Live Blogging. Senior Finals day 2

It has Zero’s next to Nastia’s name on the score sheet for bars. Same with Bross. It has the same for Alicia on floor and she isn’t competing that event. I can dream can’t I:)


My nieces are over so I am not watching yet but I will be back soon.

The fix is in for Gabby. 14.100 with a fall. Right.

Woga, burn that leo. It is gross. YAY Kyla, Red, white and blue.

OMG Marta is right behind the judges after Nastia tanked her beam routine. The fix is in. A 14.100.

I am sorry but this is a joke. A complete joke. Marta isn’t even trying to hide the cheating.

What happened to Maroney on floor? I missed it.

Gabby’s floor is gross and she stood up so she will probably get a 15.600 on it. (15.100 9.3 execution my

Kyla hit beam but missed a connection. Not her best but better then Friday.

I like Jordyn’s leo. She missed the same connection on beam that Kyla did but she has the one armed handstand. At least I think it was the same move.

I bet Alicia is mad she chose a shit second vault. I missed her vaulting so I have no clue if she tried the DTY or just missed. Brandie Jay for Vault

Love Finnegans leo but she falls off bars and is so sloppy. Aly like sloppy.

Kyla is much better on day 2. I hope she does the Amanar and nails it.

I am not sure why you are smiling Bross. You don’t seem to care you are making it impossible for Marta to name you to this team. I wouldn’t appreciate a gymnast happy after she fell.

Kyla is first up on floor. Nastia looks pissed. She actually looks defeated but her ego won’t let her bow out gracefully.

Kyla’s bars were a messier then Friday but I can see Gabby getting a 15.700 with the over score.

Gabby is first up on vault. Kyla on floor and Kyla has no shot of getting third with these judges in the AA.

Steps are steps. 3 for Gabby and a 15.800. Ok

Much better floor for Kyla but without an upgrade she is not doing AA at the Olympics. Marta won’t let that happen.

If the Olympic judges score Aly better then Kyla on beam I will eat my shoe.

Did I miss something? How is Jordyn only 1.50 ahead of Gabby WHO FELL.

Nastia looks defeated. Good. She needs to screw up again.

Yay, Kyla gets a gidt score FINALLY on floor.

Just shut up NBC and let Sac compete. Honestly, this 2008 shit is old and I don’t even like Alicia.

Kyla takes that same beam to the Olympics she will not end up 4th on the US team. This is such BULL SHIT

Nastia is first up on bars but something is up. Anna Li got a 15.550 on bars. They are not giving her that score for no reason.

Nastia just messed up on bars in practice. It looked like she did better then day 1 until she got sloppy after a pirourette.


THERE better NOT be a tie for the AA title.

Another screwed up bar routine for Nastia

Jordyn hit her Amanar but that score is a little high.

Nastia was way off on every handstand.

a 13.650 for that? she missed every handstand and the form issues. This is Bull shit

Isn’t there some gymnastics you could show us NBC?

Nastia better not go to Trials. This is BS if she does. Marta you screwed yourself by screwing Chellsie. Karma sucks.

Finnegan put her hand down on beam and still got a 15.

I knew something was up when Anna Li got a 15.550 on

FUCK YOU MARTA. She wants to keep Kyla down. This is fucking bull shit. Kyla should have gone for the Amanar.

I don’t even want to watch this sport anymore. The fix is in and there is no point.

Much better routine for becca on bars but if that out scores Kyla I’ll be pissed.

Finnegan just got a what on floor for that mess? If Aly gets a 15.700 she deserves it compared the the other shit done getting 15’s.

Aly deserved that 15.8 if Gabby and Finnegan got 15 plus.

Nastia is fucked in the head. She better not go to Trials.

If Kyla had done her Amanars both days and hit she would have been tied for third improving by 5 tenths each day. Not that she would have done that but she could have.

Does anyone think they will say no Trials for Nastia? Ya right.

There is no way in hell real judges will give Gabby these scores. They are too much for Nationals let alone worlds or the Olympics. SHE FELL off beam. This is ridiculous.

Nastia gets to go to Trials. This is fucking ridiculous.


212 Responses to “Live Blogging. Senior Finals day 2”

  1. JAS4 Says:

    Of course Nastia was the first thing on the tv lol

  2. Shawn Fan! Says:

    Soon excited y’all!! What an emotion roller coaster it has been!

  3. Shawn Fan! Says:

    Aly amanar was not fully rotated on her landing!

  4. Shawn Fan! Says:

    Kyla kills it on bars!!!!

  5. JAS4 Says:

    Are you kidding me they didn’t even give Sloan a 15 on bars and they were better than Friday

  6. Shawn Fan! Says:

    Oh no! Gabby falls off bars

  7. Biyatch Says:

    These scores are a joke. Nastia and Gabby got a 14.1 with those beam routines.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Marta has too much control. She is fixing this for Gabby to be on the AA podium.

    • JAS4 Says:

      Internationally neither would have got over a 14 with a fall and Nastia touching the beam

    • Gigi Says:

      It’s the same as well Bela was in control of everything. Both of the Karolyi’s need to go away and retire. They have hurt American gymnastics with their extreme training, bias and attitudes.

  8. JAS4 Says:

    Wow I can’t I feel bad for Maroney! I hope she is ok and if Marta and Penny don’t let her go to trials they are officially on crack!

  9. Melissa Says:

    Ugh poor mckayla! I love her!

  10. Exgymgurl Says:

    First broken gymnast and just lost 0.4… team finals at least and vault gold

  11. Exgymgurl Says:

    Ponor got a 14 something on a lovely connected beam routine with no bobbles in Ghent

  12. Shawn Fan! Says:

    A Kyla fluff piece – finally!!!!!!

