Has Mckenzie Wofford quit gymnastics?

No less then 7 people today have searched my blog with some form of the wording below.

A rumor no less but an interesting one at that.

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40 Responses to “Has Mckenzie Wofford quit gymnastics?”

  1. exgymgurll Says:

    shes awesome… is she valeri’s or yevgeny’s ??? And um wouldnt have anything to do with Nastia’s bad work ethic??? Setting a bad example or feeling like Hong/ Bross/ Liukin are A team and she’s being shoved aside… sometimes I feel like WOGA thinks they are the national team training ctr

  2. oldgymnast11 Says:

    No, McKenzie was upset because the last training camp she went to, she was sick. When Martha pushed her really hard, Valeri backed her up (and Valeri is her coach), so she was upset that he didn’t stand up for her when she wasn’t feeling well.
    She has tried another gym in the area that is awful because her good friends used to go there (one because her family owns the gym).
    The gym has been awful for a long time, 14 coaches in like 3 years because the owners are crazy, and recently they got rid of a guy who did a reasonable job on bars and traded him for one the lady coach could get along with.
    The lady does a good job for the most part, and the only kids doing release skills on bars are the ones that came that way (remember Jessie Jordan?).
    She is making a big mistake if she does, because Valeri is in charge of the jrs, and has done a lot for that kid. So, leaving his group because she didn’t like that Martha was pushing her only tells both Martha and Valeri that she doesn’t want to do what she needs to do when it is time to step up and that she will play things her way instead of just following the rules.
    There is another gym in the area (Texas Dreams) that is run by Kim Zmeskal, and if she went there, at least she would have Kim’s name to back her up, which would help out her political situation, and they have some national team members already so she would have kids her level to work with.

    There are a few other very good gyms in the area (Eagles Wings and Metroplex) that have kids doing well (the first one has one of the best developmental kids in the nation who was developed by the lady who is still coaching her and Rebecca Bross’s first WOGA coach, and the second has a few Texas Dreams coaches there now and a good reputation for good gymnastics)
    So, whatever, if you want the scoop, tat i what I know so far. She would do best to stay where she is (I am under the impression her parents told her they would leave the decision up to her), or pick a reputable gym instead of just going where her friends at school want her to go…

    • WOW!!!!! Says:

      OMG, I don’t know Mckenzie, but I do know that under no circumstances should you stay at any gym where you are unhappy, or feel you can’t trust the person that is suppose to look out for you…… That is a recipe for disaster!!!!! It sounds like Valeri threw Mckenzie under the bus. Mckenzie, I hope you are not reading oldgymnast11’s comments, but just in case you are, I wish you the best and good luck wherever you end up!!!!!!

  3. oldgymnast11 Says:

    Ok, I am reading my last post and it isn’t clear.
    McKenzie was upest Valeri sided with Martha and not with McKenzie at the camp.
    The gym is awful because of lack of consistency, the integrity of the owners, and other debatable issues. She is thinking of going there because of her 2 closest friends, one of those friends is the daughter of the owner of the new gym (McKenzie’s family does not own the gym).

  4. Tammy Baker Says:

    Heard she left training camp and is now at Zenith and will do level 10.

    • oldgymnast11 Says:

      She spent a couple of days at Zenith but has not made a choice.
      Zenith would be the worst choice of all given their history and lack of ability it seems to keep kids at a high level.
      Daughter is a perfect example. The owners couldn’t even help their own kid when she wanted to do elite. She had a lot of potential and was a really small kid when she qualified, but with the revolving door of coaches, no one took care of her, and when the new lady came in, she said the kid wasn’t for gymnastics and the owner took her own kid out- sold her out to someone she didn’t really know just to make the new coach happy, even though it meant throwing her own kid and kid’s dreams under the bus…

  5. gymtruthteller Says:

    Thanks for all the comments. This is an interesting situation. I have heard that Valeri can be pretty tough and while I am sure Mckenzie being pushed is not so much a bad thing if the kid was sick Marta and Valeri should have realized it. She is a child not an adult.

    If Bela had pulled something like this there would be an uproar. Amazes me what Valeri gets away with and how nothing is said about it. Add this to what happened to Vanessa and maybe Woga isn’t the best place for McKenzie or any gymnast for that matter.

