Australian Nationals

This girl never would have made my Olympic team no matter what she might have accomplished in the past. She fell and quit. It was pathetic.


Peggy Liddick is going to have a hard time picking a team unless she plans on cloning Lauren Mitchell.

18 Responses to “Australian Nationals”

  1. JAS4 Says:

    Wow I don’t think I’ve ever seen a gymnast do that most try to finish the best they can not hop around and pull their Leo out of their butt

  2. Cookie Says:

    That was pathetic. All the hype surrounding her during 2008 and her comeback must have gotten to her head.

    • gymtruthteller Says:

      I can understand being upset but who would take her to London knowing if she messes up she might walk around the floor instead of competing. If she was injured she should have stopped the routine. Other wise there is no excuse for that.

      • JAS4 Says:

        It kind of reminds me of American Idol when people forget the words so the just stand there or sing random made up words only she just decided to do some random dancing and pretend to finish lol

  3. terrigymfan Says:

    A definite “No Mas.”

    Does anybody know the status of Georgia Simpsom, the girl who had that horrible looking injury at the Pacific Rim Championships?

  4. MacStabby Says:

    Weak. No serious competitor does that. If she was just expecting to ride on her previous accomplishments, she blew it.

  5. Lauren H Says:

    WTF?!? There’s no excuse for that type of behavior, no matter how big a mistake you make.

    I don’t think Dasha ever had a chance to make this Olympic team, but Peggy Liddick would have to be smoking something fierce to ever dream of putting Dasha on the team after seeing this routine. What a hot mess.

  6. sanitynmotion Says:

    I don’t know who Dasha is but that was gawd awful. Her choreo was a mess of flailing arms. If someone did that in the US in an elite competition they’d probably be banned for life.

  7. terrigymfan Says:

    One thing I’ve always admired over the years is when one of these gymnasts has a bad fall or makes some other big mistake but nonetheless gathers her thoughts and then courageously finishes her routine with full effort even though she knows the score is not going to be good. In the Olympics it sometimes has meant that all hope of a medal is gone. Unfortunately we sometimes see the opposite.

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      Especially with the code of points these days, where a fall doesn’t necessarily mean “game over” when it comes to placement. If you have enough difficulty, you can make a mistake and still come back to the medal stand. Obvious examples are Rebecca Bross (fell on floor in ’09 and beam in ’10 and got silver and bronze, respectively) and even Yao Jinnan (finally remembered her name), who fell on beam in ’11 and got bronze. Had she not fallen on beam she would have won the whole thing.

  8. terrigymfan Says:

    Great point Sandy about how with the new code of points a gymnast has a better chance of overcoming a fall. My friend Chelle Stack had virtually all chance of medaling eliminated with an unfortunate fall on UBs at the 1988 Olympics. And who can forget Kim Zmeskal being eliminated from medal contention in the AA at the 1992 Olympics within seconds with a fall from the BB. In both cases they got back on and finished their routines courageously as well as their other events, but it sure would have been nice if they had not been eliminated with a single mistake.

  9. sarals24 Says:

    Um, Zmeskal wasn’t eliminated because she fell on beam, that was in compulsories. Actually, your argument works against you there because she fought her way back to place in the top three and make the All Around. She fell out of medal contention because she stepped out of bounds on FX. When the scores were literally thousandths of a point away from each other, a tenth of a point deduction was a huge deal.

  10. doughnut sundae Says:

    When a good athlete goes bad, it’s usually because of an injury. So before doubting her resolve, I’d question her fitness. Maybe the fall aggravated an injury?

    Despite her floor snafu she seems to be doing ok.

    “2008 Olympian Daria Joura (Queensland) — who returned to training on a whim in January — outscored the field on vault with a double-twisting Yurchenko (14.65).” – IG Magazine Online

  11. Rhanda Says:

    “2008 Olympian Daria Joura (Queensland) — who returned to training on a whim in January — outscored the field on vault with a double-twisting Yurchenko (14.65).” – IG Magazine Online

    Another Nastia situation…returning to training for an Olympics just because you’ve been in one before and you think you might be able to magic up what you once had in a really short period of time because your ego is out of control. Nothing was great about this routine. Maybe if Dasha had her “whim” in January of 2011, she’d be in a better position. I know she initially retired due to ongoing injuries, so I’m sure that plays a part.

  12. terrigymfan Says:

    Sara, after reading your comment I went back and looked at the 1992 Olympic results. You are right that Kim did end up qualifying for the AA final despite her 0.5 point deduction for falling during her compulsory BB routine in the AA qualifying round. What killed her was she just generally had a bad night in the AA finals. She stepped out of bounds during the FX, but even without that 0.1 point deduction, she would not have won a medal in the AA. Her fall on BB during the qualifying round did prevent her from qualifying for the BB event finals.

    What threw me off was something I remembered reading in “Little Girls in Pretty Boxes.” It quotes Bela Karolyi as saying this about Kim’s fall from the BB: “She knew and I knew at that moment the whole Olympic medal was gone just like somebody turns a bucket of cold ice water on your head.” Now maybe he was only talking about her chance of winning a medal on BB – not her chance of winning a medal in the AA – but it sure didn’t sound that way.

    So I agree Kim’s fall during the 1992 Olympics is not the best example to support the idea that a single fall could kill your chances in the old days. It does comes close though. She barely beat out Kerri Strug for 3rd place among the US team to qualify for the AA finals. Without the 0.5 point deduction for the fall she would have been 2nd, just barely behind Shannon Miller, and easily made it.

    What is interesting is that there was a slight change in 1992 from 1988 that made Kim’s fall from BB during the qualifying round less important. In 1988 scores during the qualifying round counted 1/3 toward the overall results for AA; the other 2/3 being what the gymnasts scored during the AA finals. In 1992 only the scores in the AA finals counted toward the final AA result (meaning the qualifying AA scores were essentially “thrown out” if you made it to the AA finals). If they had used the 1988 system in 1992, Kim’s fall from BB would have meant she had virtually no chance of winning a medal in the AA even had she done great in the AA finals.

    As to Sandy’s point that a single fall is not as devastating under the new code of points as it was under the old system, you do agree though that she is correct (notwithstanding my attempt to backup it up with not the best example, LOL)?

    • sanitynmotion Says:

      I always had the assumption that that fall was the one that took her out, too! I guess ’92 was too long ago. Interesting note about the way they did the scoring though in ’88 vs. ’92. Think of how much changes with just a few rules. I mean – Gutsu would not have beat Miller if those changes were in place. Even in the last Olympics, Nastia fell on her UB dismount in quals…would she have won the AA over Shawn? Hrm.

      I also remember hearing somewhere (probably on this blog) that US trials were scored like that too previously – where the nationals would be half of your score, and trials the other half. Combine the two, you make top six or seven, you’re on the team. I kind of like that because it awards consistency over “having a good day.” Consistency should be key. So that’s what it should be about. But I don’t make the rules…unfortunately.🙂

  13. terrigymfan Says:

    I think they usually counted Nationals a little less than Trials but it was usually some combination. The folks at USA Gymnastics not only get to make the rules, they get to ignore them altogether when they want to as in the case of Kim Kelly.

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