  13. Exgymgurl Says:

    Kyla better rock floor!!!!

  14. Exgymgurl Says:

    ASac stand by we may need you

    • Biyatch Says:

      I was thinking the same thing… door just opened wide for Alicia. And at least her beam has been reliable as well as her Rudi.

  15. JAS4 Says:

    Gabby got through floor so of course she will score extreamly high lol

  16. JAS4 Says:

    And of course Gabby gets a 15.1 on floor

  17. Melissa Says:

    I am so over Gabby! Pulling for Kyla to make the team! GTT it looked like maroney over rotates her 3.5 pass and completely missed the floor and landed straight on her back. So they took her to the hospital. Now petitioning in…

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Thanks Melissa. Hope she is okay.

      • Melissa Says:

        I guess they wanted to make sure she didn’t have a concussion. She had her iPhone on her lap when they wheeled her out lol so hopefully she isn’t too hurt!

      • Gymbee Says:

        Yeah and she was smiling 🙂 Phew. I am now kinda nervous they won’t grant her petition. NOTHING surprises me at this point.

        Shawn Johnson interview. She looks different. Can’t point my finger on it. Older? Less make-up than usual?

      • elitefan Says:

        They said she never lost consciousness, which means at worst it would be a grade 2 concussion…which American Assoc of Neuro recommends 1 week before return to competition, so she should be better soon. Sounded like they were getting a CT just to be on the safe side. Even though I thought it was tacky to show the injury, was good that they showed her smiling on the stretcher as she was wheeled out.

      • terrigymfan Says:

        I’d almost be willing to put Mikayla on the team for her charisma alone! Did you see that smile on her face as the were taking her on a stretcher and her enthusiasm when she returned to the arena? That girl has it. I just love her.

  18. JAS4 Says:

    Watch them
    Lowball Jordyns beam

  19. Biyatch Says:

    Kyla and Aly’s moms… “these scores are bullshit. Our daughter and Jordyn should be 1,2,3”

  20. Exgymgurl Says:

    ASac will take vault her avg today is way higher than brandie jay….go be a gym dog with chelsea d and shayla bj

  21. Shawn Fan! Says:

    Lol – every time I see Nastia I think back to the hooker going to step class comment…… Priceless!

  22. Exgymgurl Says:

    9.3 execution for gabby on vault…

  23. Biyatch Says:

    Say what you will about Aly but she is so freakin’ fierce. Also she’s FINALLY gotten her hair under control.

  24. tulip Says:

    This is embarrassing. Nastia’s scores, Gabby’s, Jordans are too low, Bridget’s bars was gorgeous… It’s fixed, I’d bet.the bank.
    What are the chances that the international judges underscore the US as an *f you to Marta?

  25. Shawn Fan! Says:

    Kyla kills it in floor!!!!!!

    What’s up with the music feedback? Wonder if it’s feedback picked up just by the tv crew and not a problem in the arena??

    • Melissa Says:

      Oh my god I thought the music was just me! Haha glad it’s not 🙂

    • Aerial Says:

      Aly, Kyla and especially Gabby’s music can’t handle it and neither could I. Is it something to do with a delay? I noticed the monitors were like 2 seconds behind what the gymnasts were doing.

      It was almost like two layers of the music overlapped, the second playing a couple seconds later. Enough to make a person go crazy!

  26. Exgymgurl Says:

    Someone wants Douglas to beat Wieber….retarded

  27. Exgymgurl Says:

    Bross would be better off at zenith or coachless

    • Aerial Says:

      Maybe she’ll join Wofford (wtf happened to her?) for next season, though the poor kid is already 18 and went pro. Will there be a next season? Who knows.
      I wanna know what her pushover Daddy is doing right now. Hopefully not losing it on Becca.
      Wouldn’t it be ironic if the family moves back to Michigan and she rejoins Twistars. I don’t see that happening obv but it’s all kinda ironic. Not sure if the family left only for her gymn or who’s back in Michigan.

    • gym1002 Says:

      Wofford’s coach didn’t even come to Visa’s. The gym owner did b/c tatiana can’t handle the big meets. Zenith is a terrible option for Bross. It’s too relaxed there for her personality.

      • JAS4 Says:

        Training with Kyla or Mckayla might be a good option for Bross but whether she makes the team or not I think she needs to take some time off or at least slow down training for awhile and get her strength back and give her self time to get fully over the injuries or if she wanted to stay in TX maybe Texas Dreams would be a better option

  28. Exgymgurl Says:

    Maybe Nastia will fall twice and well really miss Chellsie…

  29. Kel Says:

    Luckily, Jordyn and Gabby both have high scoring events to end with, so I am still thinking Jordyn will pull out ahead…even if Gabby gets a 15.7 on bars. Gabby definitely should NOT be in 2nd right now. I thought you had to lose a full point for a fall? If that is correct, then they are saying her score would have been a 15.1, which is just ridiculous! These overscores aren’t helping these girls at all. Just setting them up for failure!

  30. Kel Says:

    Has anybody noticed how much Tim is talking about how much Marta loves Kyla Ross? He has said it multiple times today…wonder what that means?! Marta even mouthed good job after Kyla’s floor routine. It’s about time she is showing some love!!!

  31. Exgymgurl Says:

    They need Kyla….. Yesterday made that apparent….

  32. Exgymgurl Says:

    Thank way gabby gets a 16 on bars… Jordyn Wieber over scored on vault and us champ

  33. Exgymgurl Says:

    Nastias score better be way lower than sloans

  34. MacStabby Says:

    13.85, 8.15 E. WHAT THE HELL?

  35. Kel Says:

    It is lower…13.650. Not sure how it is even that high though!