  6. exgymgurll Says:

    WOW and wow…this is where it would make sense for them to have an athlete rep on hand at training camps someone actually retired and not a coach…like a Brandy Johnson or someone for the athletes to talk to and advocate for….Imagine if she had ended up hospitalized in Houston for dehydration or worse, the flu pneumonia with over exertion can become much more serious…. and you’re right… Bela would be villified…

  7. gymtruthteller Says:

    If I was a parent I think Valeri would have a cop at his door for child abuse and then my kid would be training at another gym. Valeri had control and it sounds like he blew it.

  8. Mercedes Says:

    She got very sick at camp. They knew she was running a fever and had nonstop diarrhea (which the trainer saw with her own eyes). This lasted the whole camp And she was still sick when she got home, so she went to the dr and had lost 4 pounds and was dehydrated….how can anyone push through that???? Her family wants her to take time to decide what to do….

  9. exgymgurll Says:

    The thing is the parents probably give the coaches power of attorney or medical decision making so their kids can go to those camps. Interesting that she wasn’t in the PR videos …. she should go to Kim Zmeskal if she wants to keep doing elite. Huge loss to the US on bars, or a huge gain for the NCAA either way I hope she has a happy life

  10. gymtruthteller Says:

    There is no way in hell my child would be making decisions like this. My kid I have control over. This sounds ridiculous to me.

    I have never had a dream like this so I guess giving it up would be tough but the welfare of a child is more important.

    I hope it works out.

  11. exgymgurll Says:

    Why wasn’t a doctor called in??? Even in the military doctors can sit soldiers out if they are too sick or injured… this is BS, a trainer can’t make these determinations a doctor should have. Why is it every time you think the Karolyis and the USAG have changed their ways something like this comes up? If this happened as stated its negligence at best child abuse at worst…

  12. oldgymnast11 Says:

    Ok, so wait. All the comments about Valeri being so awful are not true.
    I worked for the gym for almost 7 years and loved every minute of it.
    The gym is not awful and hard, and Valeri is not either. He is very technical and expects the kids to work hard. That is it. No abuse or any other such thing.
    Beyond that, kids get sick every day. She was not at death’s door, she was just sick, and when she made the decision to go to camp anyway, she knew she would have to try her best.
    Shannon Miller competed with a torn ab, Kerri Strug with a bad sprain, countless kids with stress fractures (Betty Okino had them in her back during the Olympics I believe), and in the end, you are competing against kids like that. So, when it comes time to bring a team somewhere, we will most likely bring the kids we believe will get the job done. We want team USA to be the best and do well, but in order for that to happen, the people competing need to behave like professional athletes, not small kids who don’t know what to do.
    Either way, there was no abuse going on, and there is none going on at WOGA either. It is competitive, but the coaches are fair and work really hard to be good at their job and do everything they can to help the athletes succeed.
    It is always easy to villify the people who win a lot

    • exgymnast Says:

      Oldgymnast11, are you out of your mind. All those instances you mention above about Shannon Miller, Kerri Strug, and Betty Okino are all cases of abuse at its worst. You shouldn’t let or expect those kids to compete when they have those types of injuries. All of you should be put in jail. Especially the person that wrote that worthless dribble. And by the way, they are kids (teenagers). I don’t believe you people.

      • oldgymnast11 Says:

        If you think I am the only one who thought it was acceptable for Kerri Strug to compete on her ankle at the Olympics (I should go to jail for thinking that:-)…), you might want to say something to half the country that agrees with me.
        She is on countless Greatest sports moments videos, is shown constantly on commercials for the Olympics and was cheered on by our country when she did it )still is being heralded for it today).
        I don’t disagree that it is hard, but in the end you can’t have it both ways. You can choose to have an easy sport with no difficulties and nothing to overcome beyond a rip on bars (think about it, by your idea, a kid who rips skin off of her hands and is expected to practice on it anyway is just as abusive, it is just more commonly accepted) and the kids come away happy enough. Nothing really life changing, or the kids can learn about courage, hard work and overcoming difficulties while they are still young and resilient. They can set themselves up for life financially (pay for their own college), have opportunities for the rest of their lives and learn the value in dreaming with their eyes open (doing something about it, vs hoping for something good to come their way).
        elsewhere in the world, the kids are expected to behave like professionals, and if we only expect the easy way, they will not be competitive, which will certainly not lead to good self esteem or help them to believe they are able to accomplish the dreams they set their eyes on. We expect a half job and get a kid who can only give a good performance the days they are feeling well and ready (hit and miss).
        How is it fair that little boys are expected to step up, but girls are not good enough or strong enough?
        I for one, believe in the dreams of the kid and in being honest with them when they ask what it takes. So they have the ability to have the dream they want instead of telling them something that isn’t true and will only help them give up everything and find they got nothing in return…

