigymfan Says:

        Sandy, I read your back and forth with Mary Margaret on FB a few days ago and couldn’t stop chuckling. You did a great job but with some people no amount of logic in the world is going to change their minds. I know it was frustrating for you. I confess I ran a little Google search of her name just to see if there was a real person out there with her name and if so if it look like she was connected to USA Gymnastics and/or Marta in some way. She does appear to be a real person and I couldn’t see any obvious connection to USA Gymnastics and/or Marta.

      • JAS4 Says:

        Maybe USAG just kidnapped some random lady an brain washed her to be their puppet lol some people are just plain crazy and just want to believe everything anyone with “authority” tells them and never question it lol

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I probably shouldn’t have used my FB for privacy reasons (not like you guys would do anything, but part of me was a bit taken back when that Cecilia girl was banned from the USAG FB site) but I couldn’t help but try to put that MaryMargaret idiot in her place…

        Sometimes it’s fun for me though. And I can’t help but have some fun in the Olympic year.

      • JAS4 Says:

        I need to make a second fb to go comment on USAG lol I already made a second twitter for gymnastics lol

      • Gymbee Says:

        I read that too Sandy! I was rooting for you! But that Mary Margaret biyatch is just past any common sense, she seems brainwashed!

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        She has to work for USA-gymnastics. They would be smart enough to hide her.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        She’s STILL saying that the fifth spot is up for grabs…and no, not McKayla’s spot, but Kyla’s! Has she had her head up her ass this year? If anything, McKayla’s spot should be iffy based on the fact she only contributes a high vault score (and everyone and their mother seems to have an amanar now). Kyla is a shoo-in for beam AND bars (the US’ weakest event).

        She was even saying that Sloan or Price would be in that fifth spot. I think she’s just plain stupid. Yet I think it’s fun to counter her drivel.

        If Nastia makes the team I can see her being like “well USAG knows more than we do since they’ve been around these girls non-stop so we should just be supportive of the team as it is and not stir up ANY controversy…let’s bow our heads in prayer to Marta.”

      • Dee Says:

        I missed all of this! wtf!
        *goes back to dig on usag facebook*

  14. Gymglitterxx Says:

    http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/gymnastics/2012-olympic-trials-douglas-talks-confidence.html?chrcontext=team-usa Have ya’ll seen this interview of Gabby? Wow she is SO FREAKING OBNOXIOUS! someone needs to train her on how to talk to the media!

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      I had to turn it off after 20 seconds…she’s just a teenager though. But yes she definitely needs media training. She talks too fast and says “you know” a lot.

    • Catherine Says:

      Not even Jordyn winning pretty much everything for last few years talks as confidently as Gabby..the rest all seem grateful and thankful, which Gabby is missing. They are so young though, it’s easy to forget. Anyway yes most of them need media training. Jordyn is a bit boring, Aly has the most ridiculous monotone and nothing interesting to say, Gabby comes across as arrogant, Kyla is just too quiet… Alicia and McKayla know how to rock an interview while still coming across as nice people.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I hate the young excuse. Gabby might be a cocky shit because she is a teenager and everyone telling you how great you are would go to your head but there are successful teens in every sport that don’t act like her and Nastia. Michelle Kwan never acted like that, Tara and Sasha did. Shannon Miller never acted like that. The only bitchy Mag 7 member was Moceanu.

      • Catherine Says:

        I think it’s valid. I have much more respect for those who don’t let it go to their head at that age and remember to thank their coaches and parents etc. but I can see how easy it is to believe your own hype when you’re that age. Gabby’s mother may be an influence on it, she seems crazy.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Yeah well the cocky sh*ts eventually will get what’s coming to them…especially with people like Gabby, who haven’t even earned the right to be cocky.

        I think she should be more humble and realize she was overscored. I think Marta wants her confidence level up though because she probably sees that the more confident Gabby is, the more likely she’ll hit when performing.

      • Gymbee Says:

        Oh yes Aly. I love her, but don’t like listening to her monotonous voice! Even Nastia is so monotonous, you should think she would be better in interviews. I tried listening to Rebecca Bross’ interview, but all I could hear was Nastia in the background.

        Alicia and McKayla are awesome, they should run a seminar for the other girls. Interviews 101.

    • nero Says:

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  15. elitefan Says:

    Does anyone know if there’s more to the Jade Barbosa story than this? What sponsors??? http://www.thecouchgymnast.com/?p=6795

  16. Exgymgurl Says:

    It’s jade and the almighty $$, similar to why Shawn and Alicia didn’t get their pics taken in Adidas at media day a few months ago. Shawn = Nike, alicia= under Armour

  17. doughnut sundae Says:

    History is probably repeating itself.

    I think the Brazil Olympic Committee rejected her nomination for the Games after she tested positive for a banned substance – like teammate Diane dos Santos last quad.

    Rather than have the IOC look into things (and deliver the smackdown), the Brazil Gymnastics Federation kicked her to the curb, but not without some bogus reason: “Jade is SO vain! She would rather toss her career in the garbage than wear our trashy team leos!”

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