  36. Exgymgurl Says:

    13.65?.. Third lowest bar score…. Stick a fork in her she should be done…

  37. Exgymgurl Says:

    Same as Anna lis beam today….

  38. Kel Says:

    She should bow out gracefully…say she is injured…whatever. It is time for her to say good-bye and appreciate her past Olympic accomplishments.

  39. Exgymgurl Says:

    I’m hoping Bross emerges and KILLS her bars…. If her 2 event score betters Nastia and Nastia gets a pass so does she

  40. Exgymgurl Says:

    KYla needs an awesome vault

  41. Exgymgurl Says:

    15.2 for Bross she needed that….

  42. tulip Says:

    Based on what I saw today and factoring in Marta and her favoritism, this is my team:

    Alt: Maroney, Sloan, Nastia (pains me)

  43. JAS4 Says:

    If Gabby wins this with a fall I will scream!

  44. Gymbee Says:

    I thought Marta stood up to march over to the bar judges to make sure her “flying skwuh-rel” get over a 16.050. Ugh.

  45. JAS4 Says:

    Jordyn won guess they figured everyone would be on to them if Gabby won with a fall

  46. elitefan Says:

    McKayla just tweeted, “I have a concussion and a fractured nose! but don’t worry I’m okay!

  47. Exgymgurl Says:

    Price should go before ASac… Just saying we need a 5th better than Aly on bars

    • Shawn Fan! Says:

      I second this. Price had some amazing routines.

      Poor Sarah, I was routing for her. Anyone creeped out by Al Fong? Seems like Sarah has that glazed look that most GAGE girls have

  48. tulip Says:

    “Marta Karolyi doesn’t play favorites”
    – Tim Dagget

  49. JAS4 Says:

    Hope McKayla recovers quickly!

  50. Exgymgurl Says:

    Sloan and Bross to trials and…

  51. Skullflower Says:

    Mckayla’s accident.

    • Shawn Fan! Says:

      Anyone else feel Mckayla’s coach should have been there to spot her landing? He was like a day late and a dollar short by the time mckayla landed square on her back!

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        yes, yes and yes. Mckayla is off my team and Alicia is on. Alicia brings more to the table. Mckayla is too messy on floor to be a specialist. If Alicia has her floor back I think Marta should take her.

      • Gymsurfer Says:

        I agree with you GTT.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        What did I say?

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        Maybe this gets mckayla over her snottiness

      • JAS4 Says:

        I have heard some people say she is snotty then others say she is nice so not sure what to think lol

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I doubt

      • Aerial Says:

        She’s my personal fave. I was so upset for the broadcast to start this way and glad her bod/brain is not injured.

        Why did her coach watch that happen?? He probably cost her the chance to compete tonight. He reacts like he knows she’s (obviously) totally off then she crashes flat to her back/head. Frig.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        He watched her fall.Wasn’t even close to her when she was competing.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        He cost her a couple of days (maybe a week) of valuable training time too. You can’t just go back to practicing hard right after a concussion. Ask Aaron Rogers.

  52. JAS4 Says:

    And of course Nastia gets a free pass to trials!

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      This is fucking ridiculous. You could tell even Nastia thought she was being left off the Trials roster. Then she smiles when she gets her own way.

      • JAS4 Says:

        She was probably pretending but she probably knew she was going all along

      • terrigymfan Says:

        Notice Marta has been saying she only wanted to give 4 invites to trials but suddenly she gives 7? That waa only to deflect criticism when she invited Nastia. I think at least 2 of those girls would not have gotten invites if Natasia had performed even half way decently.

      • JAS4 Says:

        Yeah if Nastia came in last they’d have invite everyone to trials just to make sure she got there and I think it’s really unfair to Aly too that Gabby placed higher than she did which I know Aly has form issues and her bars aren’t great but she hit all of her routines and it’s not fair to Kyla if things were scored properly Gabby would have came in fourth or at least third after that fall

    • Gymsurfer Says:

      Am so angry about this. She really performed poorly.

      • Aerial Says:

        Where are the reporters and others forcing them to respond to this vs. Memmelgate?? How do you think Chellsie felt timing that beam routine? Ahhhh… me = angry.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        No one cares. It’pathetic

      • JAS4 Says:

        I’m sure USAG would say it was because she came close to the 28 average for a two event person and would leave out the fact of them over scoring her to make that happen if she had been scored in non Marta/USAG style she would have probably scored much different like
        Beam: mid 14s
        Bars: low 12s
        Beam:mid-high 13s
        Bars: mid 12s

  53. Exgymgurl Says:

    Congrats Nastia You scored so low they had to send all the two eventers through… That girl ahead of Sloan AA should go also

  54. Exgymgurl Says:

    Dowell… She should go if Sloan does

  55. Exgymgurl Says:

    Brannan did better than Nastia she should go also…

  56. imo Says:

    is this a fucking joke? Gabby a 15.85 they just wanted to do everything they could to get her a close as possible to Jordyn. And the fact that she got over a 15 on floor is shit, average tumbling and horrible music and choreography, and that smile, i’m sure all the girls on the national team just want to smack her. and her vault 15.8 ok… and Gabby scores are just a joke. This is all a mess. The only person that is getting hit are Jordyn and random people they don’t care about

  57. Shawn Fan! Says:

    If I was Chelsea I’d be livid right now! Nastia getting a free pass to trials with those routines is unbelievable!