    • exgymgurll Says:

      Old gymnast said “They can set themselves up for life financially (pay for their own college), have opportunities for the rest of their lives and learn the value in dreaming with their eyes open (doing something about it, vs hoping for something good to come their way).”

      OR they can be Vanessa Atler, Kristie Phillips, Jana Bieger, or Christy Hienrich

      For every great Junior for every great Senior International elite that “makes it” there are hundreds that never really make a dime off of being an elite gymnast…gymnastics is not a career or a way to make $$ for very long, I doubt if Nastia or Shawn even makes what the average NFL player makes in a year nor does their “celebrity” have much longevity… case in point Carly Patterson

    • exgymnast Says:

      Oldgymnast11, I agree with the half of the country that don’t agree with you. These kids don’t have to risk permanent damage to their body for a competition that may be their last performance. I’m not saying don’t work out on a rip from bars or even go back to training after resting from a sprang wrist, ankle or whatever. I am saying that it’s not necessary to make such a drastic sacrifice such as Kerri Strugs, Shannon Miller and Betty Okino for anyone, especially people that would spit in their faces for feeling under the weather.
      There is not one thing about damaging your body that is professional.
      As far as other countries expecting the kids to make these sacrifices they are no better than you guys. There was a time when the US wasn’t as extreme as others countries, but since we have so many coaches now from other countries the US has adapted to that brutal mentality of win at any cost attitude. So what if the kid may never walk again or use that arm again, they need them to go out and win that medal for the US. It’s a good thing that gymnasts are abundant in this country or they would resort to paying families for their kids like the other countries.
      As far as being successfully and making lots of money, there are lots of people living that dream without an extreme sport in their past to boost their self esteem. You can get that from good parental support.

      • oldgymnast11 Says:

        I can see what you are both saying, but you need to consider the people you are using as examples. Vanessa Atler is still coaching, Kristie Phillips is on the board to decide who goes to competitions and judges TOPS, and Jana Bieger is alo coaching and still working out. Krisite seems to love working with USA gymnastics (I have spent time with her out at a TOPS camp), and Jana still loves gymnastics as well (spent time with her last year in a gymnastics situation). So, the experience couldn’t have been too terrible if they are choosing as adults to still spend time in the sport in other ways. Christie Henrich died of various eating disorders which led to multiple organ failure, not working out when she was sick (isn’t that what we are really discussing here?)
        As far as being forgotten, Carly has an album out (she wouldn’t have had the opportunity to make one if she hadn’t have been successful as a gymnast first). So, she is still capitalizing in other ways and will continue to reap the benefits of that for a long time to come.
        exgymnast- in the end, this post was about a kid who was pushed to workout when she wasn’t feeling well. If you think it is acceptable to work out when you have a rip (I didn’t feel well about having the skin on my hand ripped open and bleeding and working out on bars swinging on that bloody hole in my hand), what makes it so much harder to do it when you are sick?
        The professional part is not having the ability to workout broken or injured, but the ability to push through adversity when it comes and show you are able to be counted on to do your part for the team as a group whether you are feeling like it or not.
        Do you also think we should not make the kids do homework for hours a night when they are tired or don’t feel well? What about kids who are slow. Should they be exempted from taking the assessments to pass from one grade to another? It is still doing something that takes a lot of discipline and pulling through when things get hard, but if we hope to produce kids smart enough to be able to survive in the world with kids like China studying harder ad working more, we believe it is what they have to do.
        As far as the brutal mentality goes, you should go sit and watch for a month or a year and just SEE what it is that goes on. Workouts are quiet and peaceful and it is not win at any cost. It is work hard and do something while you are here, and if you happen to make a team competing for the US, we expect you to do what you do every day in the gym as normal. Think straight and normally and stay calm. Instead of letting them think out of control thinking is normal, they are to do what they know how regardless of nerves or not feeling your best.
        Someday when they are adults, they will have to go to work when they are not feeling well and do the best they can and I am assuming parents and adults around kids are hoping to help prepare them for the things they will encounter as adults when they are living on their own (If that isn’t the plan, why do we send them to school for so many hours a day?)
        Just like any other good school (Harvard, Yale, UCLA, etc…), the kids are expected to behave in a disciplined manner (we work in a gymnastics school), an the professors (coaches) can be friendly and kind and fair, but still expect the kids to get stuff done, not cripple them by making them unable to perform when they are unhappy.