  58. nero Says:

    People wanted Kyla to do her amanar? That thing is scary, she needs to go back these next few weeks and work on it. I also heard she’ll have a 2.5 out of her 1.5 come trials

    I feel bad for Jordyn, every time she wins it’s always ‘something’ this time it’s Gabby would have won if she didn’t fall. But Gabby looks peaked, Jordyn doesn’t. I hope Jo can get her connections on beam down, beam was really the only place where she gave away a lot

    One fluff??? We got like 15 minutes of fluff last year. This is the Olympic year NBC, c’mon!

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Kyla can do the Amanar. She is capable of it and has hit it many times. Marta took it out to assure Gabby was ahead o0f her. The fucking free pass Gabby is getting is in a way worse then the one Nastia is getting. Og fuck it I will save this for my Finals blog:)

    • Gymsurfer Says:

      Jordyn won’t get fluff because she is not considered attractive enough. It’s sad but that’s how it goes.

  59. The GYM JUICE Says: My hits divided by quarters of the competition, tell me whether you agree. Didn’t really have a chance to summarize my overall impressions, but the end with Martha and Terin struck me as HILARIOUS! biffs for life. Or just celebrating the fact they made it through the long boring competition, even though it actually wasn’t lol

  60. The GYM JUICE Says:

    Also can anyone tell me how Alicia wins vault with no Amanar? Think she’ll sneak in and make that Olympic team?? And also Terin the cop looked like a skank in that pink dress

    • Shawn Fan! Says:

      LOL re the Terin comment!!!! She def looked more like a cop who works bachelor parties. Between her and Nastia, what is up with the hooker looks? Did I miss some fashion memo or something?!?!?

    • Gymsurfer Says:

      Does Terin have a face burn?

  61. The GYM JUICE Says:

    Sorry but one more thing I was wondering what was the brown like splotches on the cop’s face?

  62. The Dawg Says:

    There is no way that Nasty-a can improve enough in 3 weeks to knock anyone out of a spot. I understand everyone freaking out the way they are but I just can’t see it. Her beam is not good at all and that uneven bars “routine” is a sick joke. I really don’t know why she doesn’t just retire. I love how she says she has only been doing a bar routine for a week. Like what the fuck were you waiting for? Can someone really be so arrogant that they believe they can be good enough to be on the olympic team in a month and a half?

    • gymtruthteller Says:


      • Exgymgurl Says:

        She was swinging giants for that interview in February…

      • JAS4 Says:

        If you can make it to trials with a bar routine put together in a week the look out trials the Doms are going to petition to trials after all they have a few weeks to be ready

    • Gymbee Says:

      Haha haven’t you heard the ardent Nastia-fans comments? “She had a serious shoulder injury, that’s why she couldn’t do bars!” 🙂

      • gymtruthteller Says: For the life of me I don’t know how anyone can condone what Nastia did here

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        Chellsie had a surgery…..explain the difference other than #martasprincesses Nastia nutters!

  63. hahahaha Says:

    Gabby Douglas. jokes. her scores make no sense.

  64. AKF009 (@AKF009) Says:

    BTW, Gabby’s score was higher than day one even with the fall… HAHA. The scoring in this competition was horrific to say the least.

    And as others stated, my favorite part was when Marta ran over to the judges table after Nastia’s beam to make sure she scored over a 14.

  65. whatupsanfran Says:

    It may just be me, but I’m pretty impressed by Alicia today. I could see her taking Maroney’s spot. Maroney just cannot contribute anywhere else. Alicia can definitely score in the high 15’s on vault and I think can score higher than Ross with her connections that she didn’t do today. Would be great if she could get a good floor back together, but not really concerned…impressed by Gabby on floor, think she could hit in TF, although definitely would NOT put her up on beam.

    • Gymsurfer Says:

      I agree about Alicia.

    • Gymbee Says:

      I agree. If she whips out the rumoured FH double, gets all her connections on beam AND has a decent floor, I can definitely see her taking Maroney’s spot. I feel bad for Maroney though.

      • whatupsanfran Says:

        Has there been talk of her still training that after her Achilles? If so, book her ticket.

        Maroney kind of shot herself in the foot by not really training on anything else knowing that the team was this tight.

      • Aerial Says:

        No no no. No no no no no. No one is taking Maroney’s spot because she is my favourite and therefore needs to make the team! Logic my friends! Yes Sac has hit beam but be a bit squinty and she’s Aly Raisiny on that event. Though yes Aly is solid there but I’m still having issues with it.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Okay Aerial. If she hits floor both days at Trials she is in:)

  66. nero Says:

    I would just like everyone to know I threw up a little during Shawn’s interview, that is all

  67. love4gym Says:

    Probably the most BS nationals I’ve ever seen ….

  68. Catherine Says:

    Glad McKayla is fine. She’s still on my team. Depends on Olympic prelims scoring whether she or Gabby should do floor I think, ie. impartial scoring. I would take McKayla for vault alone if Gabby will score higher on floor. Disgraceful to show that fall, but nice to her conscious and smiling!

    Love Anna Li, she is definitely a casualty of the 6-person team. Asac and Price too. Would have said Finnegan, not sure where she stands now. Gabby’s overscoring was disgusting. Sure there were other overscores, but hers were so blatant. Scoring so high with a fall is an insult to Jordyn hitting 4 for 4 AGAIN.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      The next event Gabby will fall on is floor. She is due

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        This is great gabby will go to trials overconfident like she was at pan ams after she “beat” jordyn at the scam cup….. That was such an awesome meet for her….

    • nero Says:

      I’m controlling my rage for Jordyn because she CAN be better, Gabby not really (sans the fall obviously)

      The floor rotation in prelims is going to be VERY interesting. I truly hope for the love of God that Mckayla will score higher than Gabby and be able to go first in TF. It’s going to come down to those two and I’m praying it goes to Mckayla.

      so far my team is coming to fruition complete with Gabby vaulting first. Hmm having her vault first could be a disaster. What about Jo going first then Gabby then Mckyala?