    • exgymnast Says:

      Oldgymnast11 said, “I can see what you are both saying, but you need to consider the people you are using as examples.”
      My comment to that: I used the exact people that you referenced to in your post (Kerri Strugs, Shannon Miller, and Betty Okino). As far as Carly Patterson goes, I don’t believe that she is a has been. Furthermore, I hope she can continue to capitalize from her gymnastics fame. I hope all of them will. However, that’s not the point; the point is the abusive behavior of the people in charge of the kids in this sport.

      You are just grabbing at straws with that education reference. Education will never harm or cause those kids bodily injury. It is one of the best foundations for discipline, focus, and dedication. Besides, this is not about school or a rip that will heal just fine. This is about training & competing on injures that can potentially harm the body permanently. Furthermore, if you are running a temperature, you body is telling you that it needs a break. I’m all for kids being disciplined, dedicated and focused. However, you don’t have to pound a stress fracture, compete with torn abs, or sprang ankles to accomplish that.

      Oldgymnast11 said, “Someday when they are adults, they will have to go to work when they are not feeling well and do the best they can”
      My comment to that: You are allowed sick days even at work to rest your body so you can resume your daily duties. My job, in which I have worked on for 25 years, have never trashed me for taking a sick day when I’m not feeling well and neither have my children’s school. Resting your body when you are feeling bad does not indicate that you lack discipline, focus, or dedication, it simply means that your body needs to rest and heal. Furthermore don’t you people have alternates for those occasions when the kids are injured or ill? If you don’t have enough then maybe you should rethink the number of alternates you have on hand instead of expecting someone torn, pulled, or broken to compete.

      Oldgymnast11 said, “not cripple them by making them unable to perform when they are unhappy”
      My comment to that: Just cripple them physically, right? Children have plenty in their lives that teach them self-discipline, pushing through, and focus (i.e. school as mentioned above). If not, I blame the parents. The training for this sport is very taxing on their bodies, and the fact that they continue to show up and train hours upon hours prove their dedication. They don’t have to further abuse their bodies by competing with serious injuries to prove that.

      So, I’m happy to say that you still haven’t convinced me that competing on broken limbs and torn body parts promotes discipline, focus, or dedication. It promotes bad choices that can potential lead to permanent damage. FYI, I happen to know some people that have survived the sport and their bodies still suffer from some of that so-called discipline, focus, and dedication you are promoting.

      Good Luck with your continued promotion of abuse. I know there are probably others out there who believe that dribble you are saying, but I’m not one of them. Have a blessed day!!!!!

      Oh, by the way, I still love the sport at the ripe old age of ……..over 50, It’s just the lack of concern for these children’s bodies and brutal politics that I don’t like.

      Signing off now, catch on the next topic because this one is officially boring!!!!! I have to admit though that I am wondering what straw you will grab at next! You are hilarious and you keep me laughing!!!

      • oldgymnast11 Says:

        exgymnast- I have been very polite to you, even though you have strayed from topic and appear to be uneducated.
        In return, you find ways to attempt to be offensive (read my prior posts and see if I have said anything even remotely offensive directed at anyone here, and then read yours- calling someone’s post dribble and being rude?). This is part of what makes me think you are most likely uneducated, that and that you have been off topic for a while.
        Read above the things the post started out talking about as abuse…
        We are having this conversation because people said al these nasty things and how they would never in H… send their kids to Valeri because he made the kid work out sick!
        I am not sure what part of that is brutal, but you have your very own set of rules to dictate what is harsh and what is not.
        I have calluses on my hands from working out with rips on a daily basis 18 years after the fact, but have no scars or lasting effects from working out when I was feeling sick.
        No where did it say she was broken or even injured. She was sick, and Yes, I think it is harsher physically to work out with a rip (although you easily seem to condone that…) I feel as if you are the one promoting the idea of abuse, just the abuse YOU think is acceptable, and only by standards you can’t really articulate in a way that follows any real rules.
        Second, you did not use the examples I used. You used Kristie Phillips, a kid who couldn’t keep track of healthy eating habits, Vanessa and Jana.
        THEN, you say have a blessed day?
        You are not a Christian, or if you are, you are the kind that makes the unbelieving world find the idea of Christianity so unbelievable.
        Maybe if you would behave and speak with respect and class (the respect and class your parents were supposed to teach you since you didn’t learn it in the gym yourself?), it would be easier to believe you believed what you were saying.
        Either way, i is an easy out to say you are bored and are done (so you could get the last word in:-)…). We will see if you are really bored by whether you reply to this, or whether you are a narcissist who just wants to get the last word in and run away.
        As far as grabbing at straws, I honestly believe when someone brings a kid to me to teach gymnastics to, they are bringing them to a gymnastics SCHOOL to be educated.
        I am to teach them skills, hard work, disciple, respect, and how to enjoy all of those things. It is not some silly willy nilly time to just do whatever they feel like doing, and as such, I expect them to behave as they would in school, and I behave professionally as a teacher as well.
        There is no “grabbing at straws”, as my rules are very straight forward. If you are too sick to be able to try, you are too sick to be there (same as McKenzie- if she was too sick to be at camp, she should have GONE HOME. There are phones at the ranch, and certain cell phones will work out there- not many, but you are completely able to get ahold of someone if you need to- even by text on any network. If she was no so bad to be there, she should get up and do what she was invited there to do). If you are able to be at practice or wherever, you are there to do something.
        If she is not old enough to behave like a professional athlete, then she is not mature enough or old enough to represent our country in an international meet.
        I imagine there is more pressure in standing in front of thousands of people and performing while wearing the name of your country than there is in having to do your best when you are sick.
        You did read the initial post to see what we are all so concerned about didn’t you????

    • exgymnast Says:

      Oldgymnast11 said: “No where did it say she was broken or even injured. She was sick, and Yes, I think it is harsher physically to work out with a rip (although you easily seem to condone that…) I feel as if you are the one promoting the idea of abuse, just the abuse YOU think is acceptable, and only by standards you can’t really articulate in a way that follows any real rules. “

      My comment to that: Nowhere did you say McKenzie was broken or injured. I understand that she was sick and running a fever. Her coach should have backed her up. However, you did reference gymnast that were broken and injured; those are the people that I was referring to when I made my Initial post. Furthermore, I don’t condone working out hurt in any circumstance. I was simply stating that I don’t think a rip is as bad as the examples you gave when you referenced Shannon Miller, Kerri Strugs, and Betty Okino, I was not comparing rips to Mckenzie running a fever or being sick. However, every one of those examples you gave was abusive and brutal. Don’t throw out examples to promote your point if you are going to then call others uneducated when they comment on them.

      Oldgymnast11 said: “I have calluses on my hands from working out with rips on a daily basis 18 years after the fact, but have no scars or lasting effects from working out when I was feeling sick.”

      My comment to that: I to had large calluses on my hands from rips and so did my daughter, but neither one of us have lasting effects from that, both of our hands are smooth with no hint of damage. When my daughter fractured her arm and wasn’t able to do bars for just a few months, her hands were almost completely clear of calluses. I don’t know what kind of hands you have that calluses last for 18 years, but that’s not the case for us. Sorry for you lingering calluses.

      Oldgymnast said: “Second, you did not use the examples I used. You used Kristie Phillips, a kid who couldn’t keep track of healthy eating habits, Vanessa and Jana.
      THEN, you say have a blessed day?”

      My comment to that: Now who’s uneducated? Not once did I mention Kristie Phillips, Vanessa or Jana. You are getting my post mixed up with someone else’s. I suggest you go back and check my initial post. Where you that angry that you just didn’t bother to check your facts before responding?