  69. Exgymgurl Says:

    I wish price had better bars…..sigh

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      Price did herself proud. If she continues this she will be the alternate and with Marta she might get a chance to compete.

  70. Christina Says:

    1) If ASac gets floor, why not bring her?? She can really contribute on both vault & beamm
    2) Gabby’s overscores (on every event)- yuck! Does anyone like her?? Not me…
    3) Poor McKayla!
    4) Aly WON both beam & floor, and deserved it. She is obviously a lock and I think she should be the second AAer- her or Kyla.
    5) I think Kyla would do so much better with a better floor routine!!! She throws her head back 15 times… enough said.
    6) I feel bad for Nastia because I want to see the ’08 Nastia compete!
    7) Jordyn was consistent as always- not a star on any event but a great AAer.
    8) Tonight was a great example of how gymnastics is subjective & too easily fixed.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      1- So far I agree. We will see what she does at Trials
      2- YES, YES and yes and while I don’t hate her I hate the ridiculous gifts she gets
      3-She will be fine but she is off my team.
      4-I would say Aly deserved floor but her beam scores were way higher then she will get at the Olympics
      5- I hope she goes back to her old one. I just don’t understand her thought process for floor
      6- Ha, Fuck Nastia. Tank job #FreeChellsie
      7- Jordyn did a great job and should have been higher compared to Gabby.
      8- True dat.

      • nero Says:

        Why is Mckyala off your team? She scored a 14.6 on floor, without that huge step on her third pass it would have been a 14.9. Her vault alone brings in at least .5 to others

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        She is too inconsistent. If Alicia stays consistent her vault alone is close to mckayla and she can hit other events. ONLY if she hits both days. Sorry Mckayla is great but one event doesn’t cut it.

      • JAS4 Says:

        I really hope Alicia gets the FHS Double and does floor at trials or at least does floor at trials even if she sticks with her FHS Rudi for trials I think they screwed Sloan on her bars scoring today she did better than day one but scored lower? I thought her bars were better than Bross

      • Exgymgurl Says:

        I still think if price shows consistency she should go ahead of ASac…. If we’re taking Ali we need an AA bar worker with huge vault

      • Shawn Fan! Says:

        Mckayla is still on my team and I’m still very muc routing for her over Asac. Mckayla had one bad fall (re:Asac had to at ’08 TF). Mackayla’s vaults are amazing and her floor is coming along. Goooo Mckayla!!

    • Gymbee Says:

      1) Definitely, I agree. I wish there was a way to bring both her and McKayla, but in this stupid 5 team member format…ugh.
      2) Ugh yeah. People are like “wow, she would have won without the fall”. I think if she had gone on beam last her score wouldn’t have been that high. Marta needed to make up for her fall by overscoring her on the other events, to make her close to Jordyn. Well if this is some sort of coping mechanism Marta has of making sure Gabby’s confidence stays high, I can see Gabby falling apart in TF’s when Marta isn’t there to help her and she sees herself far behind in the results.
      3) Yeah 😦 I hate seeing Olympic dreams potentially squashed. It’s devastating. We shall see by Trials though.
      4) So impressed by Aly, she’s such a trooper. She may not bring in the artistry, but she’s a team player.

      6) I don’t feel bad for her in the slightest. She had the same amount of time to prepare like the rest of the girls. She only started doing bar routines a week ago – she only has herself to thank here.
      7) I love Jordyn! In the back of my mind I was thinking about what is her stand-out event, but couldn’t think of any, such a good AA’er.

  71. Catherine Says:

    USAG facebook is great for a laugh (though rage included). Lots of ‘omg where’s shawn????/where’s chellsie?’ ‘Wooo go Nastia, she is the best/US team needs her, she is a great veteran and leader/you just don’t like her because she beat your golden girl Shawn’. RAGE RAGE RAGE

    • nero Says:

      Twitter was awful after Shawn retired, a bunch of “Why would she quit when she was going to the Olympics?”
      “This is such a shock!”
      “There is no way USA wins gold now”

    • Gymbee Says:

      Hahaha I hate that! I go there for a laugh but have to log out when I feel my blood starting to boil. I’ve been annoyed at the “poor Nastia, boohooo she had a shoulder injury, that’s why she didn’t do well, but she will rock at the Olympics” all day.


  72. What ever Says:

    What they have in common? They r both rigged. I just witnessed a beautiful beam routine by a sr with few wobbles but for some reason another one where a gymnast with touches the beam and wobbles several times gets almost half a point more in execution. Oh wait someone just told me if your initials are NL you can touch the beam once with no deduction and u get 4 mulligan wobbles. At least I understand the rational now. What a joke.

  73. What ever Says:

    What do u know, first they say the top 8 and top 4 on each event will go to trials. Then after the people they wanted to go were not going to finish there all if a sudden it is now top 8 on each after scores were rigged. Sorry girls who finished 9th and should be at trials but because of lack of ethics u don’t get to. Enjoy your summer and don’t let the fools bring u down

    • Catherine Says:

      9th and 10th have been allowed to go- Dowell and Sloan, along with Maroney, Li, Bross, Sacramone and…Liukin, who of course does not deserve it.

  74. Exgymgurl Says:

    Andy Memmel called it when he said “Marta’s princesses”

    • The GYM JUICE Says:

      Sorry but the Memmels as well as all of their fans are being brats about this. You can have your own opinion about whether Nastia deserves her spot at Nationals and trials, but you all have to admit that she deserves it a hell of a lot more than Chellsie. None of her scores were anywhere near as bad as Chellsie’s on the only event she is capable of. (If she was capable of anything else why didn’t she show it? Right because she can’t.) So get over the Chellsie thing. What part of OLYMPIC ALL AROUND CHAMPION don’t you people understand? Nastia earned everyone of her spots. No one’s saying we have to take a half-cooked bar routine to London. But the AA champ deserves a little more time to get it ready.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        Are you serious? Nastia had not competed in 3 YEARS. Chellsie was one injury away from finishing third AA at last years Nationals. Chellsie deserved this a hell of a lot more then Nastia.

        I would be but I don’t think many people would have cared either way if Nastia had been given the free pass to Trials if Chellsie had been given the same uneven decision.

        There is one set of rules for Nastia and one for everyone else.

        You get over it. I will NEVER let this go.

        Looks like I am back to checking all IP numbers again, sigh:)

      • JAS4 Says:

        I think Chellsie is being pretty classy about the whole thing she could have gone all Dom style and trashed Marta and Nastia but instead she was at Nationals helping USAG

      • Gymbee Says:

        Why does the AA champ from 4 years ago deserve more time to get ready? She had 4 years like everybody else. Point is whether she deserves it or not, she’s not getting it. Olympics are starting in 47 days according to our calendar and also the Liukin calendar.

        Didn’t you see chellsies podium training? She was ready on floor, but told to compete only beam. She fell twice, but she also didn’t get the added bumper Marta puts in for her favourites/princesses.

  75. Alex Says:

    OK, first- WOGA leotards. Barf. What WAS that?? So terrible. Loved Ross’ leo– so patriotic and it looked fantastic on her.
    I agree that Nastia just looked defeated. I have to think that she thought she really could get back into medal-contention by this point, and this has been a reality check. I don’t believe she will be on this team. There’s just really no way. Bross, I would love to see on this team, but again- pretty much not going to happen. I want it so badly for her, but she just doesn’t seem ready. So….post-nationals, here’s my team prediction:
    Weiber, Raisman, Ross, Douglas, Maroney or Sacramone. Alt Finnegan, Bross, Sacramone (if Maroney is on the team)

    Also, REALLY not liking Gabby these days. There’s just something I can’t put my finger on, but I am not a fan.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      IMO Nastia look defeated because she thought she wasn’t going to Trials. She really thinks she earned this National team naming.

  76. JAS4 Says:

    Things Marta Says:
    1. Chellsie can’t go to Nationals because she didn’t score high enough
    2. We need the best people for the team
    3. We need good bar workers
    4. I love all the girls
    5. I couldn’t sleep at night if I didn’t make the right choices

    Things Marta Does:
    1. Gives Nastia a free pass to trials for not scoring high enough
    2. Underscores the best people and over scores her favorites even if they’re not the best
    3. Underscores Bridget Sloan on a good bars routine to make Nastia’s not look so bad
    4. Tries to break and or do mean things to all of her non favorites
    5. Sleeps like a bear in hibernation in the winter

    • Gymbee Says:

      Hahaha JAS I love your bear comment! 🙂

    • The GYM JUICE Says:

      Come on ya’ll really think Marta controls the scoring? I admit the judges probably listen to her suggestions like making Gabby and Wieber tie on night 1, but when it comes to the stuff that matters I don’t think they would do that.

      • Gymbee Says:

        Yes I do.
        She said so herself before Classics “I told the judges to be strict”. She should not be in a position to tell the judges anything or suggest anything – she should let them do their job and shut up.

      • terrigymfan Says:

        And if she could tell them to give scores that would create a tie she could tell them to do anything!

      • terrigymfan Says:

        Actually I don’t think Marta comes right out and says “score Gabby high,” but there is absolutely no question that Marta’s desires are taken into account by a lot of the judges, at the very least at the subconscious level, when scoring these athletes. Marta is on the committee that decides what judges will be at these competitions. The judges are every bit as beholden to Marta for their careers as everybody else in USAGymnastics. USA Gymnastics tracks how each of these judges score these events. There is no doubt each judge’s “track record” is carefully watched by Marta. A judge that gets out of line with how Marta wants particular athletes scored can count on being blackballed for future prestigious assignments. The only way to stop this from happening would be to create a judges selection committee that is completely independent of Marta’s influence, but we know that is never going to happen.

  77. Alex Says:

    Also, to the person who said Shawn looked different– it’s because she’s been tanning. Her skin looked visibly aged, and she was too dark. A lesson, ladies and gentlemen, about the dangers of tanning. Not only can it give you cancer, it will age you several years. Even if you’re 20. That’s it for my PSA. 🙂

    • Gymbee Says:

      Yes, that’s it! I re-watched her interview now and you’re right. Too dark and definitely a wee bit leathery.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        So funny. I just finished watching nationals finals and thought the same thing about Shawn: “when did those fine lines start appearing around her eyes? She looks old! – and hey, she must have been tanning a lot at that lakeside…”

    • terrigymfan Says:

      Speaking of how the gymnasts looked, did anybody else notice how attractive Chelsie Memmel looked when she was timing? It is funny how different a lot of these gymnasts look when their hair is not pulled back tight for competition. Generally they look a lot more attractive IMP.

      • JAS4 Says:

        I think Aly, Jordyn, Mckayla, and Kyla all look much better with their hair down

      • terrigymfan Says:

        When their hair is pulled back it makes their foreheads look huge (in the case of Nastia is really exposes her huge forehead), plus it tightens their skin around the forehead. It makes them have an odd Stepford Wives sameness look. My daughters took introductory gymnastics classes at WOGA in the early 2000s when they were young girls. (Believe it or not I had no idea at the time that this was a place that would be producing Olympic champions.) I remember seeing the older 12-16 year old girls who were training to become elite gymnasts. I remember thinking they all had the same almost plastic look to their faces. I attributed a lot of it to the fact they were all in great shape by that time with almost no body fat. Looking back though I think a lot had to do with the fact they had their hair pulled back tight, which I think gave them that hard “plastic” look of sameness to their faces.