      Oldgymnast 11 said: “You are not a Christian, or if you are, you are the kind that makes the unbelieving world find the idea of Christianity so unbelievable.”
      “Maybe if you would behave and speak with respect and class (the respect and class your parents were supposed to teach you since you didn’t learn it in the gym yourself?), it would be easier to believe you believed what you were saying.”

      My comment to that: I don’t recall saying that I was a Christian, I simply said God Bless You and I meant that. I didn’t know it would offend you; forgive me for asking God to bless you. Furthermore, my behavior is just fine, and as far as the respect goes, when it’s warranted, I am very accommodating. Oh, I almost forgot, I do believe what I’m saying, because it’s true!

      Oldgymnast11 said: “Either way, i is an easy out to say you are bored and are done (so you could get the last word in:-)…). We will see if you are really bored by whether you reply to this, or whether you are a narcissist who just wants to get the last word in and run away.”

      My comment to that: I wasn’t looking for an easy out or trying to get the last word, I was simply getting boring, and now I know why. You were confused!!!! You incorporated someone else’s post into my comment. If you go back and read my initial post, you will see that I commented on the abuse of the gymnast you referenced (Shannon, Kerri, and Betty) and I don’t believe I ever mentioned Mckenzie. Also, someone else mentioned Kristie, Vanessa, and Jana, check the facts above. Oh by the way, No narcissism going on here, I’m sure you have that covered. You know what though; I still think you are hilarious!!!!!! And I can always use a good laugh. Thanks!

      Oldgymnast11 said: “You did read the initial post to see what we are all so concerned about didn’t you???? “

      My comment to that: Yes, I did read the initial post. Did you read my initial post? I commented on the gymnast you referenced to in the post that I replied to. Now you are upset with me for commenting on the abused gymnast that you introduced into the equation. If you didn’t want anyone to comment on that, you should not have mentioned it.

      Oldgymnast11 said: “If you are too sick to be able to try, you are too sick to be there (same as McKenzie- if she was too sick to be at camp, she should have GONE HOME. “

      My comment to that: Once again, I understand that McKenzie was sick and running a fever. Her coach should have backed her up. He was the person in charge of her at the time. As that person in charge, he should have contacted her parents or made sure she saw a doctor. Instead, Valeri threw her under the bus.

  13. exgymgurll Says:

    Maybe she WENT to camp sick but that doesn’t mean she didnt get MORE ILL while there… someone should have been her advocate…or a Doctor should have looked at her if she was getting worse. Daycare, school and like I said even the military and some work places have rules about not coming in if you are ill. What if she makes everyone else at camp on the USAG team sick??? Don’t they care about that??? Im not villifying Valeri or anyone else, Im saying its a pattern of bad judgement all around

  14. Mercedes Says:

    She didn’t go to camp sick….she got sick there.

  15. gymtruthteller Says:

    Sorry oldgymnast but if Valeri was in control when she got sick he is abusive. I don’t discount your time at Woga but if I send my kid to camp and leave the coaches in control and they ignore my sick kid then I blame the coaches.

    Shawn was injured at the most recent camp (injured when she went) and her coach put his foot down on how she should be trained. That is what a real coach does.

    • oldgymnast11 Says:

      Hey!
      I don’t see a place to contact you, but I have a question. Is there any chance you would be able to contact me via the e mail address you have for me?
      Thanks:-)

  16. ash Says:

    The only person who knows how badly the child was feeling and how unable she was to practice is the child herself. If it was that bad, she should be in a doctor’s care. Her parents should also have been on the phone with a doctor. Perhaps there was medicine or something she could have been given to help her feel well enough to practice. And if it wasn’t bad enough to warrant a doctor’s care, then yes, sometimes it’s good to try to try to push through illness.

  17. dd Says:

    She went to the doctor when she got back home. It was obviously obvious to her parents she was sick. Likuin is a douche bag. Just because he is fun to talk to when he gets hammered doesn’t mean what happened is fair. Some of you would make excuses for the devil if he drank with you at Nationals.

  18. dd Says:

    They are bad mouthing you at gymgossip. So funny.

  19. gymtruthteller Says:

    Does GGMB like anyone? I have better things to care about the if the Nastia fanatics are stalking this blog.lol

    I am not forcing anyone to read here. I got some search comments. I asked a question. Now I am off to get hammered. My weekend is here. (yes on a Tuesday)

  20. dd Says:

    You could always send them flowers to get them to like you? It worked for Nastia and Alicia:)

    Have a nice weekend.