      • Gymbee Says:

        She looked great! I didn’t recognise her at first.

  78. Shawn Fan! Says:

    K y’all not trying to troll so don’t flame me. Just giving my opinion in an open forum

    Gabby d scores
    BB 6.3
    FX 6.1
    Vault 6.5
    UB 6.6
    = 25.5

    jordyn d scores
    UB 6.3
    BB 6.2
    FX 6.0
    Vault 6.5
    = 25

    Gabby started with a .5 cushion. With a full point off for falling off the beam, and hitting floor and a decent vault, is it really that inconceivable for her to be .2 behind??

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      SHE FELL AND GOT A 14 with a fall Plus Gabby only got a 5.9 start value on floor night 2. Any connection missed or handstand miss was not deducted. I am so sick of the Gabby apologists (nothing personal Shawn fan) when she sucks she sucks and should be called out. Her vault had like three steps. If anyone else was scored that way they would be raked over the coals.

      • JAS4 Says:

        I think if it were in a competition outside the USA she would have been scores in the 13s for that fall

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        There is going to be a hella lot of confused gymnasts at the Olympics if they judge fairly.

      • JAS4 Says:

        Tim will probably be all like the judges scoring is really tight her in London lol

      • Christina Says:

        I KNOW that vault was NOT good- and stupid TIm was like “very good” UMMM what?!?!

      • Shawn Fan! Says:

        No comments taken personally, open forum discussion here 🙂

        I do agree that Gabby’s beam was overscored, tho i do not think hers was the only one. I do not believe most of the bar routines we saw will score that high internationally.

      • JAS4 Says:

        Alicia interview

      • terrigymfan Says:

        She should have received more than a 1 point deduction for the fall from beam. She first lost her balance and grabbed the beam. She could have recovered butvsaid screw it and jumped off. Grabbing the beam was not part of falling. She should have received separate deductions for both.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        I agree – Gabby should have been more like 1.2 points behind Jordyn, not just .2. I really think Marta is playing head games with BOTH of them.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        She is and even though they hug each other and act like BFF’s you can see the tension between them. None of these girls are close friends off the internet accept maybe Aly and Mckayla who seem to have gained a real friendship

      • JAS4 Says:

        I have a feeling Geddert is on to Marta’s games though

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      And I am not yelling at you. Just speaking loudly:)

  79. hahahaha Says:

    yes because jordyn is overall cleaner than gabby, less wobbles, better landings, bigger tumbling.. the overall perception is in Weiber’s favor

    • tulip Says:

      Definitely. I would organic Kyla and Jordan will represent the US in all around.

    • Kyla Fan Says:

      But Gabby has the “international look” which Marta values so highly…

      Even though I personally prefer “elegant” gymnasts like Kyla Ross, I feel bad for Jordan because she does amazing gymnastics and is so consistent.

  80. JAS4 Says:

  81. JAS4 Says:

    Chellsie is too classy to say what she’s really thinking!

  82. Johnsonlover Says:

    Freaking nastia going to Olympic trials freaking pisses me off….SERIOUSLY? Do they see a chance of her doing well in the Olympics? No. She needs to shut up in “how she could improve in three weeks” and that’s she’s not upset at all” oh yes you were: we could see it in your pathetic little face. EVERYONE going to the Olympic trials had a pretty solid national championships other than the few falls from some..her? NO. She absolutely DESTROYED her chances of going to the olympics. But you know, you have little marta karolyi and Steve penny and their BLATANT favoritism show to have get go to trials. I don’t even have to watch this sport anymore based on the outrageous day today. Liukin. Is. Done. They just couldn’t let her be done.

  83. HPP Says:

    “Nastia is fucked in the head.”
    I love it.

  84. KMA Says:

    I think Shawn looks different b/c she’s gained weight.

  85. sanitynmotion Says:

    Let’s just toss the scores aside – we can find many points of stupidity. OMG. I could have scored these girls more accurately AND I’M NOT AND NEVER HAVE BEEN A GYMNAST.

    That being said, I think the placement was mostly fair. Jordyn deserved the win (no major mistakes), and let’s be honest – Gabby has immense talent. Her bars are beautiful, she has great form, she has great lines – and I’d much rather see her on this team than Nastia. She also has a lot of difficulty. While her and Aly are on par with the difficulty points, Aly’s bars are a lot worse than Gabby’s worst event (when she hits). Which I’m still not sure which one is truly her worst. She would have a great beam if she hadn’t fallen. Her floor is great except the choreo and the music. I thought she had a great floor night 2. I agree, her beam was overscored for sure. But so was Jordyn’s on night 2. And her vault had some steps but she got it around and had great form in the air – Aly’s vault didn’t.

    I think Gabby is good for Jordyn too because Jordyn’s a fighter and SHE DOES NOT WANT TO LOSE. Maybe Marta is trying to set this all up and play mind games with both Jordyn and Gabby – I could see that. She wants Jordyn to feel like there’s a fire under her a$$ and she wants Gabby to gain a (false) sense of confidence so that she will hit every time at the Olympics. Who knows. The whole Marta fix is stupid and is going to bite her in the a$$ – AGAIN – come London. She needs to stop this crap. It does nobody any good.

    I hope Jordyn, Gabby, and Kyla all have the chance to compete for the AA in London. Aly’s had her chance twice at worlds and consistently craps out on bars. She’ll never make podium in London unless at least two, maybe three people make major mistakes.

    I also have a bad feeling about Maroney. I almost wish she’d injured herself on bars/beam over floor. Now I’m sure Marta is worried she’ll either injure herself again on floor (the apparatus she NEEDS to prove she’s capable on) or can’t be counted on for more than one event and this will be her downfall. The door has been opened for ASac, for sure. Two solid beam sets in a row and I can see by the time Trials comes along she’ll have that rudi in check. Plus give her leg some more rest and maybe at the Olympics she’ll be able to win that individual gold.

    If the team were Jordyn, Gabby, Kyla, Aly, and ASac this could be the 3 up 3 count:

    V: Aly/Gabby/Kyla; Jordyn; ASac
    UB: Jordyn; Kyla; Douglas
    BB: Aly/Kyla; ASac; Jordyn – or give Jordyn some rest here and make it Aly; ASac; Kyla
    FX: Gabby; Jordyn; Aly

    ASac can fill in on FX if she has it by then – but I doubt Marta would risk that for team finals.

    Sigh…I’m still really pulling for Maroney though.

    Damn this sport. I love it and hate it at the same time!

  86. Dee Says:

    “Gabby’s floor is gross and she stood up so she will probably get a 15.600 on it.”

    GTT I have a major crush on you for saying this. I literally have to leave the room when she steps on the floor. LOL

    Such BS about Nastia. For a brief moment when Penny had the “Official Trials iPad” in his hands and was about to name the girls going to trials, I really, really, really thought that the road was over for Nastia. I’m still a little bit surprised that she is on that list. What ads more fuel to this fire is that Chellsie was in the building timing an event and watched the mess unfold knowing her petition had been denied when Nastia was even MORE of a mess and was still allowed through.

  87. Gymsurfer Says:

    My hubby, who used to work in sports television (ESPN) said it best: it’s all about ratings and sponsors. I am not a Nastia fan at all but let’s face it, she is considered pretty attractive as far as gymnasts go. Chellsie on the other hand? Not so much. And you wonder why Jordyn doesn’t get much attention despite being the winner? Because people think she looks like a troll. If you read the comments on Youtube attached to Jordyn’s routines, you’ll see the nastiest comments about her looks. Think of how much plastic surgery Shannon Miller had to have to make money off her career. Poor Jordyn will need even more. A-Sac and Liukin were probably ASKED to stick around because they bring in the big bucks due to their attractiveness. That’s really what it all boils down to.

    • terrigymfan Says:

      Gymsurfer, I agree with you that it’s all about ratings and USA Gymnastics and NBC are going to focus attention on who they believe the public thinks are “stars.” Nastia is the reigning Olympic AA champion and (despite what Nastia detractors say) is very attractive. Shawn won big at the last Olympics too and also is very attractive. They came out of that Olympics as media darlings and that is why the attention is on them now.

      I disagree though with people who thing Jordyn Wieber is unattractive. I personally think she is a very attractive girl. If she wins the AA at the Olympics there will be a dramatic change in USA Gymnastics and the network’s attitude towards her. Everybody loves an Olympic champion. She could use a little help from a fashion standpoint but, remember, she is only 16 years old and being glamorous is not her focus at the moment. The comparison with Shannon Miller is a little off in my view. Shannon looked like a little girl (and spoke like one too) when she won big in 1992 and that, when combined with the fact she was painfully shy, made it difficult to market her as a media darling. Plus she got overshadowed in 1996 by the whole “Mag 7” team thing. Jordyn does not appear shy to me. I have no doubt she will become a very poised speaker and interviewee once she gets experience at it.

      If looks were the only thing then there would be all sorts of attention on Mikayla Maroney right now. She is cute as a button and drools charisma and personality. If she makes the team and wins an individual gold on vault she is going to be a media darling too.

      And I most certainly do not agree with anyone that thinks Chelsie Memmel is not attractive. She looked beautiful IMO the other night when she was standing with the timer. She also has a very engaging personality and is well-spoken. IMO her story of being screwed over by Marta was ignored by the mainstream media not because of her looks/personality but because she never won big at the Olympics (which is really the only thing that counts from a general public standpoint) and therefore has never been a recognizable media persona from the standpoint general public.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Jordyn Wieber is pretty – all of them are. In fact when I first saw Nastia I thought she was kind of odd-looking with her forehead. Chellsie does not have “stand out” looks but I think it’s mostly a make-up issue – she hardly wore any, and this “is” a princess-like sport so if she had done herself up more and did something more interesting with her hair I’m sure she would have caught more attention. Just ask ASac. It’s just not Chellsie’s style though, and I personally respect her for that.

      • Gymbee Says:

        I completely agree!
        I don’t think Jordyn is unattractive at all, I think she’s really pretty!
        If she wins big, and she goes on the talk show circuit, she’s gonna be even prettier with the professional make-up and hair.

        And yeah Maroney is really pretty, but isn’t receiving much attention.

      • Dee Says:

        I think they go hand in hand. Shawn was adorable in ’08 and she won a gold medal. Who wouldnt want to see her on their Coke can/Milk advertisement/Nike shoe box/whatever?

        I do think that keeping Nastia on for Olympic Trials will draw in some viewers that would not otherwise watch this quad’s trials because they do not recognize anyone else. I dont think that she will be placed on the team or even as an alternate just because of her looks/name/past accomplishments.

      • gymtruthteller Says:

        I disagree. No one I know has a clue who Nastia is. If I tell thyem blond girl that has the bitch face then they say oh her.

      • sanitynmotion Says:

        Yeah in terms of media attention/fanbase ASac has more appeal and is more known generally speaking than Nastia. You ask most people who the gold medalist in gymnastics in Beijing was they say Shawn Johnson.

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