  21. Stacey Says:

    She’s gone from the WOGA Classic preview page.

  22. Cookie Says:

    GGMB (well really Abomb and his cronies) are a bunch of narcissists and can’t stand if anyone else gets a scoop before his secret sources get there first. (clearly if someone else breaks a story they’re automatically wrong)

  23. Scout Says:

    They’re crying about you over at IG.

  24. gymtruthteller Says:

    IG crying? Shocking:) They have a reason to dislike me. I call them out but when a board is as full of hypocrites as they are. They deserve what they get especially the moderators. Martina is the worst. Several of them have sent me spam to porno so playing innocent is such a fraud.

    My fave is the stuff Nastiafan wrote on GGMB. He posted at my blog using 3 different names. (IP address peeps) and yet he is telling them a whole different story. Whatever.

    the funny thing is I have laid off of them for awhile and I have done this by choice (even though that thread on Vanessa Atler I started a blog on but chose to not run it.

    GGMB has issues but at least they tell you up front. Agree with me or you don’t get to stay a member. The hypocrisy at IG is astounding. They claim free speech but ban anyone that doesn’t agree with Martina’s group of friends. Why do you think Nastia is always praised there? She ie perfect and if you don’t agree they ban you.

    There I’ve gone and complained anyway. Don’t drink and blog peeps.

  25. Exgymgurl Says:

    She’s listed on the USA gymnastics site as being with zenith now but still on jr nationals

  26. jaquie Says:

    you guys should go to her fan page on fb it’s soo cool i love her soooo much!!!!!

  27. notagymmom Says:

    I had not seen this and i can tell you Valeri and Woga have one philosphy and that is make it or break it that is what he will do if a school treated students this way if a parent treated their children this way CPS would be at their door taking the kids away. The unbeleiveabnle fact is young girls under the age to make their own decisions are coerced to wrok out and compete with serious illness or onjuries and the parents go along with it in fear their kid will not get rained see if you speak up your kid is ignored at the gym if you don’t your kid is pushed beyond what is healthy the number of back injuries is unbeleivabnle – no brekas no time off no stay at home with a fever – there is school missed becuase you must train. The blind eye oldgymnast chooses is from years of WOGA brainwashing. Thanks goodness that young girl left …poor izzy is still there being called the fat gymnast by valeri-

  28. Gymnast fan Says:

    You guys are being a bit harsh and quite frankly, ignorant in regards to Valeri. If you watch him very closely, the one word that I use to describe him is “focused.” Whether it’s in training, warm ups, competition, lectures, interview, at the bar(lol), he’s focused. He’s all business. As a coach, you know your athletes. You know the ones who give 120% and the ones who have a tendency to be lazy. As spectators we don’t know what goes on behind the scenes. But one thing I do notice about Valeri is that he is very supportive. When his kids hit, it’s a nod, followed by a hug, then the arm goes around the shoulder and he comments on the routine. Same goes when a kid falls. He’s obviously frustrated, but you can tell he tries not to allow the athlete to see. They get a hug or pat on the back when they hit as well as when they fall. I use to think Valeri was a drill sergeant too until I started actually paying closer attention.

    It’s unfortunate that Wofford was sick at camp. But in any sporting arena of that caliber, the mindset is…those are the days that define you. If you can push through the tough days when you feel like garbage, you can push through anything. Not sure that she was purposely put in a pernicious situation per say. A lot of times emotions can cause kids to feel that their coaches don’t care and when you feel like a 2nd class citizen (due to past Woga stars) you see your coaches pushing you as not approving of you, as opposed to them pushing you so you can reach that same level of excellence. It’s important to keep in mind that Mckensie bounced from diff. gyms before moving to Woga. Kids move to gyms because they want to reach a higher level, but don’t always realize what it truly takes to get there. Woga certainly has their standards and for a kid who has bounced around and after only a year at Woga, is already having issues…it’s hard for me to say that is the coaching. I could see if you had another case study of a similar scenario at Woga, but all I’ve ever heard and seen was a pursuit of excellence and laser beam focused. It’s not for everyone however.

  29. Papa Says:

    I wonder if Valeri would have caught her falling from the bars with the product of diarrhea running out of her leos?

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